Report: Spurs expected to make run at Mike Conley in free agency

[poeticism707]

I like this move when the Spurs strike out on Durant.

By the time the 4 year contract is up, Conley would only be 32.

And he is HEAD AND SHOULDERS BETTER THAN TP RIGHT NOW

And as TP ain't getting traded due to legacy and his huge contract and old age,

they can easily bring him off the bench.

DO IT POP¡¡!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!¡!!!!!

[ElNono]

Bruce Bowen is more relevant than Elliott since the latter hadn't even won a single chip when he got traded. Bowen was also at the end of his career like Porker but only had one year remaining on his deal which was a partially guarantee, meanwhile Porky has 2 year remaining on his deal FULLY guaranteed.

Porker getting traded to the Hawks for Teague would be the equivalent of Billups getting traded to Denver for Iverson.

Word around the time was that Bowen and Pop weren't in great terms... IIRC, Pop stopped playing him quite a bit before the trade happened. I don't see that situation with Tony.

I know Bowen will be perennially underrated, tbh, but he also wasn't part of the big 3...

[TheGoldStandard]

I think i'll say it again.

Assuming gasol doesn't pull a west and play for free,

Would you rather use cap space on a big and bench pieces, and roll with PArker

or blow the whole stack on Conley and go minimums and exceptions. Maybe getting something nice in a trade with Parker. (but also very likely we lose our pick in any parker trade as sweetener)


It's not an easy choice (unless you have emotions which you can't turn off then it looks easy)

Which big are we speaking of? Gasol? I'd rather try to go get Teague even if its for a year and bring over some of the euro stashes we have. We make the playoffs and get bounced, Teague might want to stay, we shop parker the following season because it's an expiring deal or you just deal with his trash for 2 seasons and its over.

If I'm going to blow money on anyone its not Conley, presently constructed he does not move the needle to get them a win with minimums and exceptions. I'd rather at least attempt to get Clarkson and be in limbo for a season or two ultimately hoping that Milutinov becomes at least a competent big and Spurs are able to get a 3rd cheese in 2 seasons.

[poeticism707]

Clarkson is a RFA.

You are plum crazy if you think the Lakers ain't matching whatever offer sheet.

[Kawhitstorm]

Which big are we speaking of? Gasol? I'd rather try to go get Teague even if its for a year and bring over some of the euro stashes we have.

I would assume the MLE would be enough for Pau so there would still be a 20 mill cap space if Tim/Manu retire. Besides, Teague wouldn't take up the cap space b/c of the outgoing salary.

Thus, PATFO can sign Pau for the MLE & use the cap space on a backup big (Mozgov) & a combo guard (Fournier). Maybe sign a stretch 4 like Leuer for dirt cheap.

So, the depth chart would look something like this:

Pau/Mozgov (*level one empty slot)
LMA/Leuer/Andrew Nicholson
Kawhi/Kyle/Bertans
Danny/Fournier/Simmons
Tony/Teague/GP II

For small-ball, Kawhi can play the 4 & Fournier can play w/ the starters in place of Pau.

[SAGirl]

Also, if tholdren likes it, it's probably a bad idea

Props! this was funny.

My man, it's not that TP has no value to other teams, it would be hard for SA to trade him.

I haven't been around as long as some of you.. or most of you it seems like, so my speculations are going to be off the mark often concerning issues like this but I would think Pops would have a heart to heart conversation with him in which Tony would accept whatever conditions Pop wants. It would seem to us he would be unlikely to agree to a bench role, but if it was that or a trade, Tony would do it. At the same time, Pop did trade George Hill, whom he famously loved, to improve the team. It was a necessity. I am unsure on how they go about this, but spending near max money on two PG doesn't make sense. If they go after Conley, they move Tony.

Pop's priorities were two:
1. bench production
2. bigs

He did express admiration for Andre Miller. (He likes the passing PG of old) He will do what he can to strengthen this spot, too.

Its possible they look at the draft for a PG, or a young project that is not in our radar. One tends to think we need someone more middle of the road around 24-25 yrs. old, but if that guy is not out there to be had, then off to the draft it is, same way we got Kawhi. In that case, he will want Tony here to train him, with Tony's acknowledgment that if the bench needs him to be scoring off to the bench he goes, while that younger guy has Kawhi and LMA to support him with the scoring while he grows. This outlook would be the best of both worlds and it doesn't include Conley.

[SAGirl]

I think i'll say it again.

Assuming gasol doesn't pull a west and play for free,

Would you rather use cap space on a big and bench pieces, and roll with PArker

or blow the whole stack on Conley and go minimums and exceptions. Maybe getting something nice in a trade with Parker. (but also very likely we lose our pick in any parker trade as sweetener)


It's not an easy choice (unless you have emotions which you can't turn off then it looks easy)

The option I bolded is the one who seems more realistic considering Pop's concerns about our depth.

[apalisoc_9]

Yuck. Conley hasnt played decent Defense for the last year and half. Hes almost as bad as parker on that end. It's also a huge gamble because of injury.

To add to that, Kawhi needs a legit perimter partner that isnt in the deferement mindset. Conley is one of those guys who will be aggresive one game and take 12-14 shots and the next game he takes 7-8 shots...and that was a year ago when they barely had any real offensive perimter talent.

He would be a complete waste of money.

[CGD]

Swap TP/Boris for Teague/Splitter + ATL Pick.

If healthy Splitter can be a stopgap until the Spurs are able to bring along another big to start alongside with LMA, such as Mulitinov or LJC.

[wildbill2u]

This past season stat comparison per 36 minutes from Basketball Reference.
k Player Season Age G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS1

Mike Conley 2015-16 28 56 56 1760 6.0 14.2 .422 1.6 4.4 .363 4.4 9.8 .449 3.9 4.7 .834 0.5 2.8 3.4 7.0 1.4 0.3 1.7 2.0 17.52

Tony Parker 2015-16 33 72 72 1980 6.4 12.9 .493 0.5 1.2 .415 5.9 11.7 .501 2.4 3.1 .760 0.3 2.9 3.2 6.9 1.0 0.2 2.4 2.1 15.6

Have to remember that Parker was trying to adjust/defer to LMA and Kwahi as primary shooting options and wasn't playing his usual game. Conley is 28, no spring chicken for a guard either if he may have some achilles tendon issues. Can't have both. I don't know if Parker's contract is tradeable which would be required to bring Conley in on big FA contract.All in all, I think I'd rather go after some lower rated younger guy with a good upside. I don't know if any are available and doubt we could get one in draft.Our weakest position is at Center.

[BackHome]

Don't understand the love for Teague he sucks and would not fit in with our team

[dbreiden83080]

So that would put Tony on the trading block?

[bic50]

Didn't get the chance to watch the entire series. But was parker really that bad?

[hooperflash]

Didn't get the chance to watch the entire series. But was parker really that bad?

In my eyes, the only downside of him on the floor was the defense on Westbrook in the post.
Although you can say that for most guards, he did fine tbh.

[Leetonidas]

Didn't get the chance to watch the entire series. But was parker really that bad?

No but yes. He didn't play as bad as 2015 but the problem is this dude still wants to take big buckets and freeze out the team like he is still the man. the last few minutes of game 5 were just pathetic and he was leading the way. i used to be a Parker fan but right now he is nowhere near worth his contract and despite what he says he obviously is having trouble relinquishing control of the team. he is not a starting caliber PG in 2016 imo

[SAGirl]

I am just convinced we stick with Tony. Pop is likely to let got of some vets in the bench and upgrade our depth. While the league zigs, they zag, that's Pop. Maybe some FA that are not in our radars right now. To me it's urgent to get a big URGENT. Timmy is done. If he returns in a legacy contract fine but we need younger legit bigs and we won't get value for Tony.

I might be wrong but Pop was specific about lack of depth, bigs then the PG spot. So you fill some with FA for others spots they maybe look at draft or international prospects again.

[baseline bum]

No but yes. He didn't play as bad as 2015 but the problem is this dude still wants to take big buckets and freeze out the team like he is still the man. the last few minutes of game 5 were just pathetic and he was leading the way. i used to be a Parker fan but right now he is nowhere near worth his contract and despite what he says he obviously is having trouble relinquishing control of the team. he is not a starting caliber PG in 2016 imo

Westbrook played some pretty amazing ball denial on that play in Game 5 with the score 90-90 with about a minute and a half left. The Spurs were definitely running a play for Kawhi but he couldn't get open for the pass. I was pissed at Parker taking that shot at first, but watching it again that was just great defense from Westbrook.

[Sean Cagney]

No but yes. He didn't play as bad as 2015 but the problem is this dude still wants to take big buckets and freeze out the team like he is still the man. the last few minutes of game 5 were just pathetic and he was leading the way. i used to be a Parker fan but right now he is nowhere near worth his contract and despite what he says he obviously is having trouble relinquishing control of the team. he is not a starting caliber PG in 2016 imo

^^^^^ This.

[Kawhitstorm]

Don't understand the love for Teague he sucks and would not fit in with our team

Teague essentially 2002-03 Porker w/ a 3 point shot & court vision, which is better than 2016-17 Porker or Patty.

Ideally, he would be an excellent backup on a contender ala Reggie Jackson w/ OKC but if he's splitting minutes w/ Porky that would essentially be his role. His body is also not breaking down, which is the #1 issue w/ Conley. The best ability is availability as we saw w/ Tiago.

[Kawhitstorm]

Westbrook played some pretty amazing ball denial on that play in Game 5 with the score 90-90 with about a minute and a half left. The Spurs were definitely running a play for Kawhi but he couldn't get open for the pass. I was pissed at Parker taking that shot at first, but watching it again that was just great defense from Westbrook.

WestBrick didn't blowup the play but Porky still missed two OPEN jumpers & a crucial FT, which is the opposite of a clutch performance.