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    Boiled down, if it comes to trading with LAC vs not trading Kawhi to tank, LAC is the much better option.

    Hoping they could do better than LAC, like Tatum/Brown, but if not, I don’t think that trade is bad at all and still has some solid rebuild potential even if it’s no where near likely.

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    If the Clippers really give up two lottery picks AND Harris AND take one of PATFO's loyalty contracts just to get someone who's sat out an entire season, has a degenerative injury and now has character concerns too, everyone should be fired immediately.

    The Pistons' pick should be the only pick we offer, and we should refuse to take on any of the loyalty contracts. If a reasonable deal can't be made, so be it.

    You would hope and pray that your 2 lottery picks become half as good as Kawhi. Even with the concerns, you do that deal easy IMO.

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    As you said, younger and more polished offensively with a better 3 or shot. Also, one extra year at a cheaper contract. I don't think the difference between them is that great though. If I thought Hayward would fully recover I might consider him plus brown with the Sacramento and Memphis picks for Kawhi and pau. Ideally, I'd want Tatum and brown plus the pick for Kawhi though.
    Brown is killing the Bucks right now.

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    Brogdon is clutch as . Any way to redo the 2016 draft and pick him instead of the IG baller?

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    You would hope and pray that your 2 lottery picks become half as good as Kawhi. Even with the concerns, you do that deal easy IMO.
    A degenerative tendon injury is a pretty major concern, tbh. We just saw Blake's career get derailed by a similar injury. It's FAR from a certainty that Kawhi will ever be an MVP-caliber player again. Trading the whole team away for a Grant Hill or D-Rose sotuation could set us back a decade.

    I've always liked Kawhi, but I'm being realistic here. He's a huge risk for any team trading for him until he proves he can stay healthy and get back to MVP level.

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    A degenerative tendon injury is a pretty major concern, tbh. We just saw Blake's career get derailed by a similar injury. It's FAR from a certainty that Kawhi will ever be an MVP-caliber player again. Trading the whole team away for a Grant Hill or D-Rose sotuation could set us back a decade.
    Bruh, the whole team? You would be trading 2 assets that you don’t have (like a bonus) and the only player would be Harris.

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    My idea Kawhi offseason is Manu announcing he's coming back and Parker announcing he's retiring, which likely will convince Kawhi of staying, tbh...

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    As I said, the more you consider how Kiwi has tanked his value and the deal you will get back for him, it will be better to hold on to him, see if his knee recovers and he puts on a show for the rest of the league.

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    My idea Kawhi offseason is Manu announcing he's coming back and Parker announcing he's retiring, which likely will convince Kawhi of staying, tbh...

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    Kawhi will sign contract and prove this whole thing was overblown

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    Bruh, the whole team? You would be trading 2 assets that you don’t have (like a bonus) and the only player would be Harris.
    Exaggerating, obviously, but that plus clogging our cap space with a loyalty contract would be a lot to give up if Kawhi's just going to be warming the bench in a suit.

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    I'll put it to you this way, I prefer to take a chance on Aaron Gordon who is 22, has gotten better and has played not only for bad teams but awful coaches. Maybe he pulls the next Oladipo, than Harris or Randle!

    In my dream scenario this year never happened and we have MVPKiwi next year.... I know wake up!!!

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    My idea Kawhi offseason is Manu announcing he's coming back and Parker announcing he's retiring, which likely will convince Kawhi of staying, tbh...
    Don't think there's any love lost between Ginobili and Kawhi either tbqh.

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    I'll put it to you this way, I prefer to take a chance on Aaron Gordon who is 22, has gotten better and has played not only for bad teams but awful coaches. Maybe he pulls the next Oladipo, than Harris or Randle!

    In my dream scenario this year never happened and we have MVPKiwi next year.... I know wake up!!!
    He's an ideal 4 & small ball 5 in today's league.

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    I'll put it to you this way, I prefer to take a chance on Aaron Gordon who is 22, has gotten better and has played not only for bad teams but awful coaches. Maybe he pulls the next Oladipo, than Harris or Randle!

    In my dream scenario this year never happened and we have MVPKiwi next year.... I know wake up!!!
    Gordon can't shoot. You'd rather him than a guy who is entering his prime (26), has actually averaged over 40% from 3 and somewhat realized whatever potential he has?

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    I'll put it to you this way, I prefer to take a chance on Aaron Gordon who is 22, has gotten better and has played not only for bad teams but awful coaches. Maybe he pulls the next Oladipo, than Harris or Randle!

    In my dream scenario this year never happened and we have MVPKiwi next year.... I know wake up!!!
    You would rather have Gordon than Harris + 12th pick + 13th pick?

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    Gordon is 22 and has improved every season. He has more upside than Harris. Easily.

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    Gordon is 22 and has improved every season. He has more upside than Harris. Easily.
    He doesn’t have more upside than Harris + 2 lottery picks. Sorry. No

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    Tobias Harris and Aaron Gordon..ugh, how far we have fallen

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    The only magic offer I would be interested in would be: top3 pick + Isaac + Hezonja (S&T) + Gordon

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    Tobias Harris and Aaron Gordon..ugh, how far we have fallen
    Putting those two in the same post is offensive to Tobias Harris tbqh. One is just an athlete that happens to play bball and the other is an actual bball player.

    Harris is no Kawhi. But he's proven as a scorer/shooter and at least he's been healthy for the last three years. Would be thrilled to get him and two lottery picks back for Kawhi.

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    Ideal: sixers win the #1 pick and trade it with Fultz, Covington and Saric for Leonard
    76ers would never do that. They may win the 'ship this season with what they have

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    they have an offseason like the Lakers had when Kobe wanted to leave, they either fleece the team he's going to or he stays.

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    Putting those two in the same post is offensive to Tobias Harris tbqh. One is just an athlete that happens to play bball and the other is an actual bball player.

    Harris is no Kawhi. But he's proven as a scorer/shooter and at least he's been healthy for the last three years. Would be thrilled to get him and two lottery picks back for Kawhi.
    Harris is a fine a player..my point is that it's sad that the Spurs transitioned from Tim to thinking that Kawhi was going to become the franchise for the next 10 years, only to ultimately reach a point where we're hoping for Tobias Harris and Aaron Gordon to join Aldridge as the go-to guys on a team

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    76ers would never do that. They may win the 'ship this season with what they have
    lol son. They aren't winning the championship.

    Sixers would be crazy to decline the chance of fielding a team of Simmons, Red , Kawhi, Lebron and Embiid.

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