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    Willful ignorance is the child of intolerance.

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    That doesn't sound very realistic to me. It sounds sheltered and ignorant.

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    Intolerance is the natural concomitant of strong faith; tolerance grows only when faith loses certainty... certainty is murderous. Will Durant

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    No, on this planet all these conditions exist, including those you deem to be extant only in the "real" one. Sadly, you can only grok a few of those conditions. The rest will always remain a mystery to you. By choice.



    It's called, "willfull ignorance".
    You really don't pay attention do you? I have raised a family, been all over the place, know tons and tons of people. Have a truck load of interests and am $$$$$$$$$$$$ secure. I'm not some kid trying to figure it out. I have seen what I talk about first hand, I'm also an avid reader.


    You talk to the police (I have) about the gang activity, what do they tell you? Talk to anyone in the child care business, what do they tell you? You really do need to educate yourself on this topic, you are totally wrong if you think children are better off without their mom and dad.


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    A central message in your book is that fathers and sons are on parallel journeys throughout life and that fathers grow, change, and develop as much as their sons. How so and what role does a son play in his father’s emotional life?

    Fathers and sons share a basic biological resemblance and their unique bond naturally emerges from the ease of identifying with the other’s maleness. In part, because of this intense mutual identification, a father and his son have an especially multifaceted impact upon one another throughout their lives.
    In their complex interaction, the father influences the way his son develops, and simultaneously, his son affects the way that his father handles his own parallel transitions. Thus, for example, to become guardians of infants, fathers assume a new set of responsibilities and are challenged to redefine their sense of masculinity. As a liaison for their sons entry to the larger world, men learn to appreciate “otherness”, that is, to recognize that other people have an existence apart from theirs, which is the root of empathy. When boys need their fathers to become models and to approve of their behavior, men are called upon to develop their sense of paternal authority and personal responsibility. As boys contend with the "oedipal stage," their fathers confront, contain, and more appropriately express their own difficult emotions, particularly aggression, envy, jealousy and compe iveness. For their elementary school aged sons who need guidance, fathers are asked to develop their ability to teach and guide. Fathers of teenage boys learn to ride the roller coaster – to maintain their emotional equilibrium – to modulate their vulnerability -- in the face of their sons’ adulation and subsequent devaluation. As boys turn to young men, fathers begin to learn the lessons of "letting go" and surrendering their authority – a significant loss -- to their sons’ burgeoning autonomy. As the father of adult sons, fathers learn to confront their own dependency needs, and to find ways to leave a legacy that will survive their own death as mentors to their grandchildren and future generations. Finally, fathers learn to face and accept their own death, frequently through the help of their older sons.

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    What is tolerance? It is the consequence of humanity. We are all formed of frailty and error; let us pardon reciprocally each other's folly - that is the first law of nature. Voltaire

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    You really don't pay attention do you? I have raised a family. been all ove the place, know tons and toons of people. Have a truck load of interests and am $$$$$$$$$$$$ secure. I;m not some kid trying to figure it out. I have seen what I talk about first hand, I'm also an avid reader.
    Wow. Just like me.

    Except you're an intolerant hack.

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    Again, just admit there's the possibility that other views on this could exist. It's not difficult.

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    Common sense would dictate that.

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    You talk to the police (I have) about the gang activity, what do they tell you? Talk to anyone in the child care business, what do they tell you? You really do need to educate yourself on this topic, you are totally wrong if you think children are better off without their mom and dad.
    My first cousin is a cop in Lubbock.
    I taught in the Texas Public Schools for a decade.
    I'm likely better educated in the child care area than you are.

    I never said better, so stop building your straw fort.

    I simply said the situation could be as good.

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    Different. But good.

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    Wow. Just like me.

    Except you're an intolerant hack.
    Do you honestly believe a son doesn't need a father, you gotta be kidding me.

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    My first cousin is a cop in Lubbock.
    I taught in the Texas Public Schools for a decade.
    I'm likely better educated in the child care area than you are.

    I never said better, so stop building your straw fort.

    I simply said the situation could be as good.
    My uncle is a county sheriff, my wife has been in the day care business for over 30 years. Trust me I know what I'm talking about.

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    You really don't pay attention do you? I have raised a family, been all over the place, know tons and tons of people. Have a truck load of interests and am $$$$$$$$$$$$ secure. I'm not some kid trying to figure it out. I have seen what I talk about first hand, I'm also an avid reader. You talk to the police (I have) about the gang activity, what do they tell you? Talk to anyone in the child care business, what do they tell you? You really do need to educate yourself on this topic, you are totally wrong if you think children are better off without their mom and dad.
    You are just proving TB's point. How does your singular life experience make you think there is only one path for everyone. That's not realistic. Not everyone has the same life experiences and opportunities.

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    My uncle is a county sheriff, my wife has been in the day care business for over 30 years. Trust me I know what I'm talking about.
    Perhaps. I never said you didn't. That's the difference here. I acknowledge there can be different viewpoints with validity. This ability to hold simultaneous conflicting viewpoints is what sets us apart from animals.

    Trust me. It's also possible that I know what I'm talking about.

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    My uncle is a county sheriff, my wife has been in the day care business for over 30 years. Trust me I know what I'm talking about.
    No, you don't. You never do.

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    No matter how we wish it were, the world is not a binary solution set.

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    You are just proving TB's point. How does your singular life experience make you think there is only one path for everyone. That's not realistic. Not everyone has the same life experiences and opportunities.
    I don't that's why I've brought so many copy/paste sites to the table.

    I also come from a large family that spreads out over states. I also know a ton of people from my various jobs over the years. I 'd be hard pressd to find anyone telling me....a son doesn't need a father ....gay parents a great idea.....trust me.

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    No, you don't. You never do.
    You are now showing me just how ignorant you really are. Dude, we have child care in the home. I've talked with my uncle many times. He's mentioned fatherless homes as the reason for most gang activity.

    Wake up to real life...ok?

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    I.....trust me.
    um, no.

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    But if you want to have a link war, well that's certainly doable.

    Futile, but doable.

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    Well then read all that I have on this topic then, it's real obvious you're clueless.

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    I also come from a large family that spreads out over states. I also know a ton of people from my various jobs over the years. I 'd be hard pressd to find anyone telling me....a son doesn't need a father ....gay parents a great idea.....trust me.
    I can give you a scenario when a son doesn't need a father . . . when that father is an abusive, alcoholic piece of . How is someone like that in a child's best interest? What child needs a father like that? Sometimes a biological parent can be the worse person in the world to raise a child.

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    But if you want to have a link war, well that's certainly doable.

    Futile, but doable.
    I rather have a common sense discussion. You know as well as I do a boy needs a man in his life, so why the bull ?

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    I can give you a scenario when a son doesn't need a father . . . when that father is an abusive, alcoholic piece of . How is someone like that in a child's best interest? What child needs a father like that? Sometimes a biological parent can be the worse person in the world to raise a child.
    In fairness to Avante, I don't believe that's the scenario he's working with. Nobody agrees its good to have an abusive father. His argument is predicated upon there being solid parents.

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    I rather have a common sense discussion. You know as well as I do a boy needs a man in his life, so why the bull ?
    Benefits? Sure. Needs? Not so much.

    I guess we have to define the outcome before we can really quantify need.

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