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    If RJ and Biedrins contract are the same why would GSW want mcdyess's contract if there main goal is to save $?
    Lots of people think that Dice's contract contains magical powers. Even if not needed to make the numbers work in a deal, including it will save money for both the Spurs and the other team. Magically...

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    Lots of people think that Dice's contract contains magical powers. Even if not needed to make the numbers work in a deal, including it will save money for both the Spurs and the other team. Magically...
    You mean it won't do my laundry????

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    I like how people here think that every team in this league sees RJ as a detriment. It just isn't true, sure his performance the last two years hasn't been great, but he's hardly even a scoring option on the Spurs, he doesn't have a pass first guard in TP like he did in Jason Kidd.

    RJ can thrive in the right system, because he's still athletic, he has the 3pt shot.
    I'm pretty sure every team in this league sees RJ with 3 years and $30 million due as a detriment.

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    Credible source alert:

    WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
    Spurs, Pistons keeping close check on Chris Kaman, but Clippers won't move him until resolution on restricted free agent DeAndre Jordan.

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    Also, Clippers the worst team to trade with. Nothing done even if they accept. They can back out like they did before when they agreed to trade the Spurs Camby.

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    Not sure why the Clips would do a deal unless it included much more than RJ.

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    All in all, this would be a great deal for the Spurs even if it meant they had to give up Blair. To get a competent big for RJ (even though I have soured a little on Kaman in recent years, he is still solid when healthy) is great, but to go from RJ to competent big with expiring contract

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    By "much more", I mean at LEAST Tiago, but probably Parker. But who knows, Sterling is still in charge.

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    Not sure why the Clips would do a deal unless it included much more than RJ.
    Blair or Mcdyess?

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    At this point, I'd take an RJ-for-Biedrins swap. A shot-blocking big for an underperforming SF? Yeah, that would work. Biedrins isn't a world-beater, but at least he would be a serviceable big - just don't put him on the FT line.

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    Just read that Butler suppose to visit San Antonio Tue after being in chicago and Clipper land today.

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    Just read that Butler suppose to visit San Antonio Tue after being in chicago and Clipper land today.
    Supposedly, he loved his visit with the Clippers. I think the chances are slim at this point that we land Butler.

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    JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
    @ Meeting's still on.Stay tuned. RT @saspurs101 any caron butler buzz? Anything on his meeting today?

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    thanx for the update brazil

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    Free agent small forward Caron Butler's meeting with the the Los Angeles Clippers went so well Monday night, the two sides decided to talk again on Tuesday morning, according to Butler's agent.

    "Caron was really happy with the meeting," Butler's agent Raymond Brothers said. "We were really impressed by (general manager) Neil Olshey and (coach) Vinny Del Negro. I think they've got a good young team that can win. Caron had a really good feeling about it."


    http://www.iamagm.com/news/2011/12/0...medium=twitter

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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    Butler's agent forgot that they told ESPN that Butler was going to stay in LA. Their crawler reported on his schedule that he was visiting LA Monday and Tuesday and SA on Tuesday as well. This isn't really a surprise. I wonder what they're trying to get out of lying about it.

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    The Mavericks have been offering their own free agents, such as Caron Butler and J.J. Barea, one-year deals to preserve maximum financial flexibility, knowing full well that both players are thus locks to leave because they'll get more lucrative offers elsewhere.
    http://www.iamagm.com/news/2011/12/0...medium=twitter

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    @realtuffjuice Caron Butler
    Just met with Spurs great visit first class all the way....

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    Caron Butler's choices: SA or CHI for the $5 million midlevel exception, or NJ or LA Clippers for about $7 mill/year...

    per Broussard on twitter

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    Caron Butler's choices: SA or CHI for the $5 million midlevel exception, or NJ or LA Clippers for about $7 mill/year...

    per Broussard on twitter
    then he will likely go to the Clips ... they have much potential and are giving him more money ...

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    Makes me feel good about RJ off the roster before opening day.

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    Caron Butler's choices: SA or CHI for the $5 million midlevel exception, or NJ or LA Clippers for about $7 mill/year...

    per Broussard on twitter
    $5M MLE is for teams under the tax, I believe. That has to mean it's a sign that the Spurs have told Caron a deal is in place to get them under the tax. *crosses fingers for RJ*

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    then he will likely go to the Clips ... they have much potential and are giving him more money ...
    If it's for money...he will go to the Clips. If he wants to win...Chicago is easily the best choice.

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    Caron Butler's choices: SA or CHI for the $5 million midlevel exception, or NJ or LA Clippers for about $7 mill/year...

    per Broussard on twitter
    Then he's gone to the Clips for sure. Spurs can forget about him.

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    Of course, the Spurs could provide him with, not only an opportunity to win, but also the opportunity to "stick it" to the Mavs 4 times per year.

    Even with that, I just can't see how Butler could turn down the $7mil per year offer from the Clippers.

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