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    Purely subjective.

    I'd argue most average NBA players today would dominate the NBA in the 60's/70's. The game and the athlete has evolved so much the past 50 years to suggest otherwise.
    I still say they have a point though. If you are a ball player and you have defended or have been defended by someone that really D's up on you, bodies up, you have a hard as time scoring the ball. Now if your defender isnt allowed to body up or touch you, watch how many wide open looks you get.

    Now if you add in being able to carry the ball. niggra! You will be a superstar of street ball.

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    Really think those Fuzzy Bingo cards need to happen. I need suggestions on words to use for the boxes.


    CH is reduced to "he's getting on by other coaches players" and has surrendered merit. DMC could only snipe and backbite at the end. The 313 account likes to own itself like an idiot and throw against the wall.

    I know your level and method as well. Go ahead and circle jerk if it makes you feel better. You're not even trying.

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    I guess they still show 1960's NBA in Algeria
    Nah we just Lakers-Sixers 1980

    I've never seen a 6`9 PG

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    played in an era where you could average 50/30 a game
    white stiffs
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    basketball made out of cow hide
    I waiting for someone to on those stats.

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    I still say they have a point though. If you are a ball player and you have defended or have been defended by someone that really D's up on you, bodies up, you have a hard as time scoring the ball. Now if your defender isnt allowed to body up or touch you, watch how many wide open looks you get.

    Now if you add in being able to carry the ball. niggra! You will be a superstar of street ball.
    i don't understand how hand checking would slow curry when his game is predicated on running through moving screens and taking contested jumpers. It would've hurt someone like LeBRon more who's whole game was predicated on iso ball.

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    i don't understand how hand checking would slow curry when his game is predicated on running through moving screens and taking contested jumpers. It would've hurt someone like LeBRon more who's whole game was predicated on iso ball.
    I'm not surprised that you cannot figure out why pushing, shoving and leaning on a guy for 40 minutes would impact a smaller player's game. You must not have watched the 99 championship and how Elie, Jackson, and Elliott would manhandle players as they fought over screens.

    You really don't know about basketball.

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    Do you have anything other than super athlete theory to support this?
    When did I state athletes today were superior to athletes in the 1960s?

    I see a whole lot of teams that do a very poor job defending outlet passes and getting back in general.

    If you really want to claim that modern NBA transition defense is now more vigilant or some nonsense then you need to do more than just assert it.
    I'm not even talking about transition defense off a rebound or live ball turnover. I'm talking how teams play defense after a score or dead ball turnover and how it affects the pace of today's game. If you don't think set defenses today are better than the track race up and down play of the 1960s, you're incredibly naive.

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    I'm not surprised that you cannot figure out why pushing, shoving and leaning on a guy for 40 minutes would impact a smaller player's game. You must not have watched the 99 championship and how Elie, Jackson, and Elliott would manhandle players as they fought over screens.

    You really don't know about basketball.
    lol cherry picking. Ray Allen and Reggie Miller both did fine in the hand checking era and are no where near the shooters Curry is lol

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    When did I state athletes today were superior to athletes in the 1960s?

    I'm not even talking about transition defense off a rebound or live ball turnover. I'm talking how teams play defense after a score or dead ball turnover and how it affects the pace of today's game. If you don't think set defenses today are better than the track race up and down play of the 1960s, you're incredibly naive.
    So you make your assertion and your support for it is the mindless claim that if I don't buy it I'm naive. Lovely.

    Tell us in your own words how you think offenses increase pace. Then think about your comments about how you're not even "I'm not even talking about transition defense."

    What I think is you are regurgitating something you heard on a podcast or the like and you're too dim to actually make the argument.

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    lol cherry picking. Ray Allen and Reggie Miller both did fine in the hand checking era and are no where near the shooters Curry is lol
    I'm trying to find a common experience because we are both supposed to be Spurs fans. In the 99 championship, AJ, Elie, Elliott and Jackson would all grab and cling as they were fighting over screens. You were saying you didn't understand how it would help in the screen game. Caught up yet?

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    So you make your assertion and your support for it is the mindless claim that if I don't buy it I'm naive. Lovely.

    Tell us in your own words how you think offenses increase pace. Then think about your comments about how you're not even "I'm not even talking about transition defense."

    What I think is you are regurgitating something you heard on a podcast or the like and you're too dim to actually make the argument.
    Quoting half of my sentence. I obviously acknowledge that transition defense off live ball turnovers and missed shots are important, but as I said, I'm not even talking about that aspect at the moment. Basic defense from teams out of dead ball situations are better today. What do you do when you don't want a team to get out and run on you? You get back on defense. That alone slows the game down and lowers possessions. Lol Oscar thinking full court press is a viable option and lol at you for defending him. Im done replying to you unless you actually make an argument for your case and stop trying to spin this .

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    I'm trying to find a common experience because we are both supposed to be Spurs fans. In the 99 championship, AJ, Elie, Elliott and Jackson would all grab and cling as they were fighting over screens. You were saying you didn't understand how it would help in the screen game. Caught up yet?
    I got that, and I'm assuming you're not just saying they did that during that series and it was commonplace in the 90s. My counter argument was that two of the consensus top 10 shooters ever did just fine getting open in that era.

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    I got that, and I'm assuming you're not just saying they did that during that series and it was commonplace in the 90s. My counter argument was that two of the consensus top 10 shooters ever did just fine getting open in that era.
    Their careers straddled the eras. Miller is half a foot taller and Allen weighs 20 lbs heavier. Iverson is the better comparison but he played like a RB going to the hoop for the most part.

    And that isn't really an argument. Mentioning two shooters without context of relative performance is just mindless blather that doesn't demonstrate anything.

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    Quoting half of my sentence. I obviously acknowledge that transition defense off live ball turnovers and missed shots are important, but as I said, I'm not even talking about that aspect at the moment. Basic defense from teams out of dead ball situations are better today. What do you do when you don't want a team to get out and run on you? You get back on defense. That alone slows the game down and lowers possessions. Lol Oscar thinking full court press is a viable option and lol at you for defending him. Im done replying to you unless you actually make an argument for your case and stop trying to spin this .
    Multiple outlets to beat the press is nothing new. And you really think that on average players now get back on defense better than before?

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    Francis a raison sur ce coup la !

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    Spurs' Old School defense proving big O right

    Lol modern defenses
    Lol Curry

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    Spurs' Old School defense proving big O right

    Lol modern defenses
    Lol Curry


    Soft Glass Ankles Curry would get destroyed by a legit defence aka 90's type defence. No wonder Warriors having such a "historic" season in Today's watered down in talent NBA, can you imagine today's NBA expanding into 4 additional teams as they did in the 90's, the league would be even more ty and diluted of talent than it already is, why soon the PF position will go the way of the Center position, and it will be a league of wings like Harden flopping all over the place begging for a foul.

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    Spurs' Old School defense proving big O right

    Lol modern defenses
    Lol Curry
    What was old school about the Spurs defense? The countless switches?

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    Soft Glass Ankles Curry would get destroyed by a legit defence aka 90's type defence. No wonder Warriors having such a "historic" season in Today's watered down in talent NBA, can you imagine today's NBA expanding into 4 additional teams as they did in the 90's, the league would be even more ty and diluted of talent than it already is, why soon the PF position will go the way of the Center position, and it will be a league of wings like Harden flopping all over the place begging for a foul.
    spread of talent or formation of super teams diluting teams of talent?

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    nba needs to do something about calls being made for midgets playing defense, just like in soccer when contesting for a ball header, taller guy jumps up waves his arm and midget just clock his head back for easy yellow card...u saw what that midget curry did on kawhi when kawhi was posting him up? fkn clocking his head back like kawhi use his off hand to hold him down behind him...

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    nba needs to do something about calls being made for midgets playing defense, just like in soccer when contesting for a ball header, taller guy jumps up waves his arm and midget just clock his head back for easy yellow card...u saw what that midget curry did on kawhi when kawhi was posting him up? fkn clocking his head back like kawhi use his off hand to hold him down behind him...
    Only pussies & assholes blame the officiating.

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    Only pussies & assholes blame the officiating.
    They were selling your

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    Only pussies & assholes blame the officiating.
    when u going to throw that barrel clown, continue to hold onto it

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    Only pussies & assholes blame the officiating.
    Then let's blame the change in rules.

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