What REALLY happened in Benghazi

[JoeChalupa]

This was not handled well from the start. Not good at all.

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Condi Rice Pours Cold Water On ‘Benghazi-Gate’

RICE: But when things are unfolding very, very quickly, it’s not always easy to know what is really going on on the ground. And to my mind, the really important questions here are about how information was collected. Did the various agencies really coordinate and share intelligence in the way that we had hoped, with the reforms that were made after 9/11?


So there’s a big picture to be examined here. But we don’t have all of the pieces, and I think it’s easy to try and jump to conclusions about what might have happened here.

It’s probably better to let the relevant bodies do their work.

http://thinkprogress.org/security/20...d-water-libya/

weak, but beyond expectations for a war criminal

[DMC]

There will not be a response just as there was no response for the attack of the USS Cole and the first WTC bombing.

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Diana West: Benghazi Attack was a 'Fortunate Event' Because it Helps Romney

West: As you and I have discussed, I strongly feel that Benghazi is almost in a strange way a fortunate event. Not obviously having to do with any of the actual killing and destruction and harm it’s done to our country, but in the sense of grabbing people’s attention so that we can understand what’s wrong with the American ‘Arab Spring’ policy that Obama has been executing. In a sense that’s what I would have wanted in a Republican nominee to use Benghazi as a teaching school, taking it down the line, whether it’s presidential lies, administration lies, whether it’s security failure and whether it’s sort of the über-theme, the failure of supporting jihad, Muslim Brotherhood actors across the Middle East and how it comes back to bight you every time.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conten...t-helps-romney

Some real garbage bags on the right.

"American ‘Arab Spring’ policy that Obama has been executing."

WTF is that? maybe: "supporting jihad, Muslim Brotherhood"

uber? she's got the trendy lingo down

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McLiar lying his senile ass off. Repugs really think their fabricated Benghazi outrage is gonna win them the WH

McCain: Obama Response To Libya Attack Is Worse Than Watergate

MCCAIN: Also, by the way, he said he immediately ordered action to be taken, no action was taken over seven hours. Now we find out the Secretary of Defense decided not to take any action. You know what, somebody the other day said to me that this is as bad as Watergate. Well, nobody died in Watergate. But this is either a massive cover-up or an incompetence that is not acceptable service to the American people.

http://thinkprogress.org/security/20...a-attack-line/

[dbestpro]

None of it seems to make much sense. The response is confusing and the response to the response is equally confusing.

It's kind of like the administration did something stupid and the response is you've got something to hide because no one can be that stupid.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Condi Rice Pours Cold Water On ‘Benghazi-Gate’

RICE: But when things are unfolding very, very quickly, it’s not always easy to know what is really going on on the ground. And to my mind, the really important questions here are about how information was collected. Did the various agencies really coordinate and share intelligence in the way that we had hoped, with the reforms that were made after 9/11?


So there’s a big picture to be examined here. But we don’t have all of the pieces, and I think it’s easy to try and jump to conclusions about what might have happened here.

It’s probably better to let the relevant bodies do their work.

http://thinkprogress.org/security/20...d-water-libya/

weak, but beyond expectations for a war criminal

She pretty much echoes what my take is.

[ChumpDumper]

There will not be a response just as there was no response for the attack of the USS Cole and the first WTC bombing.

Since one suspect is already dead and another is in jail, I respectfully disagree.

[DMC]

Since one suspect is already dead and another is in jail, I respectfully disagree.

Right. That's a response? I prefer how Israel responds.

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"no response for the attack of the USS Cole and the first WTC bombing"

St Ronnie negotiated with the Iranians about the hostages, told them to hold the hostages until he was in office, so Carter got all the blame. Then St Ronnie didn't retaliate, other than supporting Saddam attacking Iran.

And St Ronnie told the Marines to tuck tail and get out of Lebanon after the barracks bombing.

[ChumpDumper]

Right. That's a response? I prefer how Israel responds.

Lame jingosim tbh

[RandomGuy]

Those number just moved to Afghanistan after Obama took office. Deaths are deaths.

Anyhow lol at self righteous assholes around here who never served, many anti-military in the 1st place who use combat related deaths as a talking point.

I served 89-93. Intel analyst, US Army. FWIW. I knew what Iraq is/was, as well as what happened in Yugoslavia in the mid ninties after the police state there got removed and stopped preventing groups of people who hated each others guts from killing each other.

[TeyshaBlue]

I served 89-93. Intel analyst, US Army. FWIW.

Dude, I don't know how I missed this. Word.

[RandomGuy]

Dude, I don't know how I missed this. Word.

Thanks/you're welcome.

I happened to have the same take on the whole thing that the Defense Secretary at the time did regarding going into Iraq:



The seemed remarkably prescient when it comes to what was going to happen in 2003 when we decided to go in. I wish Bush had listened to this guy.

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" I wish Bush had listened to this guy."

dubya DID listen to head and invaded Iraq for the oil.

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Old white male racist Repugs gonna get that uppity n!gg@ b!tch, yet

New GOP Attack On Susan Rice: She Should Have Manipulated The Intelligence Or Stayed Silent On Benghazi

Emerging from talks with U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Susan Rice, Senate Republicans have a new line of attack on Libya: if it was unclear what happened in Benghazi, why say anything at all in the aftermath?

The newest salvo comes from Sens. John McCain (R-AZ), Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Kelly Ayotte (R-NH) after a very short-lived detente with the Obama administration on the response to the Sept. 11 assault in Libya.

The three met with Rice behind closed doors on Capitol Hill today and emerged with a new attack campaign, declaring that they only had “more questions” about what the administration knew and when.

“The American people got bad information on Sept. 16,” Graham said during a press conference today, referring to Rice’s Sept. 16 appearances on the Sunday talk shows. “And the question is ‘Should they have been giving information at all?’ If you can give nothing but bad information, isn’t it better to give no information?”


Rather than acknowledging that the intelligence community had vetted and aided in the drafting of Rice’s unclassified talking points that day, the senators in the post-meeting press conference instead chose to fault Rice for not only failing to be more critical of the assessment she was given but for not potentially revealing classified information:

AYOTTE: What troubles me also, the changes made to the unclassified talking points were misleading. But just to be clear, when you have a position where you’re Ambassador to the United Nations, you go well beyond unclassified talking points in your daily preparation and responsibilities for that job. And that’s troubling to me as well, why she wouldn’t have asked “I’m the person that doesn’t know about this, I’m going on every single show?” But in addition, it’s not just the talking points that were unclassified, but clearly it was part of her responsibility as Ambassador to the United Nations to review much more than that.

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/11/27/1242791/new-gop-libya-attack-rice-stayed-silent-manipulated-inte/

[Wild Cobra]

Yes, why did she blame it on something with no valid intel?

She is not qualified for the job!

[ChumpDumper]

She recited the talking points that were given to her by the intelligence community!

Burn the witch!

[RandomGuy]

Honestly, this whole thing seems to be great for Democrats.

The Republican obsession with pointless semantics makes them less and less credible with moderates and independents, IMO.

It would be interesting to see some polling on the matter.

To the GOP:

By all means... keep fanning the flames.

[CosmicCowboy]

She recited the talking points that were given to her by the intelligence community!

Burn the witch!

Actually she recited the talking points that were given to her by the White house.

[RandomGuy]

Actually she recited the talking points that were given to her by the White house.

[ChumpDumper]

Actually she recited the talking points that were given to her by the White house.

So do you understand what that means or do you think it fits in with your conspiracy?

[RandomGuy]

Actually she recited the talking points that were given to her by the White house.

Gasp... an embassador being a representative of the government, and communicating an official position?

I'm shocked, shocked I say!!!

Something must be done about this immediately!! This kind of behavior must stop.

I mean if ambassadors all go around representing their governments, what kind of world would that be?

[CosmicCowboy]

Gasp... an embassador being a representative of the government, and communicating an official position?

I'm shocked, shocked I say!!!

Something must be done about this immediately!! This kind of behavior must stop.

I mean if ambassadors all go around representing their governments, what kind of world would that be?

The white house can pick anyone they want to do the sunday talk shows.

I was just correcting the chumpster on who gave ambassador Rice the talking points.

[ChumpDumper]

The white house can pick anyone they want to do the sunday talk shows.

I was just correcting the chumpster on who gave ambassador Rice the talking points.

You do know who approved the talking points, do you not?