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    Spurs will be back I agree, but they have to get more talent. After the big 3 (including Manu here), the middle 3 of Green, Splitter, and Leonard, there is a precipitous drop in talent. We have to get a play now ready point guard who can score; someone like Felton or Jarrett Jack or maybe even Monta Ellis.

    The big 3 have been my heroes, but Manu truly is done. He can't seem to un- himself and I do not trust him to make the right play down the stretch. Pop also made huge errors which cost the team and the city #5, there is no denying it. Nothing can be done about it. Pop insisted on riding a broken horse. The roster has to get better.

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    Manu is done as part of the Big Three, it's Kawhi's turn now.
    I totally agree with you. That is why I hope TMac resign with the Spurs. He needs to visit that German doctor Kobe and Duncan went to fix his knees. From the glimpses I saw of TMAC, he was still every bit a facilitator as the Manu (not Game 6/7) that we all know. Manu needs someone off the bench to help him with this role and TMAC would be the prime candidate considering he would resign for cheap if he decided to continue playing.

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    I totally agree with you. That is why I hope TMac resign with the Spurs. He needs to visit that German doctor Kobe and Duncan went to fix his knees. From the glimpses I saw of TMAC, he was still every bit a facilitator as the Manu (not Game 6/7) that we all know. Manu needs someone off the bench to help him with this role and TMAC would be the prime candidate considering he would resign for cheap if he decided to continue playing.
    Agree with you. Hopefully, the Spurs' medical staff will do wonders for Tmac is decides to resign with us. Him and Manu in the second unit will wreck havoc against opposing second units in the NBA.

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    I hope holt opens his wallet they were so close this year
    but neal,green can not dribble the ball

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    What's the earliest we can sign Manu to a new deal to knock down his cap hold?

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    I woke up this morning with confidence that the Spurs would be back next year - these two losses will take time to get over for the Spurs to get over, but just like everything else, time will make it better.

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    Manu needs to retire. His legacy took a gigantic hit this year. It is very easy to view his career through silver and black lenses and think about how big of a role he played in his three les, but his days of leading us in the clutch... or even over opposing bench squads... are over. I just keep imagining him leaping out of bounds baseline and passing right to the Heat n the most important possession of our season last night...

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    I think the spurs will be back...in the finals tbh

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    Manu needs to retire. His legacy took a gigantic hit this year.
    That is why he will be back. Manu doesn't want to go out like this. He will be back for another run next year and the Spurs will be improved as well with the Cap Space they have available.

    Manu goes when Duncan goes.

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    I am confident they'll be back because of Green and Leonard. I expect them to improve tremendously over the summer again. This experience will make them hungrier and more determined to do better next year after coming so close. I also expect Manu to bounce back and not end his career on such a low note. Duncan will be Duncan and Tony will be Tony. Now let's just get ourselves another ball handler and a mobile big for next year. I hope Diaw and Tmac stick around.

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    dont kid yourselves. Pop is leaving the second Tim does, and then your team will be riding the lottery for years to come. Good run, but the fat lady is singing.


    yall are all welcome to root for the Utah Jazz and their exciting young core in the years to come.
    You know what I love about your quote, yes the Spurs MIGHT ride the lottery for a couple of years like OKC did, and b/c THEY KNOW HOW TO DRAFT, they will be right back in the thick of things while the Jazz just keep on sucking.
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    The Spurs will be back. They don't need to rebuild. They can build around Green, Leonard, and Parker. I don't see why anyone would think this team needs a full rebuild.

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    Regardless of who's on the roster next season, THE SPURS WILL BE BACK.

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    I'm really confident for next year, more confident than I have been in a while, but damn this loss hurts so bad thinking about. I really thought we had it in Game 6, I usually try not to get ahead of myself but I really thought it was over and my eyes were starting to tear up. One more damn free throw and that wouldn't have been possible. It's dumb to dwell in the past, but it just hurts a lot right now

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    dont kid yourselves. Pop is leaving the second Tim does, and then your team will be riding the lottery for years to come. Good run, but the fat lady is singing.


    yall are all welcome to root for the Utah Jazz and their exciting young core in the years to come.
    Lol by that time spurs will have money to throw at a RFA, maybe D Favours, Gordan Hayward, kanter. Malone and Stockton, deron and booz, Al and millsapp never had a chance..what makes you think were gonna root for this group.

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    They will end up like the 2010 Celtics - old players breaking down every post-season. Spurs were fortunate last year and this year with their relative lack of injuries. More than likely one of Duncan/Parker/Ginobili won't be making it though a grueling a regular season.

    Can we really expect Duncan to have another comeback season?
    Can we really expect Ginobili NOT to get any worse?
    Can we rely on Parker to lead this team despite his track record as a mediocre playoff performer?
    this is how I'm feeling, though i've agreed with your takes before on Parker and Ginobili.



    i guess i don't understand timvp 's confidence right now. during the playoffs he was extremely pessimistic whereas I was very positive about our chances. now though he's confident about the future and I feel like we are stuck in limbo.

    a lot of things went right the past two years, and both times we've failed to capitalize on them. 2012 really sucked, in some ways worse because the refs screwed us over. But we still got outcoached by Scotty friggin Brooks. This year though was an epic collapse, and the refs gave us chances.

    I'll never doubt Duncan's compe ive spirit for as long as I live. Just an amazing, badass player.

    I suppose my loss of confidence is because I've lost faith in the leadership under Pop. He's still a smart coach in some regards, and I can't think of a replacement at the moment. But it's going to suck losing Bud. I've seen enough now to realize Pop is ting the bed repeatedly. As much as Manu is to blame for his all time bad Finals, Pop was the one who kept giving him tons of minutes.

    I don't want to crush anyone's dreams but you have to think that perhaps we are a playoff purgatory team, which isn't a bad place to be, it's similar to Denver, Utah etc....always in the hunt. Of course those teams haven't gotten as close to a le as us. So we're better than that, but they also don't have a Duncan, who might go down as a top 5 player imho.

    anyways, my emotions are still raw and I'm a bit perplexed by this whole thing, but I don't feel confident about it at the moment.

    It was good reading the comment above about Kawhi and his tendonitis being common. If he can continue to get better and stronger, holy ....

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    Agreed.

    Clearly, when your three best (or, three of your best four) players are at the stage theirs are at, it's always doubtful, but unless the Thunder take a clear step forward (as opposed to just incremental improvement from some of their young guys), at the very least, they should start next season as at least co-favorites in the West.

    Two big decisions loom, however . . .

    1) Splitter. I've seen all I need to see the past two playoffs to know that this is not a guy you can "go to war with". I don't care how good a fit he is, zero chance I'd tie up a bare minimum of 4/$32M in him.

    2) Backup PG. The days of having Ginobili essentially play this role are over (or at least, they should be) and Joseph is far too limited a player to assume the role.

    Unfortunately, I have zero confidence in them addressing these two needs. In fact, I don't think they'll make a significant move period and instead will just hope Leonard and to a lesser extent, Joseph, take a big step forward.
    Well put, especially the first point. Splitter should be the 3rd big in the rotation tbh (I'm not counting Diaw as a big here).

    Not sure about this. It took two key injuries in the west for the Spurs to make the finals. Not gonna line up like that next season.
    I understand the pessimism here, but I think that OKC is not the threat it was to us last year. Two things have changed: Harden is gone and Leonard is a much better player than he was when we lost to them in the WCF last year. Given what Kawahi did to LeBron, I think he's got what it takes to make Durant work hard for everything he gets and slow him down just enough.

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    Agreed .. It's over this spurs team Gino,Timmy done..
    This year was a magical run and we couldn't meet the moment - we came thisclose but didn't get it done. Next year is likely to be an epic collapse - particularly if Timmy goes down.

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    We will be in it because Tim, Tony and Manu are going to come back, work on their game even more and improve, within possible on every aspect they can.
    And the rest of the team and the FO will follow that example. I don´t know how they will perform, but we have 3 of the greatest champions representing the team we are passionate for, and there is no better reward than that, not even one more NBA champions.
    I believe 100% in our leaders and i will never rout against them, will be in the mix untill the wheels fall off, and if we are lucky enough the basketball gods will reward what has been one of the most humble, hardworking and exampling (not sure if this word exists) core that I have ever seen in any sport.

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    This was their chance. Don't sugarcoat it.

    All the talk of how hard it is to get back to The Finals...the Red Sea had to part for our team to even get to the Finals this year: They knew it, and they blew it. This isn't the Dynastic Spurs team; we can't just expect them to be there year after year anymore.

    This core is done.

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    This was their chance. Don't sugarcoat it.

    All the talk of how hard it is to get back to The Finals...the Red Sea had to part for our team to even get to the Finals this year: They knew it, and they blew it. This isn't the Dynastic Spurs team; we can't just expect them to be there year after year anymore.

    This core is done.
    even if by some miracle we win next year, and that would be a big one, it would be nice, but it will still be bittersweet to think of all the chances we've blown in the past few years.

    "meh, the system needs more tweaking."

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    Agreed.

    Clearly, when your three best (or, three of your best four) players are at the stage theirs are at, it's always doubtful, but unless the Thunder take a clear step forward (as opposed to just incremental improvement from some of their young guys), at the very least, they should start next season as at least co-favorites in the West.

    Two big decisions loom, however . . .

    1) Splitter. I've seen all I need to see the past two playoffs to know that this is not a guy you can "go to war with". I don't care how good a fit he is, zero chance I'd tie up a bare minimum of 4/$32M in him.

    2) Backup PG. The days of having Ginobili essentially play this role are over (or at least, they should be) and Joseph is far too limited a player to assume the role.

    Unfortunately, I have zero confidence in them addressing these two needs. In fact, I don't think they'll make a significant move period and instead will just hope Leonard and to a lesser extent, Joseph, take a big step forward.
    i agree with you, the spurs are one of the least likely teams to have the balls to do a major trade. that hill trade was done because it was a rare trade where both parties got what they wanted. we are gonna need not just a big man but also a good pg.

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    dont kid yourselves. Pop is leaving the second Tim does, and then your team will be riding the lottery for years to come. Good run, but the fat lady is singing.


    yall are all welcome to root for the Utah Jazz and their exciting young core in the years to come.
    meh, with the way the jazz are going they will be mediocre for a long time. I don't know whats so exiting about barely missing the playoffs/barely clinching the 8th seed every year.

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    I'm really optimistic because of Green's and Leonard's emergence. I really expect them to come back stronger next season and I'm sure our defense will keep us in the hunt. I just think we need another veteran presence to help us when our 3s our falling ala Ray Allen and Battier. Of course, another big and a serviceable wingman.

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