Church of JaMychal Green

[jyra]

I think it's possible that the Spurs wanted to sign him to a multi year non guaranteed contract close to the minimum (basically like a second round pick). Green could be looking for more guaranteed money or a deal that only lasts until the end of the season to keep his flexibility. With seemingly many other teams interested in him it makes sense to take a chance somewhere else.

[exstatic]

How come Memphis got him on a 10 day contract, but the Spurs couldn't "come to terms" with Green for a second ten-day contract? Green probably wanted to sign with a real contender.

Uh, no. They weren't working on a second 10 day, they were working on a real deal. When it became apparent that a deal wasn't going to be reached, there is no point in signing him to a second 10 day. Standard procedure is a contract for the rest of the year, guaranteed since we're past the cut date, and a non-guaranteed contract second year. JMG and his agent may have balked at that, but good luck trying anywhere to get just guaranteed money this year and free agency this summer. No one wants to put development time into a player they may only have for a few months.

[Mr Bones]

The reason the Spurs are a great organization is because they see the big picture. The reason most posters on Spurstalk aren't great is because they spend an inordinate amount of time arguing about the 15th guy on the team.

[exstatic]

The reason the Spurs are a great organization is because they see the big picture. The reason most posters on Spurstalk aren't great is because they spend an inordinate amount of time arguing about the 15th guy on the team.

Troof bomb.

[Chinook]

Uh, no. They weren't working on a second 10 day, they were working on a real deal. When it became apparent that a deal wasn't going to be reached, there is no point in signing him to a second 10 day. Standard procedure is a contract for the rest of the year, guaranteed since we're past the cut date, and a non-guaranteed contract second year. JMG and his agent may have balked at that, but good luck trying anywhere to get just guaranteed money this year and free agency this summer. No one wants to put development time into a player they may only have for a few months.

Yeah, but Green can always get a non-guaranteed min deal. For all we know, the Spurs were only offering a three-year deal like Philly gave to McDaniels. A lot of things go into the negotiation besides the agent being misguided.

Again, though, Green wasn't very good. No need to worry about this.

[Mel_13]

Yeah, but Green can always get a non-guaranteed min deal. For all we know, the Spurs were only offering a three-year deal like Philly gave to McDaniels. A lot of things go into the negotiation besides the agent being misguided.

True. It used to be the standard that a DLeaguer would have to take an unguaranteed second year as the price of signing for the remainder of the year. Think back to last summer and how some of those players, or more precisely their contracts, were used as ballast in multiple trades. Then they were cut by the last team to hold their contract, while being off the market for all or most of the summer. I would imagine that being a free agent from the beginning of the summer is a much better situation for most of these players.

[ceperez]

If the Spurs have contract issues with J. Green this early then the odds that there are more contract issues in the future are likely. Best to cut him and see how he does elsewhere.

Anthony Tolliver is one of those Spurs that made a decent living even after being cut by the Spurs.

[TheGreatYacht]

21 &10 tonight against the Brow.

Matt Bonner

[DenialTwist]

"The one that got away" Wish they had kept him, he would be very useful against the Dubs and OKC.

[SAGirl]

[sasaint]

Rubbing salt in old wounds?

[SAGirl]

Rubbing salt in old wounds?

Just checking tweeter for news in that guys' account.. a lot of stuff about Jazz/Mavs (He's a Mavs' centered reporter)... I found a lot of interest about George Hill... he's likely staying put in Utah, by his interview... and then saw that tweet. He should have been signed and Ayers let go... such is life.

[Raven]

Good for him, I didn't expect him to get this good.

[Austin_Toros]

JaMychal has three point range and isn't afraid to shoot. I wish the Spurs kept him instead of Anderson.

[TheGreatYacht]

Jeff Ayres and Matt Bonner

[Solid D]

I wonder if Cavstalk fans have bumped old Danny Green threads over the years.

[ceperez]

Jeff Ayres and Matt Bonner

exactly... don't know why they didn't unload Ayres when they had the chance.

[sasaint]

Jeff Ayres and Matt Bonner

Misplaced. Like shooting the actors instead of the author of the play.

[Obstructed_View]

JaMychal has three point range and isn't afraid to shoot. I wish the Spurs kept him instead of Anderson.

Yeah, his stat line from tonight's game looks nothing like Kyle's.

[SAGirl]

Yeah, his stat line from tonight's game looks nothing like Kyle's.

This was him tonight...

Grizzlies

starters	MIN	FG	3PT	FT	OREB	DREB	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TO	PF	+/-	PTS
J. Green	17	1-3	0-1	0-0	0	0	0	1	0	2	2	5	-10	2

he was up against the Clippers though...

He was benched early... He's probably a good bench player but shouldn't be starting when James Ennis (a journeyman) had a better game against the Clippers and played 36 minutes. Still better than Ayers though... and Daye... which was my point at the time.

[Obstructed_View]

This was him tonight...

Grizzlies

starters	MIN	FG	3PT	FT	OREB	DREB	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TO	PF	+/-	PTS
J. Green	17	1-3	0-1	0-0	0	0	0	1	0	2	2	5	-10	2

he was up against the Clippers though...

He was benched early... He's probably a good bench player but shouldn't be starting when James Ennis (a journeyman) had a better game against the Clippers and played 36 minutes. Still better than Ayers though... and Daye... which was my point at the time.

Except that I'm pretty sure he was on the same team with all three of them and they were all better than he was. Really happy for him that he managed to stick with a team, but let's not pretend he was anything other than an NBA body when he was in the organization.

[SAGirl]

Except that I'm pretty sure he was on the same team with all three of them and they were all better than he was. Really happy for him that he managed to stick with a team, but let's not pretend he was anything other than an NBA body when he was in the organization.

At the timem, he wouldn't have changed matters I agree... but he was both younger and played better than the other two IMO. He has stuck around and the other two are gone. He probably should not be starting, but he's an NBA player... I have been wrong b4... but I did think Jamychal was going to be an NBA player (Ayers never looked like one to me, or Daye)... To me they were just retained bc they were under contract...

[objective]

Ayres and Daye ... if a team is having four and five year vets with dozens of starts and thousands of minutes in the NBA between them go to summer league ... then it's time for the team to come to its senses and just cut those guys, they obviously can't play

[Obstructed_View]

At the timem, he wouldn't have changed matters I agree... but he was both younger and played better than the other two IMO. He has stuck around and the other two are gone. He probably should not be starting, but he's an NBA player... I have been wrong b4... but I did think Jamychal was going to be an NBA player (Ayers never looked like one to me, or Daye)... To me they were just retained bc they were under contract...

Well I'd have probably preferred keeping him over Daye, just because Green worked harder, and I didn't believe that Daye was ever going to give any effort beyond what he'd always done. Green getting to play for an injury-riddled Grizzlies team was the perfect gig. Nobody behind him, no threat of losing minutes, no expectations. Probably safe to say he would not have grown as much in the Spurs' system.

Ayers wasn't a great player, but he was solid enough to eat up minutes to save the other bigs in the rotation, which was all that was asked of him. Green certainly couldn't have done that.

I'm not sure there's any way to justify the opinion that he played better than both of them, tho. Daye would have been ripe for someone with a pulse to give Pop a reason to cut him.

[SAGirl]

We will just disagree. I thought Ayers was awful and Daye only brought streaky shooting at the cost of defense. Green is a rotation player. Ayers never had Green shooting or he'd still be in the league and he had awful hands or he'd still be in the league as well. Daye.. He only had bad shooting going for him.

Ill share some I interviews Spurs gave about him that I found last playoffs, Danny said Spurs wanted him midseason but ended up with Reggie bc they were looking for shooting at a different position... It's too late at night to dig that up, but Spurs had some buyers remorse and wanted him after cutting Daye...