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    Summer league is a small sample in a new system playing with guys you don't know, the spurs know him from a couple of d'league seasons. Apparently he's gotten better from one season to the next. Not saying the guy will be a revelation or anything like that, who knows? but certainly summer league by itself can be misleading. Ballhandling was an issue for him in the d'league and I just noticed the same problem in summer league. I think he will be ok for an end of the bench guy.
    Did you see him play in Austin?

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    i don't expect anything from him, but i think it's positive that the spurs keep showing that their dleague team matters.

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    KA played in 31 games last year as a rookie. He may spend time in Austin, but I wouldn't be surprised to see his minutes increase this year. He was good enough to eat some minutes last year.
    He averaged 10.8 minutes per game. A lot of those were either blowouts or tinkering to see if he had anything to offer. He played a total of 357 minutes last season. About 7 1/2 complete games. I'm sure he'll get some burn this year too for the same reasons, but thats not eating up any significant or substantial time on the floor. Spread across an entire 82 game season thats a little more than 4 minutes a night.

    So I understand what you're saying and all, but that doesn't scream dependable, reliable or consequential to me.

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    Did you see him play in Austin?
    Yup. I watched all the February games when the Spurs went on their losing rodeos trip and were in a slump. Too depressing. I wanted to check how Anderson was doing since he was player of the month. I saw a lot of Simmons. He Had. Kind of MAnu role since he was 6th man coming from the bench. He could get his own shot and was athletic. Ballhandling was a big problem. Austin last year had serious TO issues around 18-20 a game was common. It got worse when they lost Cotton and quite frankly went on a losing streak. Despite being tiny Cotton was special in the d'league.

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    I'm wondering how big a role his transition D played in his signing. The highlight video (admittedly, all I've ever seen of him) is basically all dunks and chase-down blocks.

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    I understand Anderson has not looked great in the summer league. But come on man. Don't blow it up to be like he is useless. The guy has had NBA reps and has produced. He is a solid backup for Leonard. But I agree I would like to see another win added as I think Manu will be saved a lot through the season.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl0xwsFkDtY
    He played 33 games last year with an average of 10.8 minutes. His totals in points (2.2), rebounds (2.2), and assists (0.8) don't really bother me that much. It's a small sample size and you have to expect small numbers. But the shooting percentages are pretty hard to look at. He shot 34.8% from the field, 27.3% from 3 and 64.3% from the line. I understand thats also on a small sample size, but as a bit player his sample size is never going to be a large one in any given game. Thats just how it is. The totals might be small, but the shooting percentages have to be at least respectable. And his 2-12 shooting night yesterday shows that those woes are still persistent.

    So, yes, he does have NBA reps. But he hasn't produced on any level that a player should exactly be proud of.

    And no, he isn't a solid backup for anyone. Hes a major project that needs to be stashed in Austin for another season with the hope that he might be good enough to get on the court later in the year or next season.

    That being said, the fact that hes a project isn't exactly a surprise. Everybody knew that when he was drafted. It was commonly touted that he was probably a couple of years away because his game would need a pretty substantial overhaul to make him viable in the NBA. So why are we trying to rush him into a backup role? Hes not ready. As an NBA player hes actual pretty terrible right now. He might have promise...he might have tools...but they're still very rough.

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    He averaged 10.8 minutes per game. A lot of those were either blowouts or tinkering to see if he had anything to offer. He played a total of 357 minutes last season. About 7 1/2 complete games. I'm sure he'll get some burn this year too for the same reasons, but thats not eating up any significant or substantial time on the floor. Spread across an entire 82 game season thats a little more than 4 minutes a night.

    So I understand what you're saying and all, but that doesn't scream dependable, reliable or consequential to me.
    Whether he played in blowouts or not doesn't seem all that relevant. Actually, that's pretty much the definition of a minute eater, right? You don't throw a rookie into the fire of big games. You let him eat the minutes in games Kawhi isn't as needed. Kawhi is young and relatively healthy. Hopefully, this year more so. He can probably play more than 30 minutes a game, but let's just say 30. That leaves 1476 to be backed up. That 357 that you dismiss so readily is just over 24% of the available minutes at backup even at 30 minutes a game for Kawhi. As a rookie, I repeat. That is not such an insignificant amount, and should KA's number of games played increase, as one might image they could, and Kawhi actually plays more than 30 minutes a game, as he might, it is really easy to see that KA could actually be eating up 50% of those available minutes all by himself in his second year without actually making his footprint on the game all that more noticeable.

    Danny, Manu, Boris, and Simmons should be able to handle the rest.

    I hope they can get another 2/3, also, and I am sure they're aware. I am not too worried about it.

    KA's bad summer league games 1 and 3 have people overly on edge, I think.

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    This was/is a good thread.

    Kinda what I was expecting from this site... in my dreams.
    Thanks for the contributions.

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    Is Simmons going to be the replacement for Belinelli?

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    Whether he played in blowouts or not doesn't seem all that relevant. Actually, that's pretty much the definition of a minute eater, right? You don't throw a rookie into the fire of big games. You let him eat the minutes in games Kawhi isn't as needed. Kawhi is young and relatively healthy. Hopefully, this year more so. He can probably play more than 30 minutes a game, but let's just say 30. That leaves 1476 to be backed up. That 357 that you dismiss so readily is just over 24% of the available minutes at backup even at 30 minutes a game for Kawhi. As a rookie, I repeat. That is not such an insignificant amount, and should KA's number of games played increase, as one might image they could, and Kawhi actually plays more than 30 minutes a game, as he might, it is really easy to see that KA could actually be eating up 50% of those available minutes all by himself in his second year without actually making his footprint on the game all that more noticeable.

    Danny, Manu, Boris, and Simmons should be able to handle the rest.

    I hope they can get another 2/3, also, and I am sure they're aware. I am not too worried about it.

    KA's bad summer league games 1 and 3 have people overly on edge, I think.
    Yes, he was in those games. But he wasn't exactly successful while he was there. Not by any measure. Just because you show up doesn't mean you're useful. If we just want somebody that can stand on the court for 10 minutes a game then we could literally sign anybody. But the team wants somebody that can come on the floor and produce something of consequence. Thats what you want in a minutes eater. Anybody can be present on the floor. Thats not an accomplishment. So pointing to the fact that he was on the floor for 357 minutes last year is all good and well - but what did he do in that time? How did he help? His shooting numbers are pretty putrid, and his defense is well below the league average at his position. The answer is "not much."

    KA's bad summer league games 1 and 3 have people overly on edge, I think.
    It's not just his bad summer league. His whole season last year was pretty much terrible. I understand his rookie season was totally forgettable - but try to remember just how bad he was.

    Danny, Manu, Boris, and Simmons should be able to handle the rest.
    Boris is not going to play any 3. Those days are long past.
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    Where's ChumpPumper?

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    can dribble and drive better than danny. has a nice eurostep. hopefully he develops into a good role player

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    Looks amazing in the highlights. But its the highlights tho..

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    Chump just updated his FB (you can find it through Kori's page)

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    Parker, Mills, McCallum
    Green, Ginobili, Simmons
    Leonard, Anderson
    Aldridge, Diaw, Bonner
    Duncan, West, Marjanovic


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    most satisfying roster in years

    we're stacked......
    That's a tax team with one open spot for an experienced wing.

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    Chump just updated his FB (you can find it through Kori's page)
    inb4 ban

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    Looks good. But its the D-LEAGUE

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    Bonner isn't signed. Hes a Free agent.

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    i hope Matt Bonner returns, i kinda like him, good at ude and excellent trifecta guy

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    we're ready to go.....

    im excited mostly about LaMarcus, West and Marjanovic.....

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    Matt Bonner is probably not coming. At least not immediately.

    The Spurs really need another swingman to boost up their roster. After that they'll be at 14 players and they probably will keep that last spot open for a bought out player or a d-league callup.

    But I doubt Bonner plays anywhere else. He probably sits on the sidelines, ready to sign up if the Spurs need another big mid season.

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    Matt Bonner is probably not coming. At least not immediately.

    The Spurs really need another swingman to boost up their roster. After that they'll be at 14 players and they probably will keep that last spot open for a bought out player or a d-league callup.

    But I doubt Bonner plays anywhere else. He probably sits on the sidelines, ready to sign up if the Spurs need another big mid season.

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    im cool with that, he could even be part of management, or a scout

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    Funny thing about you tube is you can find highlights but, not lowlights. I guess Jonathan Simmons 2-year D-league career can be summed up in 2 minutes and 12 seconds..
    yep. calm down. he was a meh college player and stuck in the d-league for 2 years. Looks like he has work ethic - juco to college then d league to spurs, but I don't see him coming in and playing. Using him as a hustle practice player and maybe some garbage minutes? KA scare tactic? or reward for good character and hard work? i say all of the above.

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    so, gentlemen, we are set for one of the most unique rosters in Spurs history

    whatya all think about our chances, neh?

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    Simmons:

    well need someone to play in the fourth quarter for those blown out games, games where we destroy the opposition

    lets like this signing guys, already the best offseason ever

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