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    Us getting him was basically a pipedream...I knew he'd get paid. He got $33 million over 4 years - no way we could've afforded that.
    He averaged 5.2 points and 3.8 rebounds last year and it's not like he's improving (9 years in the league).

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    I'm acutally surprised fans aren't seeing a major issue/hole in the guard position..

    after aldridge acquisition, that should be the next step.

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    What about Jeff Withey? I remember the guy doing some nice things with the Pelicans. They didn't tender him because they handed out so much money to their front court (like $230 Million to their top four bigs). But their loss could be the Spurs' gain. His per-36 numbers last season were 14/9/2/1/3. 17.6 PER. I'll take that for the min or close to it. A one-year deal wouldn't be horrible, because the Spurs would have matching rights next off-season.

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    I'm acutally surprised fans aren't seeing a major issue/hole in the guard position..

    after aldridge acquisition, that should be the next step.
    Maybe if you'd read threads you'd see it?

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    I'm acutally surprised fans aren't seeing a major issue/hole in the guard position..

    after aldridge acquisition, that should be the next step.
    no big deal, we have KL, he can do anything.

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    Great deal for the Knicks.

    For the Spurs, I'd expect Tim at $5m (potentially with some "unlikely" bonuses merged in, and exact deal depends upon cap), LJC signed, Manu renounced (Room) then LMA, Kawhi, Green signed, CoJo moves on.

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    For a 5th wing, It's either some kind of Weems/ Ellington option, or release then resign Williams is the best we can do.

    3rd PG I'd look at Donald Sloan, Nate Wolters, Huertas or anyone the Spurs like - Slim pickings for a 3rd PG.

    Bigs seems to be West/ Seraphin. I'd imagine some Anderson at PF, which fills in some minutes. Need a back up 5, though that could just be West (Not a 5, but he's better than any min C FA)

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    For the Spurs, I'd expect Tim at $5m (potentially with some "unlikely" bonuses merged in, and exact deal depends upon cap),
    Duncan is underpaid at $15 million, really underpaid at $10 million and $5 million is just ridiculous.

    But that seems to be where we're headed. Duncan must be going for sainthood.

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    Duncan is underpaid at $15 million, really underpaid at $10 million and $5 million is just ridiculous.

    But that seems to be where we're headed. Duncan must be going for sainthood.
    Forget saint, Duncan is a ing GOD.

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    What about Jeff Withey? I remember the guy doing some nice things with the Pelicans. They didn't tender him because they handed out so much money to their front court (like $230 Million to their top four bigs). But their loss could be the Spurs' gain. His per-36 numbers last season were 14/9/2/1/3. 17.6 PER. I'll take that for the min or close to it. A one-year deal wouldn't be horrible, because the Spurs would have matching rights next off-season.
    Actually he was tendered by NO, but that QO was rescinded after the splurge occurred. Looks like a shot-blocker with a bit of an offensive game.




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    Yeah, didn't think it was realistic until recently. He deserves more, though that's the easiest way to see the big pieces all coming together. Unlikely bonuses were trying to think of things he didn't do last year (thus, unlikely) though might in 15/16 to give his salary a bump. I don't think I've made a mistake in understanding of how that impacts on the cap.

    For example, Tim Duncan gets a bonus if he blocks 2 or more shots per game. He blocked 151 in 77 games last year, so it's unlikely, though he could get 2 a game. I doubt he really cares about the extra 500k that'd be tacked on though.

    Other option would be the S&T to Portland (Inc Baynes, Splitter as outgoing in 4 way, Odd assets to other teams to participate) so you could pay TD more.

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    I'm acutally surprised fans aren't seeing a major issue/hole in the guard position..

    after aldridge acquisition, that should be the next step.
    Actually, I've mentioned that. The dream scenario is signing Lin for the RE or min with an opt out after 1 year then pay him the second + years.

    Sup TimVP!!!

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    Actually, I've mentioned that. The dream scenario is signing Lin for the RE or min with an opt out after 1 year then pay him the second + years.

    Sup TimVP!!!
    No ING LIN!

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    Why? He'd be another key to another championship. Tired of hanging banners?

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    4th and 5th big, filler guard and 3rd string PG are the needs

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    On Withey: Kind of depends on if Tavares is part of the Tiago deal. Two massive C only players at the end of the roster is odd.

    If Hawks got Tavares to have Tavares, I'd be fine with Withey. He's competent, which is good for the minimum.

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    Give me West or Seraphin..and a Delfino or Ellington. Bring back Manu and bring over LJC (Assuming he just dosent ing suck in the summer league), and fille out the rest with With our second rounder...Cady something (drunk as right now), and other young players.

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    I like this dream roster / depth chart:

    PG: Parker / Lin / Mills
    SG: Green / Ginobili / Mills
    SF: Leonard / K Anderson / LJC (if he can handle the SF position)
    PF: Aldridge / West / Diaw
    C: Duncan / Diaw / Bonner (min + fully non-guaranteed so we can cut him if a true C becomes available or as needed)

    That is 13 roster spots with room for the buy-out market for a true center.
    Bolded are players for whom we'd need to come to an agreement.

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    I'm warming on the Jeremy Lin idea. Hes definitely a flawed player...but for such a cheap contract its hard to object. And the pickings are definitely slim. But he'd be a solid enough option I think.

    I think Livio Jean-Charles is probably in the mix also, however.

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    Lin is a scrub. Don't need him or his delusional fans anywhere near the Spurs.

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    Why? He'd be another key to another championship. Tired of hanging banners?
    Key to what, the janitor's closet? He's ing terrible.

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    Lin is a scrub. Don't need him or his delusional fans anywhere near the Spurs.
    A ing men

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    Lin is someone maybe worth looking at if Manu retires. He gets irrational hate (most likely due to all the attention he's gotten despite not being anything too special), but he's really not a bad player. He's only effective with the ball in his hands though, so I don't see him fitting well alongside Manu. Plus, I don't think he'd sign for the minimum anyways. I also saw that Dallas was having talks with him, and I'm sure he'd rather go there and start if he were to take a smaller deal. No way he comes here, so I'd get that out of your head.

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    ^^ If the Spurs lose Ginobili, I'd rather find a way to keep Joseph rather than get Lin, since money wouldn't be the issue if we're assuming Lin would agree to join SA..

    They have a similar style of play, Joseph has more potential, too, just has to find his balls..

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    Key to what, the janitor's closet? He's ing terrible.

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    Way I see it, team needs a backup center to replace Baynes and another shooter to replace Belinelli. They're going to need some pieces to replace Ayres (LaLanne helps in this regard), a shooting big to replace Bonner, and possibly a cheap PG to replace Joseph if they renounce him. My personal choices are:

    Backup C:
    Kevin Seraphin
    Boban Marjanovic
    Greg Smith
    Joel Freeland
    Bernard James

    SG/Shooter:
    Alan Anderson
    Omri Casspi
    Carlos Delfino
    Marcus Thornton
    John Jenkins

    Ayres replacement:
    Cady LaLanne
    Kevin Seraphin
    Greg Smith
    Joel Freeland
    Quincy Acy

    Shooting big:
    Andrea Bargnani
    Chris Copeland
    Jason Smith
    Matt Bonner
    Jonas Jerebko

    Joseph replacement:
    Donald Sloan
    Bryce Cotton
    Marcelo Huertas
    Nate Wolters
    Will Cherry

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