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Would people still support abortion if it was legal nationwide in America but the catch is that hippie groups like Planned Parenthood are 100 percent privately funded?
Not quite what I said.
I would love to see the people who fight abortion hold just as many rallies to gather donations for the foster care system, or to provide college for children removed from abusive parents.
I simply have never seen anything like that.
As for who provides the free daycare, I don't care who does it, as long as it is done.
Sorry, private charity is completely, totally incapable of helping the poor in the scale required to do any real good.
Would people still support abortion if it was legal nationwide in America but the catch is that hippie groups like Planned Parenthood are 100 percent privately funded?
Not real hard to find...although nobody really has a membership list, I would suspect a good number of peeps that fight abortion would be participating.
https://www.google.com/webhp?source=...w=1920&bih=955
I don't think you understand fully about private charities. What foster care system are you talking about? There are also tons of benefits for adopted children, private and public funding.
I cannot speak for everyone who is pro life. But killing a child and helping a child better their undeserved situation are two completely different things.
Are you paying for someone beside yourself's daycare? Or do you just want someone else to pay for your dream?
Rising above the fraythinking that's my troll
Last edited by sjacquemotte; 07-01-2013 at 04:19 PM.
It's a fetus, and the mother HAS the right to prioritize her own life over that of the parasite she's carrying. As it has been stated before, an abortion at that point is less risky health wise than carrying the full pregnancy.
Don't take it personally, it actually has nothing to do specifically with you, you just happened to bring up a meme that a lot of people keep bringing up when abortion is discussed. But IMO, when a law doesn't even give an out for cases of rape or incest, talking about personal responsibility and bad choices it's just nonsense. I'm not looking to "win" any argument here. Just stating what I think. I think you're doing too, even if we don't agree.
If a fetus is a parasite(never heard someone call an unborn baby that), then why is the woman doing the thing(having sex) that will create the so-called parasite?
Jacob, this isn't really complicated. As long as the lump of cells/fetus depends on the mother (host) to live, it's a parasitic relationship. As far as why, do I really need to tell you why a woman or humans in general have sex?
If a woman doesn't want the parasite to be formed in her cooch, then she needs to either to abstain from sex and use a vibrator or have a guy eat her out or she needs to have her tubes tied. Bam. Problem solved.
Good luck with that.
Women’s Rights Are Human Rights: Texas Men Explain Why So Many Are Joining The Fight
One hallmark of Monday’s massive protest was the number of men who joined the rally for women’s rights, some even driving from as far as Houston and Dallas to attend. Cecile Richards, president of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, remarked to ThinkProgress that their presence showed “these are not just women’s issues, they’re family issues.”
ThinkProgress spoke with over a half-dozen men at the rally about what it meant for them to be there and the importance of women’s rights being a universal issue. Here’s what they told us:
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013...womens-rights/
The 10 Most Absurd Things Texas Republicans Said About Abortion This Year
State Sen. Dan Patrick (R): Defending his party's chaotic effort to force through a vote as the session was ending, the founder of the state's tea party caucus told former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee on his radio show that lawmakers had an obligation to ignore proper senate rules and procedure if it meant saving fetuses: "I spoke to my colleagues and said, when Jesus criticized the Pharisees, he criticized them because their laws and their rules were more important than actually taking care of people. And in my view, stopping a debate to save thousands of lives, well, saving the thousands of lives is more important than our tradition of, well, you should never stop someone."
State Rep. Bill Zedler (R): On Twitter, referring to reproductive rights activists: "We had terrorists in the Texas State Senate opposing SB 5."
Gov. Rick Perry: Speaking to a national right-to-life conference on Friday, Perry lamented that Davis, who was raised by a single mother and had her first child at 19, hadn't drawn the proper lessons from her own life: "It is just unfortunate that she hasn't learned from her own example that every life must be given a chance to realize its full potential and that every life matters."
Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst: After initially telling reporters the bill had passed, Dewhurst later offered up an excuse for why it had failed: "An unruly mob, using Occupy Wall Street tactics, disrupted the Senate from protecting unborn babies." Following that, he threatened to arrest reporters for interfering with the Democratic process: "If I find, as I've been told, examples of the media waving and trying to inflame the crowd, incite them in the direction of a riot, I'm going to take action against them. We have reports that members of the media on the floor, on the floor of the Senate, were looking up at the people in the gallery, waving their hands, trying to motivate them to yell more. If I find examples of that, proof certain on our video. I'm going to address this firmly."
State Rep. Jodie Laubenberg (R): Laubenberg, the bill's sponsor, suggested during the floor debate that there was no need to include an exception for victims of rape, because rape kits are themselves a form of abortion: "In the emergency room they have what’s called rape kits, where a woman can get cleaned out. The woman had five months to make that decision, at this point we are looking at a baby that is very far along in its development."
etc
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013...eated-rhetoric
North Carolina Governor to Sign Bill Forcing Educators to Teach That Abortion Is Cause of Pre-Term Birth
SB 132, a new bill that will require health educators to teach seventh-grade students, incorrectly, that abortion is a cause of preterm birth.
There is no major medical group in the country that claims abortion causes preterm birth in subsequent pregnancies.
http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/20...ality+Check%29
typical Repug/"Christian" haters, dedicated to all Big Lies.
Which is why it needs to be removed from the political process.
Question is... how do we do that?
Get rid if the single member winner takes all district. The state's are allotted so many reps by the fed and they are the one's that come up with the voting system. Texas will never go first but a parliamentary system would nix that and encourage 3rd party participation.
That would highly favor conservatives Fuzzy, and would give extremely strong voting power to rural communities.
Not all states do districting by elected politicians.
Some use bureaucrats, which wouldn't work in TX because RickyBobby has polluted the bureacracy with Repug political hacks, much like the dubya/ head did to the federal bureaucracy.
long article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymander
How much money is wasted on ing about abortion? If a woman wants to kill her baby, let her do it and the only consequence that she will have to deal with is regret, guilt, and remorse. That's fair right?
Repugs are All Abortion, All The Time, other than the time voting to repeal Obamacare 40 times.
They take their job of serving, governing, advancing The Great American People very seriously.
Repugs are cheating chicken s, everwhere. Won't debate or even mention in committee what they sneak through.
In ‘sneak attack,’ North Carolina GOP pushes bill that could close all but one abortion clinic
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/0...e+Raw+Story%29
the ing Confederacy, ing up their states, and blaming it on Christ.
btw, no coincidence that the 5 or 6 "worst" states by many, if not all measures are all Repug states.
Repug Wall St 1%er Grease Bag in action in the War on (Poor) Women
Chris Christie Vetoes Family Planning Funding for the Fifth Time
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie has signed the state budget, and for the fifth time the Republican politician has refused the inclusion of additional funding for family planning services. Christie previously vetoed the funding in 2012, in 2011, and twice in 2010.
As they have done in budget years past, New Jersey’s Democratic legislators attempted to add $7.5 million in family planning funds, hoping that the money would prop back up a system of women’s health clinics that has been depleted since Gov. Christie took office.
According to the Star Ledger, Senate Majority Leader Loretta Weinberg (D-Bergen) proposed the funding this year, citing the six reproductive health centers that have closed since the 2010 budget cuts. “It is shameful that the governor is playing politics with the health of the women of New Jersey,” Sen. Weinberg told the paper. “Women and families in communities across New Jersey have lost access to cancer screenings, pre-natal care, STD testing and treatment and birth control.”
http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/20...ality+Check%29
Last edited by boutons_deux; 07-03-2013 at 10:26 AM.
PP posted a $400,000,000 profit last year. They can take a 7.5 mil hit. NJ is 11 billion in the red. Also, PP is not the sole source of these services.
Political footall...all it is and the moonbat blogs run with it.
The Guttmacher Ins ute says 30 percent of American women have had an abortion by age 40.
http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate...ut-on-abortion
At least in NJ, most of those clinics already receive federal funding...
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