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    Back on point, Maher is dead-on when he gets on the media for being apologists for Islam. Dawkins goes into the same point in The God Delusion when he details the response to those Danish cartoons a few years ago, when even the moderate Muslim clerics in Europe were bending over backwards to justify the execution order for the artists and the vandalism of the newspaper's office that published them. He killed the media for expressing an understanding with the Muslim 'hurt' from these cartoons as if people should have to respectfully tip-toe around Islam.
    Yep

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    You must be equal to God to know what is necessary.
    No, I don't. You said yourself that God is the one who makes the CHOICES. Therefore, he CHOSE to go the human sacrifice route. If he is the one with infinite power and the final say, no particular action is necessary.

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    You must be equal to God to know what is necessary.
    GOD found ANTILOGIC SHIELD!!!

    GOD equipped ANTILOGIC SHIELD!!!

    GOD receives +3 to DEFENSE against LOGIC!!!

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    GOD found ANTILOGIC SHIELD!!!

    GOD equipped ANTILOGIC SHIELD!!!

    GOD receives +3 to DEFENSE against LOGIC!!!

    No spaghetti monster today?

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    You must be equal to God to know what is necessary.
    Also, if this is true, then YOU don't know if the sacrifice was necessary either. It could just as likely NOT have been necessary.

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    No spaghetti monster today?
    You missed him, he showed up earlier in the thread.

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    I think it's disingenuous to act like Christians (if you'd like to group them together) haven't been responsible for pain and suffering in the US based on misguided beliefs, or simply pure hatred. Slavery is a good example.

    I also think it's wrong for people to hold Christians to such a standard that they are unable to have made mistakes, realize the err of their ways and change accordingly.
    I don't see how it's wrong to fault Christians for claiming they have all the answers when their past beliefs include the world being flat and the sun rotating around earth.

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    But God did create evil.

    He created everything including man's capacity for evil. move.
    He allows free-will and evil to exist for a reason. Beyond me.

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    He allows free-will and evil to exist for a reason. Beyond me.
    He doesn't just "allow" for it, he created it.

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    You must be equal to God to know what is necessary.
    You must be equal to God to judge who is a true Christian.

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    Bottom line: I find some religious people annoying, but I don't consider them dangerous.

    For example, if a couple of Mormon kids knock on my door, I can politely tell them to f-off, without fear that my neighborhood will be bombed.

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    We only recently had a watershed moment where the issue of gay marriage has now become "acceptable". Obama's stance on this issue has only "evolved" over the past few years.
    seeing that Obama is a Christian that only helps my argument.

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    He allows free-will and evil to exist for a reason. Beyond me.
    There was no evil before God created it.

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    Bottom line: I find some religious people annoying, but I don't consider them dangerous.

    For example, if a couple of Mormon kids knock on my door, I can politely tell them to f-off, without fear that my neighborhood will be bombed.
    What would you do if a couple of Muslim kids knocked on your door?

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    Also, if this is true, then YOU don't know if the sacrifice was necessary either. It could just as likely NOT have been necessary.
    If I'm God and say you better feed a homeless person today or you're dead. Trust me, it's necessary you feed a homeless person today if you want to live.

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    Opposing Gay marriage doesn't equate to hatred of gays.
    Kinda like how supporting segregation doesn't equate to racism. It's a parallel situation.

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    Was anyone killed?
    no, but they ruined Jello's life with lawsuits.

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    If I'm God and say you better feed a homeless person today or you're dead. Trust me, it's necessary you feed a homeless person today if you want to live.
    So Gods pretty much have to be s.

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    What would you do if a couple of Muslim kids knocked on your door?
    Duck and cover, obviously.

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    People are people, and will use whatever they can get their hands on as excuses for furthering their own ideological agendas. Religion is a useful weapon for exercising said power. That doesn't mean that Christian, Muslim, Jewish, etc... beliefs are inherently wrong. People who think that the practice of religion necessarily is oppressive, violent, or on-par with the KKK are as stupid as the people who think there's a dude in the sky with a killer beard looking after you.

    Religion is neither good nor bad in-itself. It's a tool. That tool can be used for good (see, Mother Theresa) or bad (Spanish Inquisition). What's "made" with that tool has very little to do with the belief system and a whole lot to do with the ideology of the person wielding it.

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    I don't see how it's wrong to fault Christians for claiming they have all the answers when their past beliefs include the world being flat and the sun rotating around earth.
    That's fine. But it's not as if those beliefs were held exclusively by Christians.

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    seeing that Obama is a Christian that only helps my argument.
    In what societies has gay marriage been a long-standing accepted practice? I don't think this is confined to Christianity, tbh

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    He doesn't just "allow" for it, he created it.
    the question of evil is tough. He created man and Satan, so I can't argue he didn't create the capacity for evil to exist. I wish I knew it all, but my faith is strong.

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    If I'm God and say you better feed a homeless person today or you're dead. Trust me, it's necessary you feed a homeless person today if you want to live.
    But you're not God. If God tells you to tell me to feed a homeless person, I can say that you don't know the will of God, because you're not on his level, correct? Have you ever spoken directly with God?

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    Duck and cover, obviously.
    that's the clearest case of Islamophobia I've seen in a while

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