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I agree. I frankly think everybody is free to believe whatever they want to believe. The chasing people with the bible DRob-style is where it gets sketchy, tbh.
Tbh if every Christian was like AFBlue or NASpurs I wouldn't ever say anything about Christianity (positive or negative). As much as I disagree with their views they don't seem like the type who want to shove their views down other people's throats or use their views to create laws in this country which is the only real issue I have.
I agree. I frankly think everybody is free to believe whatever they want to believe. The chasing people with the bible DRob-style is where it gets sketchy, tbh.
If you wanna blame someone for that, don't blame us. Blame the Republican party for hijacking Christianity and using it to promote a phobic agenda with oppressive laws.
Talking about assholes... I wonder if Cobra thinks he's going to heaven or ...
Neither.
My beliefs aren't the same, yet I believe our spirit lives on.
Got my answer because this is at the end. this thread has grown rather large, and haven't read any of the rest since before I went to work yesterday. May stop reading this one.
This is where I stand...and it's a big reason why I don't get involved in internet debates about my faith. My faith is based out of my own personal experiences...experiences I will share if someone wants to sit down and listen earnestly. If I'm going to talk about my personal experiences with God, it's going to be with someone I've already established some relational ground with. I figured out years ago that it was fruitless to chase people around and throw the Bible at them. Honestly, I'm pretty ashamed of the "Christian" establishments of today and how they operate.
Christians today would do themselves a huge favor if they got out of politics, off of national TV, quit doing huge speaking events, etc. Get rid of the show and start helping people who really need help. Can you imagine the good that could be done in local communities in this country with all the money that is paid to churches every week?
IMO holding a deistic or pantheistic position is fine, as long as you keep it to yourself. Holding theistic positions (Christian, Islamic etc) is the real problem with lesser educated parts of our society.
You can feel spiritual, you can be overwhelmed by the beauty and complexity of the world you live in, you may have had personal experiences that heighten your spirituality .... but none of that proves that Genesis or Noah's Ark or the Virgin Birth is true. That's the biggest mistake most people make: they feel spiritual when they view the Milky Way through a telescope and start believing scripture that is demonstrably false.
I personally have no need to believe in any supernatural en y to appreciate the magnificent universe that we live in, or to know the difference between what's right and what's wrong. As the saying goes: left to themselves, good men do good things and evil men do evil things; if you want a good man to do evil things, that takes (theistic) religion.
How am I a hypocrite? I am neither a "climategate scientist", nor have I ever skirted a FOI law.
LOL butthurt at getting called on being a dishonest piece of .
May as well. I don't see much new here.
In the end...what does it matter? Everyone on this planet will live (or sleepwalk) and die and never get to prove or disprove the existence of ....what people label as God, love, Allah, Budda, etc...
So what does it matter?
What does matter is to die to each moment and then let it go and die to the next moment completely....
This is one way to truly live. Nothing else will matter if we are able to consistently practice this simple task.
My favorite was a guy who faxed a prayer to his house in the California fires.
His house didn't burn, but all of his neighbors' did.
This is held up, to my understanding, as a shining example of the power of prayer.
Glaringly obvious is that all the other neighbors who prayed for their house not to burn were ignored.
It is sad to me that people can ignore the glaringly obvious when it suits them.
That is how a weak mind deals with cognitive bias.
The fact that he views God as all-powerful and loving is irreconcilable with the suffering of innocents.
Since he can't go back on his views of God, the only choice is to blame the people to whom bad things happen.
Robertson is a real piece of work. He is the kind of person that Jesus probably railed against when he was alive, something I find deliciously ironic.
What matters is that people like RandomGuy can knock down their own strawmen so that they can go on living with their false sense of superiority. At the end of the day, he is just a small man that counts other people's money. He's no better than the people that he openly mocks for not having his "correct thinking". What he needs is something called humility.
Why did Jesus call himself the Son of Man?
he had a habit of self-humbling
Lol butthurt.
What strawman?
Be specific or STFU, sophist.
Hey, it's FuzzyLumpkins
Seems odd, but I remember there being a website dedicated to this very question.
Thank you google!
http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/
wtf per the usual
why does God usually only build big, pretty churches on the good sides of town?
Like Willy Sutton said, "because that's where the money is"
And the multi-$M "parsonages" are tax free. Benny Hinn had one worth $10M overlooking the Pacific.
You're underrating the entertainment value. 9 pages and going strong.
Obviously it's to suck the money from the rich and funnel it to the poor. Socialist god and his wealth redistribution!
I don't believe in god, but wtf is the point of this thread?
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