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    That would be a travesty, and probably THE worst landing spot for him.
    Nah Portland would be the worst landing spot for him.

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    I'd honestly only be happy with #1 since Henderson and Miller both seem risky.
    There's trade back possibilities with them, as many teams will be enamored of one or both. I wouldn't hate trading back to 5,6,7 if we got another nice pick for it. If you get 4 or below, no one is trading up for that.

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    Nah Portland would be the worst landing spot for him.
    Portland would be great. They would move right up in the West if they get him.
    They already have a top league player and veterans and they are deeper than the Spurs who are rebuilding from ground zero with not a single all star caliber player on the team.

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    Outside of Houston the Spurs would be the 2nd worst team for Wemby.

    Even Detroit would be better. They have a better core than the Spurs.
    Last edited by rascal; 04-10-2023 at 06:15 PM.

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    Portland would be great. They would move right up in the West if they get him.
    They already have a top league player and veterans and they are deeper than the Spurs who are rebuilding from ground zero with not a single all star caliber player on the team.
    And horrible trainers and medical staff.

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    And horrible trainers and medical staff.
    Why you think that? You personally know the medical staff?

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    Why you think that? You personally know the medical staff?
    It's just an accident how many star careers have died there.

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    I think I’m being taken too literal with my posts here which granted, it’s a very nuanced topic. When I say “can’t miss”, I don’t mean players who by consensus, are destined to be great. It doesn’t mean either that those players who aren’t viewed as such means they don’t become stars. The keyword here is consensus. What I’m making a point with is how the same fans who outrage later aren’t really being rational when the basis of their judgment is centered around their personal preference with prospects they’re barely genuinely invested in.
    I can think of lots of scenarios where I’m picking at 7 and I leave pissed off I wasn’t picking at 6 (for example, Cam goes at 6 and I’m left picking a Thompson). We didn’t tank for a season to get Anthony Black or Jarace Walker. We tanked to get our alpha.

    However, I’m just not too concerned about the marginal difference in odds that result in picking at 6 or 7 to the point where I care if we finish with the #2 or #3 worst record and I’m loosing my that the Spurs won a few games at the end of the season.

    The objective was to not to finish 6th instead of 7th, it was to ensure the highest odds of #1. With that accomplished, there is no longer any need for teeth gnashing. If you get pick 6 or pick 7 - it’s already a ing disaster.

    Cam is the only guy I see with alpha potential (of course, we never know when there is a Kawhi, Giannis or Jokic sitting there later). So in that vein, I’m going to be upset at the Lord of Ping Pong (who I assume is Christopher Walken) if we don’t get top 4. However, I won’t be mad at the Spurs. They did their part.

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    It's just an accident how many star careers have died there.
    Name them all.

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    I can think of lots of scenarios where I’m picking at 7 and I leave pissed off I wasn’t picking at 6 (for example, Cam goes at 6 and I’m left picking a Thompson). We didn’t tank for a season to get Anthony Black or Jarace Walker. We tanked to get our alpha.

    However, I’m just not too concerned about the marginal difference in odds that result in picking at 6 or 7 to the point where I care if we finish with the #2 or #3 worst record and I’m loosing my that the Spurs won a few games at the end of the season.

    The objective was to not to finish 6th instead of 7th, it was to ensure the highest odds of #1. With that accomplished, there is no longer any need for teeth gnashing. If you get pick 6 or pick 7 - it’s already a ing disaster.

    Cam is the only guy I see with alpha potential (of course, we never know when there is a Kawhi, Giannis or Jokic sitting there later). So in that vein, I’m going to be upset at the Lord of Ping Pong (who I assume is Christopher Walken) if we don’t get top 4. However, I won’t be mad at the Spurs. They did their part.
    Cam has a powerful game and can work on deficiencies like passing and finding the open man. He looks like Kawhi in his power game to the basket.

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    Portland would be great. They would move right up in the West if they get him.
    They already have a top league player and veterans and they are deeper than the Spurs who are rebuilding from ground zero with not a single all star caliber player on the team.
    Their star player is 33. Wemby is 19. There isn’t a more clear case of ‘not on the right timeline’

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    Roy, Oden, Walton are their biggest failures

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    Roy, Oden, Walton are their biggest failures
    Sam Bowie. Darius Miles.

    If Wemby goes there, he won’t last his rookie contract with that medical staff.

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    Roy, Oden, Walton are their biggest failures
    All those were years ago.

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    Their star player is 33. Wemby is 19. There isn’t a more clear case of ‘not on the right timeline’
    Wemby doesn't need a timeline. He's going to be good from the start.

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    Lillard hasn't been able to stay on the floor the past 4 years in a row and only has 3 years of playing a full season.
    His first 3.
    Zach Collins had crap surgery while there and couldn't gt beyond that dark cloud called Portland till he got here.

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    Roy, Oden, Walton are their biggest failures
    Johnny Moore, David Robinson's back, James Silas knee injury,

    go back far enough and you can find cases for every team.

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    Johnny Moore, David Robinson's back, James Silas knee injury,

    go back far enough and you can find cases for every team.
    This is fun.

    Johnny Moore: 520 career games, number retired.
    David Robinson: 987 career games, NBA MVP, HOFer, 2x Champion, NBA 50 and 75 teams.
    James Silas: 685 games played, 2x ABA all-star, 1x all-ABA first team, number retired.

    Brandon Roy: 326 career games, 3x all-star, 1x All-NBA 2nd team, 2x All-NBA 3rd Team
    Greg Oden: 105 career games
    Bill Walton: 486 career games, NBA finals MVP, NBA MVP, HOFer, 2x Champion, NBA 50 and 75 teams

    The point wasn’t that players get hurt or get old, it’s that Blazer’s guys have their career’s cut short. Sure enough, all three of those guys played less games than Moore, who played the fewest of the guys on the Spurs’ list you provided.

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    For reference, Kawhi played 407 games for the Spurs alone. He’s at 628 and counting overall.

    *All these game totals are regular season only.

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    Roy, Oden, Walton are their biggest failures
    In fairness Roy and Walton were amazing before their injury luck. I bet Oden would have been decent too. It’s different than drafting poorly like a Thabeet or Olawakandi. Blazers just have crappy luck.

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    In fairness Roy and Walton were amazing before their injury luck. I bet Oden would have been decent too. It’s different than drafting poorly like a Thabeet or Olawakandi. Blazers just have crappy luck.
    I don’t think anyone is arguing that they weren’t good players, but rather than the Blazer’s medical staff has a long history of really good players career’s being cut short. Maybe it’s just bad luck, or maybe it’s the result of not investing in medical care for their players, idk.

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    In fairness Roy and Walton were amazing before their injury luck. I bet Oden would have been decent too. It’s different than drafting poorly like a Thabeet or Olawakandi. Blazers just have crappy luck.
    It’s not crap luck. It’s a crap medical staff.

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    Wemby doesn't need a timeline. He's going to be good from the start.
    And Dame will be done before he’s old enough to drink.

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    I can think of lots of scenarios where I’m picking at 7 and I leave pissed off I wasn’t picking at 6 (for example, Cam goes at 6 and I’m left picking a Thompson). We didn’t tank for a season to get Anthony Black or Jarace Walker. We tanked to get our alpha.

    However, I’m just not too concerned about the marginal difference in odds that result in picking at 6 or 7 to the point where I care if we finish with the #2 or #3 worst record and I’m loosing my that the Spurs won a few games at the end of the season.

    The objective was to not to finish 6th instead of 7th, it was to ensure the highest odds of #1. With that accomplished, there is no longer any need for teeth gnashing. If you get pick 6 or pick 7 - it’s already a ing disaster.

    Cam is the only guy I see with alpha potential (of course, we never know when there is a Kawhi, Giannis or Jokic sitting there later). So in that vein, I’m going to be upset at the Lord of Ping Pong (who I assume is Christopher Walken) if we don’t get top 4. However, I won’t be mad at the Spurs. They did their part.
    I agree I think Cam has the highest realistic ceiling past Wemb and maybe Henderson people forget he is still only 18 years old I think Miller will be turning 21 when season starts. They a lot of other guys that I think can make contributions in the early second they still gems to be found in the second.

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    All those were years ago.
    What exactly have they done since then? They're just lucky Lillard is loyal, and even that's only been enough to make them a treadmill team.

    LaMarcus had an okay run, but never got them over the hump and then walked.

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