Patty Mills shoulder injury true - out 7 months

[DesignatedT]

This is true, but he may not have to. We have guys who can defend on that side of the court, Cojo for one.

Putting all your eggs in one basket is scary to me. Cojo will have a lot of pressure on him considering he's pretty much the only guy on the bench who can come in and provide decent minutes defending opposing guards.

[jARS mEsH sEt]

My guess pre-injury was $3.75M/year. Post-injury I say the Spurs will give him 2 years/$4.5M ($2.25M/year).

[xmas1997]

They just signed Cotton to a two year deal, but I think he will go to the Toros to develop.

[spurraider21]

The exception, not the rule. Do I have to break out the Bonner and Tiago dunk vids to show the meaninglessness of this one in proving a trend?

you mean Ibaka Killer and Dirk/Aldridge stopper?

[Mal]

Resign or re-sign?

Of course re-sign Thankfully, whole context was right.

[spurraider21]

trade daye back for nando

[tholdren]

trade daye back for nando

marco, corey, ayers, daye for dragic

[024]

Give Mills a two year deal with an opt out next year.

But damn, he played through the playoffs without injury? Makes his plays even more impressive.

[waisman]

Bryce Cotton !?
PG !?!?!?!?!

I cannot understand.

[Drom John]

The Spurs should sign Patty on the first day possible so the Spurs can pay for and supervise the the surgery and rehab.

[Boomersgold]

He clearly proved himself worthy of a decent contract extension. His energy, as much or more than his three point shooting, is his value.

Here's the thing about how we replace him until whenever he comes back...he is a SHOOTING GUARD, not a point guard. When Manu was on the floor as he was last year and will be this year, he is the actual point guard of the second unit. Patty (or whomever) was charged with bringing the ball up the court to minimize the wear and tear on Manu. His first pass (assuming that he did pass) was virtually always to Manu, who would then run the offense, figure out what the defense was going to give us, and then do his thing, which occasionally involved passing it right back to Patty.

But the point of all of the above is that we will still have Manu this year, but not after (more than likely). Soooooo, that says to me that we have to put a point guard into development post haste, because after Manu is gone Mills' limitations as a true point guard (seeing the court, figuring out the defense, etc.) will be exposed. We will still need him as a shooting guard in the second team, but the role that Manu has played is the one we have to be focusing on.

So by that logic, Parker is also considered to be a shooting guard. Whenever they were on the floor together, Parker would bring the ball up the floor, pass it to Manu and then race to the corner, allowing Manu to initiate the plays. Manu's simply the best play maker on the team; Pop knows this and wants the ball in his hands. Even Parker has to defer to him.

You forget that Manu missed 14 games last season, and the Spurs still won without him. Mills wasn't as exposed as you say he was.

[Aztecfan03]

Joseph is two months younger than Kawhi and has had three years with the Spurs to show he could do something, anything at an above average NBA level. He is what he is, a palatable defender and subpar at every other facet of the game. Spurs were in good hands with Patty and Cojo backing up Parker, but with only Cojo, if TP goes down or needs rest we're screwed.

Cory Joseph has had three years to prove he's more than a serviceable third-string PG and he hasn't. That's the end of the story.

yeah i was adding an extra year to kawhi for some reason but CoJo hasn't really been given much of a chance to prove to the fans much yet because of the emergence of Patty.

[davidbowie]

poor guy

[Holden_Caulfield]

do we get a roster exception if we re sign him?

[ChumpDumper]

do we get a roster exception if we re sign him?

Nope. He's not missing the whole season.

[ducks]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · 6m

Free agent CJ Miles has agreed to 4-year, $18M deal with Pacers, league source tells Yahoo. @CandaceDBuckner 1st reported an agreement.

[EVAY]

So by that logic, Parker is also considered to be a shooting guard. Whenever they were on the floor together, Parker would bring the ball up the floor, pass it to Manu and then race to the corner, allowing Manu to initiate the plays. Manu's simply the best play maker on the team; Pop knows this and wants the ball in his hands. Even Parker has to defer to him.

You forget that Manu missed 14 games last season, and the Spurs still won without him. Mills wasn't as exposed as you say he was.

I don't really feel that this distinction rises to the level of a big difference.

Tbh, when Parker was on the floor with Manu, he really often WAS used as the shooting guard, especially late in the season when his fatigue was getting to be a major factor. That line-up (Parker and Manu in the backcourt without Tim at the same time), was relatively rare and was another way to space the floor. In those situations, you would see Parker move to the corner as a potential three point shooter (and posters in this forum would ask what the Parker was doing in that position). I don't think that Pop's occasional forays into odd line-ups is an occasional for logical challenges.

Oddly enough, many Spurs are occasionally asked to play different positions. The fact that over 90% of the Spurs' offensive sets with the starting crew begin with Parker giving the ball to Tim and then beginning a loop or initiating a cut and drive back offensive set doesn't allow for ANY logical conclusion that he wasn't the guy setting the offense. The same cannot honestly be said for Mills' role in the second unit.

I am/was not trying to undercut Mills. I hope we get him back and I am thrilled that we had him this year. I am simply pointing out what, to me, was his primary contribution, and it was not the same as Parker's.

And btw, the Spurs won last year with virtually EVERYONE missing except for Kawhi. Pointing out that we won in Manu's absence as an indicator that Mills is good at setting the Spurs' offense does not logically follow.

[Spurtacus]

I feel bad for him since he was due for a solid pay day. But this obviously increases the Spurs chances to re-sign him. Sounds like best case scenario he'll be back by All-Star break.

[EVAY]

I am blown away by Mills' level of play with an injury that will result in surgery to repair. The guy was just a total warrior for us, and I hope and believe that he will be 'taken care' of by the organization.

[poeticism707]

Just come back to the Spurs,

and get 100% Patty.

Spurs may get a discount now,

BUT THEY BETTER

RESIGN PATTY.

[G-Dawgg]

So in other words, Patty will be a non-factor for the Spurs next year with this injury. He will likely not be in game shape and would have fallen out if the rotation. If that's the case why re-sign him if he can't help? Bring in this Cotton kid and let Patty walk.....

[superbigtime]

Teams are overpaying for mediocre unproven players left and right. Spurs need to strike now with both Patty and Boris. Getting especially antsy about Boris. Word out per Ticket 760 is that he wants about 2yr/20mill which is steep. Better use that Patty injury coupon quickly.

[Mel_13]

I bet patty get a 2 yr 7mil
deal.

From who?

3 years 10 million

An healthy Nate Robinson got 2M per year... Mills should be signed to the minimum imo in that situation...

Patty is better than Nate. Also, spurs pay for goodwill and players reward then with loyalty.

Meh they refused to pay Neal... They're loyal to the big 3...

You're comparing apples to oranges. This is a completely different scenario.

Not really, people who expect role players to be treated the same way as core players are mistaken...

I didn't see anyone say that Mills would be treated the same as Duncan.

He'll be taken care of by the Spurs.

Neal went from playing at the Y to making 3 mil per because of the spurs. What are you crying about?

You said he should be signed for the minimum.

Ideally yeah, imo it's a satisfying solution for both parties...

You're mistaken...

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
Deal for Spurs' Patty Mills, I'm told, is in $12 million range over three years. One of my heroes @Buck_SA first reported the agreement

[KL2]

I'm not too worried about this injury, all it means is guys will have to step up, this is Cojo's chance, Cotton, even Kyle Anderson. SA can become an even better team because of this injury, they've done it before.

[ironman2886]

So the Patty deal is done? Good news.