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    •On the U.S. presence in Benghazi: 0 (zip, nada) questions
    •On Ambassador Stevens and other U.S. personnel in Benghazi: 0 (zip, nada) questions

    Bull . This is not true.

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    Bull . This is not true.
    What's the REAL scandal, Darrin?

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    Wingnuts So Sad Hillz Didn’t Admit She Ordered The Code Red In Benghazi

    Here’s the best indicator of how well Hillary did: Fox was the only one of the three 24-hour cable news outfits to actually stop broadcasting the hearings live, even though it has consistently been the Benghazi Network, running over 1,100 segments on Benghazi and what a horrible thing it was.

    Once Clinton was actually mopping the floor with the committee, Fox was out of there, going with its usual afternoon talker lineup, starting with “The Five Idiots,” where Greg Gutfeld shared diet tips. We you not. (Fox did continue livestreaming the hearings on its website, though.)

    Greta Van Susteren left almost no impression on us, as usual; the only notable thing that happened during her hour was a brief return to the live feed while Rep. Jim Jordan badgered Clinton for a while about her email server, and then cut away again once Georgia Rep. Lynn Westmoreland started sharing possum recipes. Then there was a panel discussion on Paul Ryan doing speaker of the House things.

    On “The O’Reilly Factor,” Billo said the hearings wouldn’t change anyone’s mind because everyone is so darn partisan these days.

    He also said that the biggest “discovery” of the hearings was that Hillary “knew” the “Innocence of Muslims” YouTube video wasn’t the real cause of the Benghazi attack a few days earlier than she’d previously said, which doesn’t explain how she made Benghazi happen, but don’t worry about it, the wingnuts are still working out the details of their conspiracy theories.

    http://wonkette.com/595268/wingnuts-so-sad-hillz-didnt-admit-she-ordered-the-code-red-in-benghazi


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    Fact-challenged Carly Fiorina learned nothing from yesterday’s Benghazi hearings, urges GOP to intensify attacks on Clinton

    “I think there were a lot of Democrats on that committee who were focused on salvaging the nominee on their part,” she said.

    “If you just do a little thought exercise, if the shoe were on the other foot and she had been a Republican secretary of state, I’m quite sure the Democrats would be holding hearings.”



    Of course, as Clinton herself noted multiple times on Thursday, Democrats held no such hearings after previous terrorist attacks on diplomatic outposts that occurred during Republican administrations.

    But facts are not Fiorina’s strong suit, not when there are ignorant voters to be swayed by her inability to command them.

    Clinton, she argued, “never answered a fundamental question, and the fundamental question is this — knowing that this was a purposeful terrorist attack on the night it occurred, why did you go the next morning and address the American people and talk about a videotape that didn’t represent the values of America and why did you continue to do that over the bodies of the fallen and for many weeks thereafter?”

    The former Secretary of State did, of course, repeatedly answer this question, pointing to “conflicting information” from intelligence sources, not to mention statements by terrorist groups that claimed responsibility for the attack

    http://www.salon.com/2015/10/23/fact...ks_on_clinton/

    Anti-science Repugs refute science: "When you're deep in a hole, keep on diggin!"



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    What's the REAL scandal, Darrin?
    Spontaneous reaction to a YouTube video

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    Spontaneous reaction to a YouTube video
    Initial report changed when other facts were known.

    Is there any other REAL scandal, Darrin?

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    Initial report changed when other facts were known.

    lol

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    Why lol?

    Is this your REAL scandal, Darrin? That's all?

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    Am I supposed to believe a photoshop with a blatant misspelling?

    lol "your"

    Who the made that, Darrin?

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    Am I supposed to believe a photoshop with a blatant misspelling?

    lol "your"

    Who the made that, Darrin?

    Yeah, whoever transcribed that call made a mistake. Hillary did not deny making this phone call, however.

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    Yeah, whoever transcribed that call made a mistake. Hillary did not deny making this phone call, however.
    And?

    You know if you actually read the Rice transcripts from the Sunday shows, she says extremists joined in and escalated the violence and left open the possibility the extremists could have been Al Qaeda affiliated or Al Qaeda themselves.

    Where is the REAL scandal here again?

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    And?

    You know if you actually read the Rice transcripts from the Sunday shows, she says extremists joined in and escalated the violence and left open the possibility the extremists could have been Al Qaeda affiliated or Al Qaeda themselves.

    Where is the REAL scandal here again?

    They (Obama, Hillary, Rice, Carney) lied about it because it was just before the election.

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    They (Obama, Hillary, Rice, Carney) lied about it because it was just before the election.
    About what?

    Obama said it was a terror attack on 9/12 and Rice said it was a terror attack that could have been carried out by terrorist organizations that Sunday.

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    Sleazy



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    About what?

    Obama said it was a terror attack on 9/12 and Rice said it was a terror attack that could have been carried out by terrorist organizations that Sunday.

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    Why did the video leave out this from 9/12?

    No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.
    Partisan hackery.

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    Hm, Carney's last statement was cut too:

    Well, I think we wait to hear from administration officials. Again, it's actively under investigation, both the Benghazi attack and incidents elsewhere. And my point was that we don't have and did not have concrete evidence to suggest that this was not in reaction to the film. But we’re obviously investigating the matter, and I’ll certainly -- I’m sure both the Department of Defense and the White House and other places will have more to say about that as more information becomes available.
    Turns out they had more to say about that as more information became available.

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    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015.../?intcmp=hpbt3

    Diary entry from Benghazi victim’s dad: ‘I gave Hillary a hug,’ she blamed filmmaker

    A day after new records were made public showing Hillary Clinton said from the start the 2012 Benghazi attack was not linked to an obscure anti-Islam film, the father of a former Navy SEAL killed that night told Fox News she blamed the filmmaker for his son's death in a conversation with him.

    Charles Woods, father of Ty Woods, who died defending the CIA annex, shared with Fox News the diary notes he took after his encounter with Clinton during the ceremony on Sept. 14, 2012, when the bodies were flown back to the U.S.

    "I gave Hillary a hug and shook her hand. And she said we are going to have the film maker arrested who was responsible for the death of my son," the entry says.

    "She said -- the filmmaker who was responsible for the death of your son," Woods emphasized as he read his diary entry. Woods attended Thursday's hearing where the former secretary of state testified to the Benghazi congressional committee.

    "She wasn't saying the failed foreign policy that I was responsible for. It wasn't her taking the blame for it. It says we are going to place the responsibility [for] the death of your son on the filmmaker," he said.

    Woods' account of what Clinton told him contradicts what then-Secretary Clinton reported to her own family, as well as senior Libyan and Egyptian government officials.

    Citing an email Clinton sent to her daughter Chelsea the night of the attack, Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, said at Thursday's hearing that she told them, "Two officers were killed today in Benghazi by an Al Qaeda-like group.''

    Further, Jordan said she told the Egyptian prime minister the next day that they knew the attack was "planned" and had "nothing to do with the film."

    One day after then-U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice said on five Sunday talk shows that the attack grew out of a protest over the film, Fox News was first to report on Sept. 17, 2012, based on an intelligence source on the ground in Libya, that there was no protest outside the Benghazi consulate.

    Yet, at the hearing, Clinton blamed the "fog of war" for confusion about what happened, and conflicting accounts, though her own statements to her family and foreign government leaders suggest otherwise.

    And she pushed back on the notion that she directly blamed the video, stressing that she said in a statement that night that some had sought to use the video to justify the attack.

    "I used those words deliberately, not to ascribe a motive to every attacker but as a warning to those across the region that there was no justification for further attacks," she said.

    She said they were dealing with "fluid" and "fast-moving" and "conflicting" information that night. She also said there were probably many motivations, suggesting the video may still have motivated some attackers.

    Woods said Clinton either lied to her family and senior leaders of foreign governments, or to the victims' families and the American people. He said her lack of candor disqualifies Clinton from being promoted to the nation's top job.

    "In order to follow a leader, as a commander-in-chief, the military needs to trust what their leader says. They're putting lives on the line. They have to know that what she says is true in order for them to be able to sacrifice their lives," Woods said.

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    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015.../?intcmp=hpbt3

    Diary entry from Benghazi victim’s dad: ‘I gave Hillary a hug,’ she blamed filmmaker

    A day after new records were made public showing Hillary Clinton said from the start the 2012 Benghazi attack was not linked to an obscure anti-Islam film, the father of a former Navy SEAL killed that night told Fox News she blamed the filmmaker for his son's death in a conversation with him.

    Charles Woods, father of Ty Woods, who died defending the CIA annex, shared with Fox News the diary notes he took after his encounter with Clinton during the ceremony on Sept. 14, 2012, when the bodies were flown back to the U.S.

    "I gave Hillary a hug and shook her hand. And she said we are going to have the film maker arrested who was responsible for the death of my son," the entry says.

    "She said -- the filmmaker who was responsible for the death of your son," Woods emphasized as he read his diary entry. Woods attended Thursday's hearing where the former secretary of state testified to the Benghazi congressional committee.

    "She wasn't saying the failed foreign policy that I was responsible for. It wasn't her taking the blame for it. It says we are going to place the responsibility [for] the death of your son on the filmmaker," he said.

    Woods' account of what Clinton told him contradicts what then-Secretary Clinton reported to her own family, as well as senior Libyan and Egyptian government officials.

    Citing an email Clinton sent to her daughter Chelsea the night of the attack, Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, said at Thursday's hearing that she told them, "Two officers were killed today in Benghazi by an Al Qaeda-like group.''

    Further, Jordan said she told the Egyptian prime minister the next day that they knew the attack was "planned" and had "nothing to do with the film."

    One day after then-U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice said on five Sunday talk shows that the attack grew out of a protest over the film, Fox News was first to report on Sept. 17, 2012, based on an intelligence source on the ground in Libya, that there was no protest outside the Benghazi consulate.

    Yet, at the hearing, Clinton blamed the "fog of war" for confusion about what happened, and conflicting accounts, though her own statements to her family and foreign government leaders suggest otherwise.

    And she pushed back on the notion that she directly blamed the video, stressing that she said in a statement that night that some had sought to use the video to justify the attack.

    "I used those words deliberately, not to ascribe a motive to every attacker but as a warning to those across the region that there was no justification for further attacks," she said.

    She said they were dealing with "fluid" and "fast-moving" and "conflicting" information that night. She also said there were probably many motivations, suggesting the video may still have motivated some attackers.

    Woods said Clinton either lied to her family and senior leaders of foreign governments, or to the victims' families and the American people. He said her lack of candor disqualifies Clinton from being promoted to the nation's top job.

    "In order to follow a leader, as a commander-in-chief, the military needs to trust what their leader says. They're putting lives on the line. They have to know that what she says is true in order for them to be able to sacrifice their lives," Woods said.
    What did this guy think the video maker would be charged with?

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    Hm, Carney's last statement was cut too:

    Well, I think we wait to hear from administration officials. Again, it's actively under investigation, both the Benghazi attack and incidents elsewhere. And my point was that we don't have and did not have concrete evidence to suggest that this was not in reaction to the film. But we’re obviously investigating the matter, and I’ll certainly -- I’m sure both the Department of Defense and the White House and other places will have more to say about that as more information becomes available.
    Turns out they had more to say about that as more information became available.


    They knew it had nothing to do with the video.

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    They knew it had nothing to do with the video.
    And you think their plan was to sell that for several months after initially calling it an act of terror?

    lol conspiracy!

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    RPG's and mortars? Could be a spontaneous demonstration by pissed off YouTube critics.

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    And you think their plan was to sell that for several months after initially calling it an act of terror?

    lol conspiracy!

    I get that this is a non-issue for you.

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