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Did the private sector security experts see the classified report? Did Donald Trump go from questioning Russia's involvement to begrudgingly accepting Russia was responsible for the hacking and shifting his position to "but it had no effect on the outcome of the election" after reading/having the classified report read to him?

I can appreciate The Intercept's position as the evidence that was publicly made available was lacking (which was also acknowledged in the New Yorker article) and I agree the American people deserve that information. But absent that evidence, and considering the fact that there is no person or agency that had had access to the classified report that still denies Russia was responsible for the hacking, I draw my own conclusions. If you can provide a person/agency that had access to the classified report that denies Russia was responsible, I'll happily concede the point.

The classified report was all based off the Clinton funded CrowdStrike report.

https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bea...nal-committee/

Multiple people well versed in security and intelligence read the exact same report and called bull on the DNI findings. Remember that in the DNI the NSA had the least amount of confidence attributing to Russia.

“According to William Binney (former Technical Director, World Geopolitical & Military Analysis, NSA), the NSA’s “extensive domestic data-collection network,” any data removed remotely from Hillary Clinton or DNC servers would have passed over fiber networks and therefore would have been captured by the NSA who could have then analyzed packet data to determine the origination point and destination address of those packets.”



These are pretty good articles. 2nd one absolutely s on CrowdStrike.

Part 1
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2017/...cy-bear-2.html

Part 2
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2017/...d-sources.html

[Th'Pusher]

The classified report was all based off the Clinton funded CrowdStrike report.

https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bea...nal-committee/

Multiple people well versed in security and intelligence read the exact same report and called bull on the DNI findings. Remember that in the DNI the NSA had the least amount of confidence attributing to Russia.

“According to William Binney (former Technical Director, World Geopolitical & Military Analysis, NSA), the NSA’s “extensive domestic data-collection network,” any data removed remotely from Hillary Clinton or DNC servers would have passed over fiber networks and therefore would have been captured by the NSA who could have then analyzed packet data to determine the origination point and destination address of those packets.”



These are pretty good articles. 2nd one absolutely s on CrowdStrike.

Part 1
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2017/...cy-bear-2.html

Part 2
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2017/...d-sources.html

So you cant provide anybody that had access to the classified report that denies Russia was responsible for the hacking?

How do you explain Donald's shift from questioning Russia's responsibility to accepting they were responsible after being briefed on the classified report?

Can you name a single person in the Trump Administration, any active members of an intelligence agency or any member of congress that still denies Russia was responsible?

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So you cant provide anybody that had access to the classified report that denies Russia was responsible for the hacking?

How do you explain Donald's shift from questioning Russia's responsibility to accepting they were responsible after being briefed on the classified report?

Can you name a single person in the Trump Administration, any active members of an intelligence agency or any member of congress that still denies Russia was responsible?

Before moving forward do you agree the DNI report was based off the CrowdStrike report?

[Th'Pusher]

Before moving forward do you agree the DNI report was based off the CrowdStrike report?

I do not know that the classified report was based solely on the CrowdStrike report.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I do not know that the classified report was based solely on the CrowdStrike report.

Been reported on repeatedly. Read the two links above.

[Th'Pusher]

Been reported on repeatedly. Read the two links above.

There is nothing in either article that indicates the CroudStrike report was the sole source of information for the classified report.

[TheSanityAnnex]

There is nothing in either article that indicates the CroudStrike report was the sole source of information for the classified report.

I'll try and find where I read it tomorrow if it wasn't in those two links, thought it was.

quick glance at the 2nd link had this and we know FBI wasn't allowed to analyze the servers.

"The FBI report is based solely on Crowdstrike’s evidence which has become a laughing stock across the cyber security industry. Cyber security professionals are standing up saying how laughable Dimitri Alperovitch’s information is. For there to be any evidence of a hack, the DNI report has to use the FBI report and Crowdstrike’s evidence. This includes the tool X-Agent"

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I'll try and find where I read it tomorrow if it wasn't in those two links, thought it was.

quick glance at the 2nd link had this and we know FBI wasn't allowed to analyze the servers.

"The FBI report is based solely on Crowdstrike’s evidence which has become a laughing stock across the cyber security industry. Cyber security professionals are standing up saying how laughable Dimitri Alperovitch’s information is. For there to be any evidence of a hack, the DNI report has to use the FBI report and Crowdstrike’s evidence. This includes the tool X-Agent"

Can you name a single person in the Trump Administration, any active members of an intelligence agency or any member of congress that still denies Russia was responsible?

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Can you name a single person in the Trump Administration, any active members of an intelligence agency or any member of congress that still denies Russia was responsible?

Their statements have no bearing on whether or not it was actually Russia. If the "hack" came from Russia the NSA would be able to attribute it, and they haven't.

Can you name a single person from the NSA saying it was with out a doubt Russia?

think about this...

Because any possibility of a Russian hack at the DNC has been taken away, the rest of the DNI report comes across as a long political whine. The only 2 groups that are known to possess X-Agent are Crowdstrike and the Ukrainian hacker RUH8. The DNI report relies on both to hold their facts together. Both are discredited. The following admission should interest John Podesta.
According to a RFE/RL interview, “RUH8 says the Cyber Alliance uses “all tools and methods” at its disposal to hack into their perceived foes’ accounts. In particular, he says, spear-phishing — using messages that mimic those of legitimate companies along with a request and link to change personal security information — “is quite efficient. People readily give up their passwords and personal info,” he says. “They receive something in their [e-]mail like, ‘Your account will be suspended if you don’t confirm [your security details].’ They click that link and we have them.”
Is it me or has RUH8 done everything except openly confess to hacking Podesta? Spear-fishing is the tactic said to be used in the DNC hacking. Only 2 known groups have the X-Agent and only RUH8 states openly that they changed the course of world geopolitics. Neither of them has been investigated. Security analysts are starting to speculate that if there was a hack, the Ukrainians probably did it. The self-identifying Pravy Sektor members RUH8 are also claiming to have hacked the Russian government email. When the facts are considered, RUH8 may have done a hack to cover up the Craig Murray leak.
The FBI now in charge of domestic intelligence didn’t investigate anything. All the evidence to prove a Russian hack has been shown clearly to be flawed and faked. Crowdstrike is guilty of at least perjury based on their own statements and the evidence they gave to the FBI. The DNI and 17 Intel agencies are relying on neo-nazi group hackers that openly mock them.
This only leaves only one scenario that has an unblemished track record. Julian Assange and Craig Murray told the truth. The emails were leaked.

[Th'Pusher]

Their statements have no bearing on whether or not it was actually Russia. If the "hack" came from Russia the NSA would be able to attribute it, and they haven't.

Can you name a single person from the NSA saying it was with out a doubt Russia?

think about this...

Because any possibility of a Russian hack at the DNC has been taken away, the rest of the DNI report comes across as a long political whine. The only 2 groups that are known to possess X-Agent are Crowdstrike and the Ukrainian hacker RUH8. The DNI report relies on both to hold their facts together. Both are discredited. The following admission should interest John Podesta.
According to a RFE/RL interview, “RUH8 says the Cyber Alliance uses “all tools and methods” at its disposal to hack into their perceived foes’ accounts. In particular, he says, spear-phishing — using messages that mimic those of legitimate companies along with a request and link to change personal security information — “is quite efficient. People readily give up their passwords and personal info,” he says. “They receive something in their [e-]mail like, ‘Your account will be suspended if you don’t confirm [your security details].’ They click that link and we have them.”
Is it me or has RUH8 done everything except openly confess to hacking Podesta? Spear-fishing is the tactic said to be used in the DNC hacking. Only 2 known groups have the X-Agent and only RUH8 states openly that they changed the course of world geopolitics. Neither of them has been investigated. Security analysts are starting to speculate that if there was a hack, the Ukrainians probably did it. The self-identifying Pravy Sektor members RUH8 are also claiming to have hacked the Russian government email. When the facts are considered, RUH8 may have done a hack to cover up the Craig Murray leak.
The FBI now in charge of domestic intelligence didn’t investigate anything. All the evidence to prove a Russian hack has been shown clearly to be flawed and faked. Crowdstrike is guilty of at least perjury based on their own statements and the evidence they gave to the FBI. The DNI and 17 Intel agencies are relying on neo-nazi group hackers that openly mock them.
This only leaves only one scenario that has an unblemished track record. Julian Assange and Craig Murray told the truth. The emails were leaked.

Is the NSA a member of the USIC? Did the USIC put out this statement?

"The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and ins utions, including from US political organizations. The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process. Such activity is not new to Moscow—the Russians have used similar tactics and techniques across Europe and Eurasia, for example, to influence public opinion there. We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities.".

Did the NSA come out and publicly reject the above statement once released by the USIC?

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Is the NSA a member of the USIC? Did the USIC put out this statement?

"The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and ins utions, including from US political organizations. The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process. Such activity is not new to Moscow—the Russians have used similar tactics and techniques across Europe and Eurasia, for example, to influence public opinion there. We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities.".

Did the NSA come out and publicly reject the above statement once released by the USIC?

The NSA reported the least amount of confidence it was Russia in the DNI report.

Again, find me one member of the NSA stating they are confident it was Russia.

If if it was a hack do you think the NSA would not be able to attribute? You are close to calling the NSA incompetent if you think this.

[Th'Pusher]

The NSA reported the least amount of confidence it was Russia in the DNI report.

Again, find me one member of the NSA stating they are confident it was Russia.

If if it was a hack do you think the NSA would not be able to attribute? You are close to calling the NSA incompetent if you think this.

The NSA said they had moderate confidence it was Russia.

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The NSA said they had moderate confidence it was Russia.

LOL TSA.

The NSA Chief Says Russia Hacked the 2016 Election. Congress Must Investigate.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...-2016-campaign

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/video...hacking-report

This dude thinks we live in the boomsticks where internet is limited to ST or something.

[TheSanityAnnex]

The NSA said they had moderate confidence it was Russia.

Correct.

Think about that considering this was claimed to have been a hack.

[TheSanityAnnex]

LOL TSA.

The NSA Chief Says Russia Hacked the 2016 Election. Congress Must Investigate.


http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...-2016-campaign

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/video...hacking-report

This dude thinks we live in the boomsticks where internet is limited to ST or something.

Actually he didn't say that. Nice try though.

"This was a conscious effort by a nation-state to attempt to achieve a specific effect."

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Actually he didn't say that. Nice try though.

"This was a conscious effort by a nation-state to attempt to achieve a specific effect."

You and your selective reading. LOL

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You and your selective reading. LOL

Is the word Russia anywhere in that quote?

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Is the word Russia anywhere in that quote?

The subject they are talking about is. Are you pretending to be this dense or you just are?

Just because you dont see the world Russia doesn't mean that's not what they're talking about.

ing . Muahahahah

[Th'Pusher]

Correct.

Think about that considering this was claimed to have been a hack.

And? Moderate is average confidence. With the exception of the fringe corners of the internet, it's accepted that Russia was responsible for the hack. Note, I'm not on board with the Trump campaign colusion angle, but no one of any significance is actively denying Russia's responsibility for the hacking.

The fact that you actively promote pizzagate doesn't really help your case here, tbh. You're clearly prone to falling victim to conspiracies that appeal to your emotions and confirm your biases.

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And? Moderate is average confidence. With the exception of the fringe corners of the internet, it's accepted that Russia was responsible for the hack. Note, I'm not on board with the Trump campaign colusion angle, but no one of any significance is actively denying Russia's responsibility for the hacking.

The fact that you actively promote pizzagate doesn't really help your case here, tbh. You're clearly prone to falling victim to conspiracies that appeal to your emotions and confirm your biases.

The whole (Russia hack) is complete nonsense. Just like Global Warming is complete nonsense.

[Th'Pusher]

The whole (Russia hack) is complete nonsense. Just like Global Warming is complete nonsense.

This trump fanboy, climate change and holocaust denier doesn't help your case either, TSA.

Sorry. Your opinion holds no regard

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This trump fanboy, climate change and holocaust denier doesn't help your case either, TSA.

Sorry. Your opinion holds no regard

Then I'll not bother you with it henceforth.

[Th'Pusher]

Then I'll not bother you with it henceforth.

I was referring to TSA.

You can be amusing when you're not repe ive. Feel free to respond with an opinion. Or not. I can take or leave you...

[TheSanityAnnex]

And? Moderate is average confidence. With the exception of the fringe corners of the internet, it's accepted that Russia was responsible for the hack. Note, I'm not on board with the Trump campaign colusion angle, but no one of any significance is actively denying Russia's responsibility for the hacking.

The fact that you actively promote pizzagate doesn't really help your case here, tbh. You're clearly prone to falling victim to conspiracies that appeal to your emotions and confirm your biases.

So the private sector security professionals and former NSA officials are now just the fringe corners of the internet? lol

The NSA doesn't do "moderate" confidence. Again...

“According to William Binney (former Technical Director, World Geopolitical & Military Analysis, NSA), the NSA’s “extensive domestic data-collection network,” any data removed remotely from Hillary Clinton or DNC servers would have passed over fiber networks and therefore would have been captured by the NSA who could have then analyzed packet data to determine the origination point and destination address of those packets.”

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The subject they are talking about is. Are you pretending to be this dense or you just are?

Just because you dont see the world Russia doesn't mean that's not what they're talking about.

ing . Muahahahah

Then you should have no problem finding a link to the NSA saying with complete confidence it was Russia. Go fetch.