Spurfan has hit a new low

[DPG21920]

It's funny how when it comes to me - I defend my positions, when it comes to others they just use hyperbole and over exaggerate their opponents stance and it's cool .

But when they wake up, they gon' have their same lives and Ima just do me.

[Samuel Eto'o]

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[mavs>spurs]

I'm gonna have fun this year every time OJ mayo has a good game

[DPG21920]

Okay friend, so answer me this question: who has the better team defense (better system catered to defense)?

After answering that: what team defense out of Memphis and San Antonio is able to mask an individual's defensive weaknesses (in doing so, inflating a player's defense stats leading to an overrating of that ability)


After answering those, integrate those takes into this discussion. I want to hear what the almighty DPG has to say.

I don't really understand the question tbh so I'll just answer as directly as I can.

Memphis is a top 5-7 team defensively, so they are better than the Spurs defensively as a team. Their system is more condusive to hiding weaker players defensively.

The Spurs were pretty average/below average defensively (they were an offensive driven team), but by pretty much all metrics (defensive impact on the team and compared to players of their position) DG graded out pretty well and OJ did not.

Even if DG's defense is overrated by some - that really is not relevant to me. He is by all measures at least an above average defender and OJ is below average.

[DeadlyDynasty]

True.

OJ Mayo shot much worse than James Harden even though he scored more points, true or false?

OJ Mayo has shot worse than DG in the playoffs, true or false?

OJ Mayo shot horrific against the Spurs they year MEM beat SA, true of false?

OJ Mayo lost to the same Clippers last year including a game 7 at home where he shot 1-11, true or false?

Sorry, was on a call (old person with SOB).

True to all, but it doesn't change the fact that I still want the higher-ceiling player--especially if the best coach/system in the league is coaching him. I think OJ would thrive in the Spurs run and gun offense.

Danny Green's defense--whatever you may think of it--does not bridge the gap from contender to champion or playoff team to contender. If he were to get injured you'd see more Manu and SJax...both better players.

[DPG21920]

Again - the entire point of all of this was not to say DG>>>>>>>>>>OJ. It was to say it's not a laughable debate at all and by most overall measures they grade out as about equal depending on what you are looking for and even moreso when you talk systems. That's it. I don't get why people take it to extremes and ignore this and turn it into something else (i.e. "want to bet OJ Mayo completely dominates and scores more points!).

I guess I have finally said enough on the topic since Eto is counting my posts (even though it's all basketball related).

[DPG21920]

Sorry, was on a call (old person with SOB).

True to all, but it doesn't change the fact that I still want the higher-ceiling player--especially if the best coach/system in the league is coaching him. I think OJ would thrive in the Spurs run and gun offense.

Danny Green's defense--whatever you may think of it--does not bridge the gap from contender to champion or playoff team to contender. If he were to get injured you'd see more Manu and SJax...both better players.

Well, the numbers from last year disagree and I don't see OJ (at least nothing to date has shown it - both playoffs and regular season) that he would shoot better than Danny (Danny is streaky, OJ just pretty consistently sucks and chucks IMO with rare flashes of a high ceiling).

I get why you would say OJ over DG. I am not arguing that is a bad take. I'm just arguing that saying DG over OJ, especially for the Spurs isn't some crazy thing like OP made it out to be.

That was my real last comment.

[Samuel Eto'o]

That was my real last comment.

Sure you don't want to do 3 more and call it a clean sixty?

[DeadlyDynasty]

OK, although I haven't seen many exaggerations today, tbh. Like I've stated, OJ comes off the bench for a half-court, inside-out, plodding team. The Spurs have a run-and-gun guard-friendly system that's catered for scorers. Pop is good at finding other people's garbage and working them into plug-and-play roles. Neal and Green are prime examples of this.


Agree to disagree, though.

[Samuel Eto'o]

Neal, I forgot how much spurfan hyped him tbh.

Its kinda like Roger Mason......remember him? I can't believe some of those re s made their username after him