The era of the white QB is coming to a close, tbh

[Avante]

One play.....hahahahaha!!!!!!!! ROOKIE~~~~~~~~~~~ Dude, Usian Bolt has lost a 100m, ok slugger? Muhammad Ali has lost a fight.

Let's look at Eli at the same stage of his career as RW, ok rookie?

His best...

comp % 57.7, RW...68.1
yards 3562, RW...4024
INT's combined...64, RW...34
QB rating, 86.4, RW...110.1

Dude, do you EVER get anything right?

Eli throws up a mini Hail Mary, the ball magically gets stuck on a helmet, hahahahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Avante]

There stands Eli Manning, it's third and two. Will he pass or handoff?

There stands Russell Wilson, it's third and two. Will he pass, handoff...OR...run the ball.

Let me guess, too complex for some of you.

[Clipper Nation]

One play.....hahahahaha!!!!!!!! ROOKIE~~~~~~~~~~~

It's not just one play, old fart. He also did this:



And this:



Meanwhile, Struggle's only defining Super Bowl moment is an embarrassing interception at the goal line that cost his team the win. Sucks to suck, tbh.

[Avante]

So Eli Manning is a better QB than....

Dan Marino
Philip Rivers
Warren Moon
Fran Tarkenton
Dan Fouts
Jim Kelly

...because of his SB exploits? Well then so is RW, right?

Dude, do you simply not understand....BODY OF WORK..and...AT THE SAME STAGE OF A CAREER.......well?

You are so small guy, so into....a game...a play...a season. That is so..ROOKIE~~~~~

Look at what RW did vs Eli before they turned 28, ok rookie?

[Clipper Nation]

Well then so is RW, right?

What "SB exploits" does Struggle have?

He didn't have to do anything in his first Super Bowl. If the Seahawks' offense never took the field that night, Seattle still would have won 16-8. The score was already 29-0 before Struggle finally put up a touchdown and cracked triple-digit yards. His defense and special teams did all the hard work, and that's why the Super Bowl MVP that year went to a defensive player.

In his second Super Bowl, he was just brutal. He didn't complete a pass until the second quarter. He was 3-10 on third down. His team gifted him a 10-point lead and he couldn't score for the rest of the game. Brady completed more passes in the 4th quarter alone than Struggle completed in the entire ing game. Struggle also had a 5.1 QBR in the 4th quarter.

And of course, we can't forget about The Pick. Apologists like you want to blame the play call, but Struggle refused to audible out of it because he wanted to be the hero. At the start of the play, he hesitated and stared down Lockette while he was wide open. Worst case scenario if he makes that throw is that Lockette gets tackled short of the goal line, they call their last time out and then punch it in with Lynch. Once Butler started covering Lockette, then Struggle took a 2-and-a-half-step drop and finally threw a terrible pass off his back foot. Ironically, he lost the Super Bowl for his team because he didn't do the exact thing you always complain about: stand tall in the pocket and deliver a quick, accurate pass.

Add in some of Struggle's other putrid performances that his team bailed him out of (2013 Divisional Round against the Saints, 2014 NFC le game against the Packers), and I fail to see how Struggle's resume in clutch moments even comes close to Eli's.

[spurraider21]

What "SB exploits" does Struggle have?

He didn't have to do anything in his first Super Bowl. If the Seahawks' offense never took the field that night, Seattle still would have won 16-8. The score was already 29-0 before Struggle finally put up a touchdown and cracked triple-digit yards. His defense and special teams did all the hard work, and that's why the Super Bowl MVP that year went to a defensive player.

In his second Super Bowl, he was just brutal. He didn't complete a pass until the second quarter. He was 3-10 on third down. His team gifted him a 10-point lead and he couldn't score for the rest of the game. Brady completed more passes in the 4th quarter alone than Struggle completed in the entire ing game. Struggle also had a 5.1 QBR in the 4th quarter.

And of course, we can't forget about The Pick. Apologists like you want to blame the play call, but Struggle refused to audible out of it because he wanted to be the hero. At the start of the play, he hesitated and stared down Lockette while he was wide open. Worst case scenario if he makes that throw is that Lockette gets tackled short of the goal line, they call their last time out and then punch it in with Lynch. Once Butler started covering Lockette, then Struggle took a 2-and-a-half-step drop and finally threw a terrible pass off his back foot. Ironically, he lost the Super Bowl for his team because he didn't do the exact thing you always complain about: stand tall in the pocket and deliver a quick, accurate pass.

Add in some of Struggle's other putrid performances that his team bailed him out of (2013 Divisional Round against the Saints, 2014 NFC le game against the Packers), and I fail to see how Struggle's resume in clutch moments even comes close to Eli's.

he didnt throw off his back foot, dip . he even raises his back foot as he throws it

[Clipper Nation]

he didnt throw off his back foot, dip . he even raises his back foot as he throws it

I see even you can't deny that Struggle shat his pants and threw a terrible pass. He didn't audible, he waited far too long to get rid of the ball and when he did throw it, he threw it way too high. All because he wanted to be the hero but didn't have the courage to stand tall in the pocket like all those "boring" winning quarterbacks that Avante hates.

[Avante]

What "SB exploits" does Struggle have?

He didn't have to do anything in his first Super Bowl. If the Seahawks' offense never took the field that night, Seattle still would have won 16-8. The score was already 29-0 before Struggle finally put up a touchdown and cracked triple-digit yards. His defense and special teams did all the hard work, and that's why the Super Bowl MVP that year went to a defensive player.

In his second Super Bowl, he was just brutal. He didn't complete a pass until the second quarter. He was 3-10 on third down. His team gifted him a 10-point lead and he couldn't score for the rest of the game. Brady completed more passes in the 4th quarter alone than Struggle completed in the entire ing game. Struggle also had a 5.1 QBR in the 4th quarter.

And of course, we can't forget about The Pick. Apologists like you want to blame the play call, but Struggle refused to audible out of it because he wanted to be the hero. At the start of the play, he hesitated and stared down Lockette while he was wide open. Worst case scenario if he makes that throw is that Lockette gets tackled short of the goal line, they call their last time out and then punch it in with Lynch. Once Butler started covering Lockette, then Struggle took a 2-and-a-half-step drop and finally threw a terrible pass off his back foot. Ironically, he lost the Super Bowl for his team because he didn't do the exact thing you always complain about: stand tall in the pocket and deliver a quick, accurate pass.

Add in some of Struggle's other putrid performances that his team bailed him out of (2013 Divisional Round against the Saints, 2014 NFC le game against the Packers), and I fail to see how Struggle's resume in clutch moments even comes close to Eli's.

Do you EVER answer a ing a question?

Dude...ANSWER THE ING QUESTION...ok?

So do you think Eli is a better QB than all those I mentioned because of a couple SB plays....WELL?

So Eli is a better QB than Tom Brady, right?

[spurraider21]

I see even you can't deny that Struggle shat his pants and threw a terrible pass. He didn't audible, he waited far too long to get rid of the ball and when he did throw it, he threw it way too high. All because he wanted to be the hero but didn't have the courage to stand tall in the pocket like all those "boring" winning quarterbacks that Avante hates.

it was a bad throw. i'd be delusional if i "denied" that so there's no need. but its asinine to say he threw off his back foot and didnt stand tall. he dropped back and delivered the throw, a bad throw albeit. it was a one step drop for s sake

[Clipper Nation]

Do you EVER answer a ing a question?

Dude...ANSWER THE ING QUESTION...ok?

So do you think Eli is a better QB than all those I mentioned because of a couple SB plays....WELL?

Your questions are old, gross, and gy. You actually think Struggle Wilson had "SB exploits"

[Avante]

Your questions are old, gross, and gy. You actually think Struggle Wilson had "SB exploits"

Talk about a ing moron, ya just now saw how stupid your bull was, didn't ya? NO...Eli isn't a better QB than all those I mentooned or Russell Wilson.

Dude, that was stupid, but being an idiot ya missed it.

Dan Marino had no SB expoits so Eli MUST be better...hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eli Manning wouldn't make a zit on the butt of Warren Moon, I know, news to you.

What an idiot you are got.

[Avante]

Clipper Nation

What if RW had completed that pass and wins another SB? What would be your take on him now, well?

I get this feeling that no matter what a black QB does he will still suck in your book, right?

Newton sucks.
Struggle sucks.

Is there any black QB who doesn't suck, well? Let me guess...Prescott has a monster O line and a stud RB...right? Wentz is better, right?

[Clipper Nation]

Clipper Nation

What if RW had completed that pass and wins another SB? What would be your take on him now, well?

I'd say he got carried by his mega-stacked team in two Super Bowls.

I get this feeling that no matter what a black QB does he will still suck on your book, right?

Aaaaand, as always when Struggle's defenders run out of arguments, we circle around to the race card.

Warren Moon and Steve McNair were two of my favorite QBs growing up. Moon was the prototypical pocket passer. McNair was a "mobile" QB early on in his career, but he soon became a great pocket passer as well. Likewise, I knew Tebow and Manziel were going to bust. It has always been about style of play with me, not race. Quit projecting your obsession with skin color onto others.

[Avante]

I'd say he got carried by his mega-stacked team in two Super Bowls.


Aaaaand, as always when Struggle's defenders run out of arguments, we circle around to the race card.

Warren Moon and Steve McNair were two of my favorite QBs growing up. Moon was the prototypical pocket passer. McNair was a "mobile" QB early on in his career, but he soon became a great pocket passer as well. Likewise, I knew Tebow and Manziel were going to bust. It has always been about style of play with me, not race. Quit projecting your obsession with skin color onto others.

Run out of arguments, huh???????????? Dude, RW has done sooooooooooooo many things to brag about, trust me, WAY far away from running out of arguments, ok?

So no matter what RW does or anyone else as long as he has a defense ir won't matter, right? So all those HOF QB;s surrounded by HOFers on their teams shouldn't be there? Bradshaw? Bart Starr?

So unless a QB can't run he can never be a stud QB in your book, right? How about Steve Young? Warren Moon did run, you aren't aware of that? Had a slew of runs over 15 yards, gained over 1700 yds rushing.

Dude, if you didn't see just how great RW is last night you just refuse to deal with reality, he was amazing.

By the way...

Steve McNair was a runner, he had over 3000 yards rushing, five seasons where he had over 400 yards and he had a 600 yard season near the end of his career, so I have no idea what you're talking about and it appears neither do you.

[Avante]

A mobile black QB was the NFL MVP in 2015.

A mobile black QB won the NFC in 2015.

A mobile black QB will win the Heisnan Saturday night.

Two mobile black QB's will play in the NCAA le game.

A mobile black QB will win the NFC this season, beating another mobile black QB.

A mobile black QB could be the MVP.....again.

If ya follow HS football, what are we seeing more and more of? Where do the colleges get their QB's, where does the NFL get their QB's?



I better toss in a..haha~~~...the obvious doesn't work here.

[benefactor]

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[Avante]

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You really this ed up little man? Follwing Avante around to...chirp chirp....hahahaha~~~~~

GROW UP~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

This is why I saw you as a total freak and a waste of time.

[leemajors]

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[Avante]

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Two can play that game little man, ok?

[Avante]

DO NOT CALL ME CRICKET OR...CHIRP CHIRP..GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR~~~~~~~

Watch how easy this is.

[benefactor]

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[spurraider21]

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[Avante]

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translation

How did you do that Avante, that call on Tyreek Hill who I'd never even heard of was amazing. Sorry for that stupid...the curse ...bit, as ya know I'm an idiot sometimes. Reminded of that time I....YIPPPEEEE MINUS 330...you shut me up there also, you are da man Avante.

Oh yeah, you told me my Raiders stood no chance, yep, nailed that also.

[Clipper Nation]

[Avante]

Clipper Nation tell us all again about how Rex is exposing those Raider fakers , hahahahaha~~~~~~~~

Dude, will you ever learn the game is four quarters?

Wanna talk Tyreek Hill again, hahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~

, let;'s not forget Derek "INT FUMBLE INT INT" Anderson, hahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~

Dumb as a rock ain't ya little guy?