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    I still believe the Spurs could legitimately land Granger if he really is interested in the two (Miami and Spurs)

    Miami has plenty of options on the wing as is. Even if he splits time on at SF and PF, he would still be behind James, Bosh, Battier etc.


    Shane Battier-992 minutes player=87% of minutes at SF (863)

    Michael Beasley-553 minutes player=65% of minutes at SF (359.5)

    Rashard Lewis-739 minutes player=47% of minutes at SF (347.3)

    Ray Allen-573 minutes player=43% of minutes at SF (239.5)

    Lebron James-1942 minutes player=12% of minutes at SF (233)


    Spurs only have 1 legit SF in Leonard and split the remaining minutes amongst Green and Ginobili. He could get up to 15 + minutes again as a combo 4.
    ridiculous how stacked they are.

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    Granger is past his prime, the knee injury has limited his athletism. Not sure if he's good enough nowdays to make an impact with the Spurs and get 20 mpg at SF from the bench. The vet minimum for less then half a season is a small risk, though.

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    Lol in '09 ron artest was roughing up kobe in the playoffs in a bitter series, next season he jumped on the lakers wagon and they became friends
    so grangers history with miami prob wont stop him from jumping on that wagon
    YES, you are correct. Allen leaves the Boston team as well and signs with their rival the Heat, whom the year before had a heated 7 game series and no love lost. This is a pussy league now.

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    You think Boylen might come in handy here? Or Ayres for that matter? Depending on the relationship he had w/those guys

    maybe even Brett Brown can vouch for us lol
    I like the things you've pointed out. The Brett Brown / Jim Boylen/ Jeff Aryes connection might help. Don't forget George Hill most likely talked to Granger about San Antono as well.
    Also Roy Hibbert worked out with Duncan in the off season so maybe a good word is put in for us with Hill and Hibbert.

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    Well, despite Granger not being very good, he's about as good as you could hope for. At least he doesn't have a coward mentality on top of being unable to perform. One anecdotal edge Spurs might have is that SA & IND are somewhat similar franchises (mindset / market..). On top of that I'm sure the great relationship Tim has with Hibbert surely is noticed by guys on Indy & I'm sure Hill spoke highly of them. If there is a buyout and mutual legit interest I'm sure SA has a good shot.
    I think your right . Playing time will come into play. With a shortage of small forwards , granger can expect more playing time in SA than he would in Miami,

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    when spurs where winning chips, the excuse was players didn't want to come to a team thats already winning, but would rather help a team win a le.

    Miami has won, is stacked, and everybody STILL wants to go there.

    Bottom line, nobody wants to come to SA....ever. Which makes what they've accomplished the last 15 years even that much more impressive.

    Although I still think they've left a few les on the table due to pops stubbornness.

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    when spurs where winning chips, the excuse was players didn't want to come to a team thats already winning, but would rather help a team win a le.
    never heard this excuse.

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    Ray Allen and Birdman are the only key ring chasers Miami has acquired, tbh(and Birdman wasn't even pursued by most teams IIRC)..I don't know where people get the idea that they are stacked from..

    Rashard Lewis sucks, Battier has been done since their 1st le, and Beasley doesn't even have a spot in their rotation due to his defense and IQ..

    It's pretty easy to look good playing a role around Lebron, as we have seen with our own team and Duncan in the early 2000s..

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    never heard this excuse.
    Yeah I never heard the 'too much success' excuse.

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    never heard this excuse.

    Karl Malone used that.

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    So he went to the Lakers

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    Lol in '09 ron artest was roughing up kobe in the playoffs in a bitter series, next season he jumped on the lakers wagon and they became friends
    so grangers history with miami prob wont stop him from jumping on that wagon
    Yeah Kobe actually said that Ron visited him in the showers in the Lakers locker room. Artest said that he wanted to be a Laker. In the off season, Ariza left and MWP signed for the MLE.

    As for Granger, he just played Lebron a bit physically. There shouldn't be any beef but Miami is super stacked at SF and Lebron plays virtually all of his minutes at PF.

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    I like the things you've pointed out. The Brett Brown / Jim Boylen/ Jeff Aryes connection might help. Don't forget George Hill most likely talked to Granger about San Antono as well.
    Also Roy Hibbert worked out with Duncan in the off season so maybe a good word is put in for us with Hill and Hibbert.
    Ah very true... Helps to have connections. I just hope they're strong enough to persuade him our way. Seems like a tough thing to do, like only Boris Diaw was a lock due to TP's relationship with him.

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    Ray Allen and Birdman are the only key ring chasers Miami has acquired, tbh(and Birdman wasn't even pursued by most teams IIRC)..I don't know where people get the idea that they are stacked from..

    Rashard Lewis sucks, Battier has been done since their 1st le, and Beasley doesn't even have a spot in their rotation due to his defense and IQ..

    It's pretty easy to look good playing a role around Lebron, as we have seen with our own team and Duncan in the early 2000s..
    I think Battier nailing 6 three pointers in game 7 helped tbh, and he still plays good defense regularly.

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    Ray Allen and Birdman are the only key ring chasers Miami has acquired, tbh(and Birdman wasn't even pursued by most teams IIRC)..I don't know where people get the idea that they are stacked from..

    Rashard Lewis sucks, Battier has been done since their 1st le, and Beasley doesn't even have a spot in their rotation due to his defense and IQ..

    It's pretty easy to look good playing a role around Lebron, as we have seen with our own team and Duncan in the early 2000s..
    While I agree mostly, I disagree on Battier.

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    Some time ago Diaw signed with the Spurs after the buyout, Granger could sign with the Spurs too.

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    Karl Malone used that.
    He said whoever won in '03 (Lakers/Spurs) he would go to the opposite team. Ironically winning in '03 caused us to not get him and prevented us from repeating in '04.

    The Spurs need to be faster to free agents. There are some key ones you can't let get away even if the reason is to keep them from going to a compe or. Ray Allen and Birdman are both good examples of that. If the Heat didn't get them the Spurs would have had a easier time winning the Finals.

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    Yeah I never heard the 'too much success' excuse.
    Same

    I've heard "no available minutes" excuse... could go hand in hand.

    Mostly it's that high strung "stars" don't want to be corralled by Pop and made to fall in line by the big 3.

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    He said whoever won in '03 (Lakers/Spurs) he would go to the opposite team. Ironically winning in '03 caused us to not get him and prevented us from repeating in '04.

    The Spurs need to be faster to free agents. There are some key ones you can't let get away even if the reason is to keep them from going to a compe or. Ray Allen and Birdman are both good examples of that. If the Heat didn't get them the Spurs would have had a easier time winning the Finals.
    If you don't win in 03, you cannot repeat in 04, so winning in 03 couldn't have been the reason for not repeating. Otherwise it's not ironic, it's a paradox.

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    Some time ago Diaw signed with the Spurs after the buyout, Granger could sign with the Spurs too.

    Is Granger French and good friends with Parker?

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    If he is pissed at the Pacers, he would want the opportunity to beat them in the play-offs. Miami makes the most sense. If he goes to the West, he wants to be on the team that he thinks would make it to the Finals. Sorry, but I do not think that is SA.

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    If he is pissed at the Pacers, he would want the opportunity to beat them in the play-offs. Miami makes the most sense. If he goes to the West, he wants to be on the team that he thinks would make it to the Finals. Sorry, but I do not think that is SA.
    Who's the most recent team from the west to make it to the finals?

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    Who's the most recent team from the west to make it to the finals?
    ploto hates the Spurs front office since they traded her shower nozzle fantasy man Rasho. Pretty impossible to have a rational conversation with her about the team.

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    I know Rasho's contract was bad, but damn the Spurs got ing Matt Bonner in that trade.

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    The guy has to be bought out by tomorrow right?

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