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    Could it be everyone is afraid to address the elephant in the room?

    Maybe it's mental.

    Kawhi achieved success that he never thought he'd have and now he's afraid it's going to vanish just as quickly -- the vehicle for such a fall from grace (in Kawhi's mind) is this injury.

    Kind of like a mild form of Munchausen syndrome.
    Since, no one can find anything wrong anymore (if that is indeed the situation) you have to wonder if there is a mental aspect to it. That said, Kawhi has to know he's jeopardising both his team's fortunes and a supermax payday. It would either have to hurt really badly or he must be convinced that further action will make the injury worse.

    No one knows but Kawhi. And maybe he doesn't know for sure.

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    Kawhi is doing the right thing by maintaining his silence instead of fanning rumors with public statements. If he was truly disappointed with the poor roster construction, issuing a denial now will only hurt his integrity when the truth eventually gets out.
    I was saying he could put the rumors to rest by addressing it. His silence only adds to the feeling he doesn't want to do what you say, i.e. say something he doesn't really believe. If he won't address it, then its easy to think there is a reason for his silence.

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    I was saying he could put the rumors to rest by addressing it. His silence only adds to the feeling he doesn't want to do what you say, i.e. say something he doesn't really believe. If he won't address it, then its easy to think there is a reason for his silence.
    exactly. if there wasn't any substance to these rumors you have to imagine he would speak up.
    i think it's more about lighting a fire under PATFO as well as contract gamemanship

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    i think it's more about lighting a fire under PATFO as well as contract gamemanship
    I agree.

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    Since, no one can find anything wrong anymore (if that is indeed the situation) you have to wonder if there is a mental aspect to it. That said, Kawhi has to know he's jeopardising both his team's fortunes and a supermax payday. It would either have to hurt really badly or he must be convinced that further action will make the injury worse.

    No one knows but Kawhi. And maybe he doesn't know for sure.
    My $0.02 -
    It is all mental. The Spurs have a couple of different opinions saying it is all healed. Kawhi feels pain and is SCARED his career is over. He keeps telling them it hurts and exaggerating it, and the Spurs are mad he isn't playing because the docs say it is cleared up. Kawhi is pissed because he doesn't agree. He is going to sit out the season and ask for the suped max, and once that is secured he will start playing. Then he'll get out of his head. Or maybe he does have a really really bad injury and he knows. He's just holding out for the supermax and will never be tbe same again. Would make sense.

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    RC changed his Facebook relationship status to "It's Complicated".

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    RC changed his Facebook relationship status to "It's Complicated".

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    Kawhi is in his own head. With his uncertainty, he doesn't want to jeopardize the supermax, so he's gonna sit to prevent exposing himself as damaged goods.

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    Exactly. Imagine you're in Kawhi's shoes. You see your team's management overpay players like Pau Gasol and Patty Mills and see other teams like the Rockets and OKC making big moves for their futures. You definitely want out.
    You mean the widely recognized NBA gold standard?

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    Man, you guys are being so ing melodramatic and hyperbolic as , tbh.

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    What Kawhi would be doing in this scenario is totally ing. It's not his job to worry about what other guys are making. He's not in the front office. Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't know what a lot of the guys on the team are getting. I can imagine a lot of players not looking into that. It's one thing to say he just wanted Patty and Pau gone (cancerous as that would be). But it's a stretch to think he would be upset that Patty is overpaid when there was zero chance of that money going to him.



    What you're doing is the exact opposite of empathy. You're not looking at things from his perspective; you're forcing your own perspective on him. Patty is a player to you. To Kawhi, he's his co-worker who's been there with him since his rookie year. I doubt he's anywhere near as keen as you are to push decisions that dramatically affect Patty's life. Players in general seem to be becoming more vocal about how much they hate trades (which is why the deadline was pushed up this season). I can't imagine Kawhi feeling comfortable forcing Mills and Pau to move across the country just to make him feel better about their chances at winning. I know I wouldn't feel right doing that to any of my co-workers.

    And again, this is ignoring that Kawhi has no reason to about the team's performance so far. They'll have to legit fail in le runs because the other guys can't get it done first.



    If Kawhi wants to play in LA, it's up to him to tell PATFO that. He'd get no points for beating around the bush.
    As per usual, Chinook laying down the smack in a reasoned and mature manner.

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    Whoever wants to take patty, Gasol and lauvergne and trade back all playable assets 2 near all star and a role player i am all in for trading this guy away.
    We can all agree that he has been a great player so far, but on paper he won an mvp on the big 3's back, sucked and then always have some trouble in the playoffs, matchups, injuries, whatever.
    Let's buckle up, upgrade what we have left, and get rid of patty horrible contact.
    If we can land LeBron for him great, if not we need pieces right now.
    The spurs cannot rebuild from scraps, we need to always be compe ive, and the Kawhi drama is dragging us down.

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    You don't say that in public.

    This is officially amateur hour for our front office. They are close to losing the plot entirely..Now you can see how much Duncan has covered up for this franchise. The more Buford awkward ass gets to speak and address hitherto unexisting dysfunction, the more he sounds like just another mediocrity..

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    Kawhi's silence through all this is deafening.

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    You don't say that in public.

    This is officially amateur hour for our front office. They are close to losing the plot entirely..Now you can see how much Duncan has covered up for this franchise. The more Buford awkward ass gets to speak and address hitherto unexisting dysfunction, the more he sounds like just another mediocrity..
    When did he say it in public? I've yet to see a direct quote. It was misquoted by David Aldridge, unless he got a direct interview with RC which seems unlikely

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    Looking at the team struggling an Kawhi just sitting on the bench, while we not know what's really going on is frustrating. I know we're just fans, but I spend my hard earned money on the Spurs. May it be games, Spurs team pass, Spurs gear, etc. I feel we deserve answers.

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    but Kawhi is a leader

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    Since, no one can find anything wrong anymore (if that is indeed the situation) you have to wonder if there is a mental aspect to it. That said, Kawhi has to know he's jeopardising both his team's fortunes and a supermax payday. It would either have to hurt really badly or he must be convinced that further action will make the injury worse.

    No one knows but Kawhi. And maybe he doesn't know for sure.
    Kawhi strikes me as a guy who doesn't think he needs hundreds of millions, because I cannot see him living a lavish lifestyle because he's an introvert. I'd think his decisions are based on how his game is affected, not necessarily how his financial future is affected. Dude never has to work again, ever. He surely knows this.

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    Looking at the team struggling an Kawhi just sitting on the bench, while we not know what's really going on is frustrating. I know we're just fans, but I spend my hard earned money on the Spurs. May it be games, Spurs team pass, Spurs gear, etc. I feel we deserve answers.
    I don't care.


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    He has stated he wants to be the best player in the world and win more championships.

    His front office is handing out 50 million dollar thank you for your service deals to guys who can't play against the primary compe ion in the west and his coach is lecturing the players on civil rights in the film room instead of focusing on improving the on court product. What did Manu say the other day? "We have so much to work on". But Pop thinks lecturing a bunch of 1%ers on social justice is going to help them get past the Warriors and Rockets.

    Can you blame him? The kid is a gym rat and singularly focused on being the best.

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    You don't say that in public.

    This is officially amateur hour for our front office. They are close to losing the plot entirely..Now you can see how much Duncan has covered up for this franchise. The more Buford awkward ass gets to speak and address hitherto unexisting dysfunction, the more he sounds like just another mediocrity..
    There was never really any dysfunction because of Tim TBH. Tim was always the ultimate team player, and big brother in that locker room. Sacrificing his game for years to make it work, bring in other players, and win rings. Yes we are seeing more issues internally now that the ultimate team franchise player has called it a career. Last year masked some issues because Leonard was so good. Now we see them..

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    He has stated he wants to be the best player in the world and win more championships.

    His front office is handing out 50 million dollar thank you for your service deals to guys who can't play against the primary compe ion in the west and his coach is lecturing the players on civil rights in the film room instead of focusing on improving the on court product. What did Manu say the other day? "We have so much to work on". But Pop thinks lecturing a bunch of 1%ers on social justice is going to help them get past the Warriors and Rockets.

    Can you blame him? The kid is a gym rat and singularly focused on being the best.
    There's a lot of truth to this...

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    There's a lot of truth to this...
    Please stop talking....... you're not very bright!

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    He has stated he wants to be the best player in the world and win more championships.

    His front office is handing out 50 million dollar thank you for your service deals to guys who can't play against the primary compe ion in the west and his coach is lecturing the players on civil rights in the film room instead of focusing on improving the on court product. What did Manu say the other day? "We have so much to work on". But Pop thinks lecturing a bunch of 1%ers on social justice is going to help them get past the Warriors and Rockets.

    Can you blame him? The kid is a gym rat and singularly focused on being the best.
    I hope that you aren’t leading anything....... anything!! Oh let me guess, you’re trolling or just dense?

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    Please stop talking....... you're not very bright!
    No, you.

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