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    It looks damn messy this...The NBA vetoing NO's deal.. but their explanation - "basketball reasons" makes a lot of sense. NO weren't even dumping their bad contracts along with CP3. Nor were they getting any draft picks or decent expirings. They were getting a moody Kardashian, and two defenseless players in Scola and Martin. No effing way can anyone spin and say that this was a deal in NO's favor.

    Everyone is looking at it and saying what a mess with the League Office intervening, but it was expected once the league got to own the Hornets. Demps has another day to wring out a better deal or else this goes kaput on his face and makes the Hornets even worse.

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    Stolen from downstairs:


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    Honestly, if I'm Stern, I let the trade go through but then demand no more trades until the team is sold. You can't undo a trade like that.

    If this were a fantasy league, I'd be asking for my money back.
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    But NO got . This is akin to a fantasy trade between the first place team and last place team that makes enough sense talent wise not to be vetoed, but serves no purpose but to let the first place team fine tune their team.
    Except it would have been vetoed by the league.

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    To answer the people above, it looks as though the rest of the league basically told the hornets and lakers to themselves because they could. I think thats pretty wrong in an association where these en ies are supposed to be independent. Chris Paul has a right to be pissed, as the rest of the leauge - who does not employ him - screwed him pretty bad.

    Obviously I'm not an expert and I don't know the details of the NBA operating the hornets and how independent the Hornets are supposed to be through this situation but what Stern did strikes me as wrong.
    That's a big part of this mess. The other 29 teams own the Hornets and, at least in part, employ everyone in that organization.

    I do agree that Stern has acted poorly here. If they were going limit Demps' authority to make player transactions, they should have done so in advance. Allowing him to negotiate with other teams and agents and then pulling this crap is just bad business.

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    To answer the people above, it looks as though the rest of the league basically told the hornets and lakers to themselves because they could. I think thats pretty wrong in an association where these en ies are supposed to be independent. Chris Paul has a right to be pissed, as the rest of the leauge - who does not employ him - screwed him pretty bad.

    Obviously I'm not an expert and I don't know the details of the NBA operating the hornets and how independent the Hornets are supposed to be through this situation but what Stern did strikes me as wrong.
    they each own 1/29 of the Hornets!

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    Stolen from downstairs:

    LOL LOL

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    I honestly think New Orleans did pretty well in the proposed trade. Scola's a of a player, Martin is so-so, and Dragic could end up being a decent point. It's not like a team is ever going to get anything approaching equal value when they trade a top 10 player who wants out.

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    you'll gotta hear this:

    http://espn.go.com/espnradio/losangeles/play?id=7333531

    Lamar in up and telling Stephen A Smith about his dreams...

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    this deal was rumored this morning right or conceived likely last night. wonder if stern waited until they signed the new cba. if they had vetoed the deal the players and more than likely the owners would have blown it up and gone full lockout again
    ...and the players would have ended up with 48% just so that they could get Paul in LA.

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    The NBA, following this labor unrest and with still a ton of financial issues and a fan base that largely didn't miss the league since its been gone, is co
    completely 100% desperate to get money and these nimrods feel stacking the deck for the big market teams will achieve that.

    In all this time have they not learned anything from the NFL? The NFL has such a devoted following because any year any specific team can rise up. Even the notoriously ty teams like the Bengals have a season where they can shine and get in the playoffs. Parity is what rules the day and keeps the fans interested yet the NBA is going in the opposite direction.

    They should seriously just scrap the whole thing an start over

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    I'm not sure each team owns 1/29th of the Hornets right now. The NBA =! all the teams but a separate en y from each of the teams. I don't know though, it really depends on the framework of everything having to do with the Hornets and this ed up situation.

    Chris Paul definitely has a reason to be ing pissed though.

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    you'll gotta hear this:

    http://espn.go.com/espnradio/losangeles/play?id=7333531

    Lamar in up and telling Stephen A Smith about his dreams...
    I love it! I'll play a loop of it in the club!

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    lol....What a storm....

    thb the lakers this time around gave alot not like on 2008....
    giving alot while the only team that benefits from is the rockets, while NOH gets back from the rockets and buys 2-3 more years of being a mediocrity team...makes no sense for them, when its the rockets and lakers who gain the most.

    NOH should keep their capspace then adding more to its payroll.

    gasol = gasoft memphis led team = going nowhere
    bynum = one knee man who cant even play the whole season
    rockets roster = piece of that didnt even make the playoffs

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    League source on killed deal: "...(Stern) wasn't going to let Chris Paul dictate where he wanted to go."
    (More) "In the end, David didn’t like that the players were dictating where they wanted to go," source says.

    Per Wojo's twitter.

    ing ridiculous.

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    What's ridiculous is taking a deal that makes no sense for your franchise and having a league owned team.

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    Real email from Dan Gilbert to Stern:

    Commissioner,

    It would be a travesty to allow the Lakers to acquire Chris Paul in the apparent trade being discussed.

    This trade should go to a vote of the 29 owners of the Hornets.

    Over the next three seasons this deal would save the Lakers approximately $20 million in salaries and approximately $21 million in luxury taxes. That $21 million goes to non-taxpaying teams and to fund revenue sharing.

    I cannot remember ever seeing a trade where a team got by far the best player in the trade and saved over $40 million in the process. And it doesn’t appear that they would give up any draft picks, which might allow to later make a trade for Dwight Howard. (They would also get a large trade exception that would help them improve their team and/or eventually trade for Howard.) When the Lakers got Pau Gasol (at the time considered an extremely lopsided trade) they took on tens of millions in additional salary and luxury tax and they gave up a number of prospects (one in Marc Gasol who may become a max-salary player).

    I just don’t see how we can allow this trade to happen.

    I know the vast majority of owners feel the same way that I do.

    When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

    Please advise….

    Dan G.

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    Commissioner,

    It would be a travesty to allow the Lakers to acquire Chris Paul in the apparent trade being discussed.

    This trade should go to a vote of the 29 owners of the Hornets.

    Over the next three seasons this deal would save the Lakers approximately $20 million in salaries and approximately $21 million in luxury taxes. That $21 million goes to non-taxpaying teams and to fund revenue sharing.

    I cannot remember ever seeing a trade where a team got by far the best player in the trade and saved over $40 million in the process. And it doesn’t appear that they would give up any draft picks, which might allow to later make a trade for Dwight Howard. (They would also get a large trade exception that would help them improve their team and/or eventually trade for Howard.) When the Lakers got Pau Gasol (at the time considered an extremely lopsided trade) they took on tens of millions in additional salary and luxury tax and they gave up a number of prospects (one in Marc Gasol who may become a max-salary player).

    I just don’t see how we can allow this trade to happen.

    I know the vast majority of owners feel the same way that I do.

    When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

    Please advise….

    Dan G.








    Fixed.

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    Real email from Dan Gilbert to Stern:
    no way, this is real.

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    Dan G making the trade look even more stupid Demps should retire for being a dummy.

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    It's real

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    Commissioner,

    It would be a travesty to allow the Lakers to acquire Chris Paul in the apparent trade being discussed.

    This trade should go to a vote of the 29 owners of the Hornets.

    Over the next three seasons this deal would save the Lakers approximately $20 million in salaries and approximately $21 million in luxury taxes. That $21 million goes to non-taxpaying teams and to fund revenue sharing.

    I cannot remember ever seeing a trade where a team got by far the best player in the trade and saved over $40 million in the process. And it doesn’t appear that they would give up any draft picks, which might allow to later make a trade for Dwight Howard. (They would also get a large trade exception that would help them improve their team and/or eventually trade for Howard.) When the Lakers got Pau Gasol (at the time considered an extremely lopsided trade) they took on tens of millions in additional salary and luxury tax and they gave up a number of prospects (one in Marc Gasol who may become a max-salary player).

    I just don’t see how we can allow this trade to happen.

    I know the vast majority of owners feel the same way that I do.

    When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

    Please advise….

    Dan G.








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    damn....i woulda welcomed this trade....pau i think still has the good days ahead and lamar is pretty versatile.....

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    And it doesn’t appear that they would give up any draft picks, which might allow to later make a trade for Dwight Howard.
    How the do give of CP3 and not get every draft pick in the foreseeable future?

    Props to Dan G.

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    plus i woulda loved to see kobe and paul implode

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