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What is your evidence Obama sold the guns?
Obama sells guns to mexican cartels and then talks in mexico how we need more gun control to stop american sold guns getting into mexico. classic mcgruber.
What is your evidence Obama sold the guns?
It sure didn't with the last president, and you cheered.
I'm only seeing one cheerleader right now.
I never supported this particular policy.
And make no mistake, you're still cheering.
quod erat demonstrandum
I believe yoni has a hair up his ass over nothing as usual.
i thought it was about fast cars and not guns?
Yes, I have been feeling left out a little.
You care? I'm touched!
Republicans' Phony Outrage at DEA Money Laundering Activities
The height of Republican hypocrisy is the phony outrage of Congressman Darryl Issa at the DEA's money laundering stings, particularly in Mexico. These stings are as old as the hills and well-publicized. (Issa's absurd letter to AG Eric Holder is here.) Even Fox News says he's missed the beat on this one.
The Justice Department and the State Department acknowledged the laundering this week. The DEA issued this statement earlier this week confirming it.
Why wouldn't they? DEA, the IRS and Customs (now ICE) have been engaging in undercover laundering of proceeds for drug traffickers at least since Ronald Reagan was President. Republicans crowed about the stings then. [More...]
The money laundering statute expressly provides for stings. From the U.S. Attorney's Manual:
Section 1956(a)(3) relates to undercover operations where the financial transaction involves property represented to be proceeds of specified unlawful activity. The proceeds in § 1956(a)(3) cases are not actually derived from a real crime; they are undercover funds supplied by the Government. The representation must be made by or authorized by a Federal officer with authority to investigate or prosecute money laundering violations. The representation may also be made by another at the direction of or approval of a Federal officer.
The money laundering statute also provides for extra-territorial jurisdiction (see 1956(b)(2).
Here are the guidelines from the IRS Manual, Section 9.5.5.2.1.3 (08-27-2007)" le 18 USC §1956(a)(3), Sting Operations" and Section 9.4.8, Undercover Operations.
(On a related note, it was President Reagan, who in 1986, signed a "secret" National Security Decision Directive (#221) declaring that international drug trafficking was a matter of national security and authorizing the use of military personnel in foreign anti-drug campaigns.)
In 1980, there was Operation Swordfish, a drug and money laundering sting. As the DEA describes it:
The DEA set up a bogus money laundering corporation in suburban Miami Lakes that was called Dean International Investments, Inc. The DEA agents teamed up with a Cuban exile who had fallen on hard times and was willing to lure Colombian traffickers to the bogus bank. ...During the 18-month investigation, agents were able to gather enough evidence for a federal grand jury to indict 67 U.S. and Colombian citizens. At the conclusion of the operation, drug agents seized 100 kilos of cocaine, a quarter-million methaqualone pills, tons of marijuana, and $800,000 in cash, cars, land, and Miami bank accounts. Operation Swordfish was a significant attack on South Florida's flourishing drug trade.
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2011/12/7/12029/6361
Hey, Yoni, here's a great history of the St Ronnie and his politicized CIA fueling the drug business
The Warning in Gary Webb's Death
But Webb's suicide on the evening of Dec. 9, 2004, was also a tragic end for one man whose livelihood and reputation were destroyed by a phalanx of major newspapers - the New York Times, the Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times - serving as protectors of a corrupt power structure rather than as sources of honest information.
In reviewing the story again this year, I was struck by how Webb's Contra-cocaine experience was, in many ways, a precursor to the subsequent tragedy of the Iraq War.
In the 1980s, the CIA's analytical division was already showing signs of politicization, especially regarding President Ronald Reagan's beloved Contras and their war against Nicaragua's Sandinista government - and the U.S. press corps was already bending to the propaganda pressures of a right-wing Republican administration.
Looking back at CIA cables from the early-to-mid-1980s, you can already see the bias dripping from the analytical reports. Any drug accusation against the leftist Sandinistas was accepted without skepticism and usually with strong exaggeration, while the opposite occurred with evidence of Contra cocaine smuggling; then there was endless quibbling and smearing of sources.
So, to put these reports in anything close to an accurate focus, you would need special lenses to correct for all the politicized distortions. Yet, the U.S. news media, which itself was under intense pressure not to appear "liberal," worsened the Reagan administration's fun-house reflection of reality and attacked any dissident journalist who wouldn't go along.
Thus, Americans heard a lot about how the evil Sandinistas were trying to "poison" America's youth with cocaine, although there was not a single interception of a drug shipment from Nicaragua during the Sandinista reign, except for one planeload of cocaine that the United States flew into and out of Nicaraguan in a clumsy "sting" operation.
On the other hand, substantial evidence of Contra-related cocaine shipments out of Costa Rica and Honduras was kept from the American people with Reagan's Justice Department and CIA intervening to head off investigations and thus prevent embarrassing disclosures. The chief role of the big newspapers in this upside-down world was to heap ridicule on anyone who told the truth.
During that time frame of the early-to-mid-1980s, the patterns were set for CIA analysts to advance their careers (by giving the president what he wanted) and mainstream journalists to protect theirs (by accepting propaganda). By 2002-2003, these patterns had become deeply engrained, leaving almost no one to protect the American people from a new round of falsehoods - aimed at Iraq.
http://readersupportednews.org/opini...ry-webbs-death
wants to get caught. how poignant.
At the conclusion of the operation, drug agents seized 100 kilos of cocaine, a quarter-million methaqualone pills, tons of marijuana, and $800,000 in cash, cars, land, and Miami bank accounts.
ahhhhh....qualudes...
THAT was the good old days...
these are the good old days for somebody
Nice you believe our government being involved in arming a ruthless cartel that then murdered 300+ Mexicans is "nothing."
Yoni's ok with 5000 US military wasted in Iraq, but 300+ Mexicans, he wants to lynch the n!gga.
you having a hair up your ass is nothing. there's a subtle difference.
Except he said "over nothing."
semantics. more hairsplitting.
like I said, there's a subtle difference
You're right, there is a difference but, you +1'd Marzetti saying the 300+ deaths were nothing.
You're the one playing semantics and parsing what you've posted. Getting to be a habit.
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