No Safe Spaces

[RandomGuy]

Enemy of the people? Not sure id label it that. Anyone with half a brain knows that fake news exists and is the norm. Use Bou and Chris/ducks for example. Come up with any topic and you can find articles that are in favor or against it, no matter how preposterous it is. Read a well written article? Better check the source before you recommend it.

Outright fake news is by far not the "norm". Sure it exists on the fringes.

How do you determine what is fake?

[RandomGuy]

its funny, fake news was primarily being used by the left to describe those blatantly false social media articles being passed around during the 2016 campaign, but it has largely been hijacked by the right to describe any news they aren't really a fan of... just like how "collusion" has been hijacked to refer to any cooperation by people on the left with any party

Trump pretty much slipped up and admitted he views anything negative as "fake". Someone did a study of negative coverage and came up with 91% of stories about Trump being negative. Then Trump used that exact percentage to describe "fake news" in a tweet.

We pretty much knew this already, but that kinda sealed it.

Democracy only works through negative feedback, and when part of the electorate is programmed in a cult-like way to believe anything negative is "fake", that is dangerous, and corrosive.

[RandomGuy]

Are the media the "enemy of the people"?

Mainstream media is certainly no friend of the people.

So how would "mainstream media" become a "friend" of the people? Be specific.

Mainstream media becomes a friend when they do a better job.

"doing a better job" is not really specific. How would it do a better job?

It's impossible to state the standard of good but imo at the moment they have clearly not surpassed that standard.

If it is so clear, then it should be trivially easy to say how the media could do a better job.

What would the BEST way be for the media to "do a better job" and be a "friend" to the American people?

[shifts to a different topic]

The question remains.

What would the BEST way be for the media to "do a better job" and be a "friend" to the American people?

Stop dissembling. or... keep dissembling. That makes it easy for me to show how dishonest/hypocritical you are. This liberal gets the better of you either way, because at the heart, your arguments are weak, and at some level you know that.

Most (84%) of Americans recognize the importance of news/media to our democracy. They just don't trust the news/media and that trend has been happening for a couple decades now.

Not really an answer. I am pretty confident I know what the real answer for you is, and why you are so hesitant to speak it plainly. If you had any critical thinking skills or intellectual honesty, you might reflect on why you think that. But first, I will continue to give you the benefit of the doubt and allow you to be honest. Maybe you will surprise me.


What would the BEST way be for the media to "do a better job" and be a "friend" to the American people?

[RandomGuy]

random you can keep posting memes of past quotes that i actually agree with but you somehow keep skipping over the fact that our press is out of control and totally a machine of lies. these quotes suggest there's some integrity in the press but when there's not you're just going to keep pushing memes huh?

The press has a lot of integrity, with a few exceptions like O'Reilly and Hannity.

You don't want a free press any more than Trump or Nathan does. Don't lie to me about that.

[sickdsm]

Outright fake news is by far not the "norm". Sure it exists on the fringes.

How do you determine what is fake?

I always read from multiple sources.


Couple different links will give you a drastic different view on the same story.

[sickdsm]

Not really an answer. I am pretty confident I know what the real answer for you is, and why you are so hesitant to speak it plainly. If you had any critical thinking skills or intellectual honesty, you might reflect on why you think that. But first, I will continue to give you the benefit of the doubt and allow you to be honest. Maybe you will surprise me.


What would the BEST way be for the media to "do a better job" and be a "friend" to the American people?

Recognizeing a problem doesn't automatically qualify one to solve it. If he ing had a great solution I'm sure he would have shared it. I swear it's a prerequisite to demand perfect solutions in here to every issue.

[RandomGuy]

Didn't take much to make Nathan run away from this thread.

All I did was ask him to think.

What does that say about his positions?

[RandomGuy]

Recognizeing a problem doesn't automatically qualify one to solve it. If he ing had a great solution I'm sure he would have shared it. I swear it's a prerequisite to demand perfect solutions in here to every issue.

Bull . He can't even define the problem. I had to read something I don't agree with, the media is biased

ing whiney ass echo chamber ty babies who can't think for themselves have been brainwashed by people with every motivation to lie about how biased the media is.

People that about "media bias" don't want "free press" they want ONLY media that says things that they agree with 24/7, and would happily imprison or kill journalists just like in every other ty country on the planet.

Koriwhat is a perfect example.

ing conservative hypocritical pieces of , IMO. "we are for freedom, but only for us, not for you"

smh

[koriwhat]

The press has a lot of integrity, with a few exceptions like O'Reilly and Hannity.

You don't want a free press any more than Trump or Nathan does. Don't lie to me about that.

animals!

lmao everyone but 2 losers i don't even watch huh? who are those others btw? funny how yall loser leftys throw out names like o'reilly and hannity at me when i don't give a about either of them and have never listened nor watched either. i take that back, i saw o'reilly's access hollywood outburst and i know hannity "tick tock"'s a lot from what i read online. every MSM outlet is great as long as they aren't conservative! hahaha ing cliche.

[koriwhat]

Bull . He can't even define the problem. I had to read something I don't agree with, the media is biased

ing whiney ass echo chamber ty babies who can't think for themselves have been brainwashed by people with every motivation to lie about how biased the media is.

People that about "media bias" don't want "free press" they want ONLY media that says things that they agree with 24/7, and would happily imprison or kill journalists just like in every other ty country on the planet.

Koriwhat is a perfect example.

ing conservative hypocritical pieces of , IMO. "we are for freedom, but only for us, not for you"

smh

you're a perfect example of a brainwashed loser. don't put that on me because you suck the devil's . that ain't my problem lemming.

[koriwhat]

btw randompieceof , you have no clue what i am and am not for. you only assume you know. i'm more for blowing up this whole planet and ridding the energy of the universe of those like you even if that means we all go too.

[RandomGuy]

btw randompieceof , you have no clue what i am and am not for. you only assume you know. i'm more for blowing up this whole planet and ridding the energy of the universe of those like you even if that means we all go too.

Somehow I suspect that you have no clue what you are, or aren't, for either. Whatevs.

[koriwhat]

Somehow I suspect that you have no clue what you are, or aren't, for either. Whatevs.

i clearly know. yall left loons just wish everyone else was as clueless as yall and subscribe to your same insane cult mentality.

[Pavlov]

btw randompieceof , you have no clue what i am and am not for. you only assume you know. i'm more for blowing up this whole planet and ridding the energy of the universe of those like you even if that means we all go too.

The day isn't complete until koriwhat wishes death upon the entire population of the Earth.

[koriwhat]

The day isn't complete until koriwhat wishes death upon the entire population of the Earth.

if it rids the planet of those as dumb as you pav, then let's get this show on the road already!

[RandomGuy]

The day isn't complete until koriwhat wishes death upon the entire population of the Earth.

Yeah. KW sort of relegates himself to non-seriousness. I doubt even he takes himself seriously.

Think Nathan will ever try to defend his position? Seems to not have much to say if you get him off his script.

[RandomGuy]

Are the media the "enemy of the people"?

Mainstream media is certainly no friend of the people.

So how would "mainstream media" become a "friend" of the people? Be specific.

Mainstream media becomes a friend when they do a better job.

"doing a better job" is not really specific. How would it do a better job?

It's impossible to state the standard of good but imo at the moment they have clearly not surpassed that standard.

If it is so clear, then it should be trivially easy to say how the media could do a better job.

What would the BEST way be for the media to "do a better job" and be a "friend" to the American people?

[shifts to a different topic]

The question remains.

What would the BEST way be for the media to "do a better job" and be a "friend" to the American people?

Stop dissembling. or... keep dissembling. That makes it easy for me to show how dishonest/hypocritical you are. This liberal gets the better of you either way, because at the heart, your arguments are weak, and at some level you know that.

Most (84%) of Americans recognize the importance of news/media to our democracy. They just don't trust the news/media and that trend has been happening for a couple decades now.

Not really an answer. I am pretty confident I know what the real answer for you is, and why you are so hesitant to speak it plainly. If you had any critical thinking skills or intellectual honesty, you might reflect on why you think that. But first, I will continue to give you the benefit of the doubt and allow you to be honest. Maybe you will surprise me.


What would the BEST way be for the media to "do a better job" and be a "friend" to the American people?

[RandomGuy]

I guess Nathan has time to blather about the academic achievement of some kid whose views he likes... but not to defend his own ty opinions.

Wonder why that is?

[Nathan89]

I've answered you already tbh.

[RandomGuy]

I've answered you already tbh.

Bull you did.

You changed the subject as soon as you could to avoid it.

Stop dissembling. or... keep dissembling. That makes it easy for me to show how dishonest/hypocritical you are. This liberal gets the better of you either way, because at the heart, your arguments are weak, and at some level you know that.

What would the BEST way be for the media to "do a better job" and be a "friend" to the American people?

[Nathan89]

If they stopped pushing lies and narrative so much they'll be doing a better job.

How will we know when they've done that sufficiently?

It's hard to say but at the moment I don't think they have.

[RandomGuy]

If they stopped pushing lies and narrative so much they'll be doing a better job.

How will we know when they've done that sufficiently?

It's hard to say but at the moment I don't think they have.

So who gets to judge what is "lies and narrative"? YOU? Do tell.

Seems to me like you want freedom for yourself, but not for others.

How noble.

[RandomGuy]

If they stopped pushing lies and narrative so much they'll be doing a better job.

How will we know when they've done that sufficiently?

It's hard to say but at the moment I don't think they have.

Maybe you want a strong willed leader like Trump to define what is "lies" and what is "narrative"?

'You know why I [attack the press]? I do it to discredit you all and demean you all so that when you write negative stories about me no one will believe you.'"

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/22/trum...e-stories.html

Seems like you don't want "freedom", other than in the Orwellian sense.

Smells a lot like totalitarianism to me. Cool with you though, right?

[sickdsm]

Closest thing we have to a modern day Einstein , Musk, claims no one believes the media and they lack integrity but RH and the ST crew are pretty sure people like him are idiots. Exactly what are your credentials again?

[Pavlov]

Closest thing we have to a modern day Einstein , Musk, claims no one believes the media and they lack integrity but RH and the ST crew are pretty sure people like him are idiots. Exactly what are your credentials again?

Musk's car got justifiably bad reviews and he declares jihad.

He can grade them any way he wants, but he can't claim to be free of bias.