Ringer's top100 list had Devin as a 3-D upside player.
You would think that NBA Front Offices watch more basketball that the dopes who write these articles... but it's debatable sometimes.
If this is the opinion of Devin, then maybe Brian Wright can work his seller's magic and get us a couple of FRPs we can use to trade for an actual good player.
Interesting names on the "touchable" list:
Herb Jones
Tyler Herro
Fox
Keon Ellis
Garrison Matthews
Manu wasn't a franchise player. You weren't winning a NBA championship with Manu as your number 1, which are franchise players.
Good game from Devin tonight against Memphis.
Oh yeah, Spurs lose, Devin pumps in a team worst -17
Not a winning basketball player but at least he puts up cute stats.Good game from Devin tonight against Memphis.
Oh yeah, Spurs lose, Devin pumps in a team worst -17
He gave up all those points right back because Bane got to the rim at will, Devin couldn't do .
Tbh, I wouldn't blame him for it that much because no guard can stop Bane.
He's showing signs of life, but still nowhere near worth the money he's getting.
He's a Kobe worshipper. It shows.
He’s injured but would be very happy with Herb Jones. Spurs need actual defensive minded wings/guards.
Vassells defense is scary bad and it seems to be flying under the radar amongst the general public.
Yeah, I kind of view the Spurs subreddit as the general consensus of casual Spurs fans, and they seem to think Devin is a good defender and then get super defensive when you point out that he is in fact a quite horrible defender.
This loss was on Wemby and Paul those are the guys who underperformed the most. Paul v Morant is a no go though, awful matchup for us. Paul is just a stop gap obviously.
Well even on here the general consensus was Vassell was a good defender while Keldon Johnson was awful. I think the can use draft help almost anywhere you look if/when we churn this roster some. Which we obviously need to.
edit: Vassell was a good defender year before last. I first noticed the gripes about him not defending well enough a bit last year on here.
Yes you were, with the right team around.
Castle was second worse with -14 but had 26 points. Devin actually outplayed Bane's stat line, but y'all keep going with your agendaGood game from Devin tonight against Memphis.
Oh yeah, Spurs lose, Devin pumps in a team worst -17
I should have qualified this with the majority who saw/still see DV as near untouchable are probably right in that PATFO have him marked as untouchable just think it is actual lunacy if true.
Spurs have most of this core as untouchable.
It's almost like these two guys playing these types of game isn't conducive to winning
When is the Trophy Ceremony for Vassell's Statline victory over Bane?
The problem is B Wright is the guy reading those articles and buying the Devin hype 😂
Devin Vassell ranked at #72 of top 100 NBA players. Wemby #6 CP3 #99
https://nbarankings.theringer.com/
Enough is enough yo.
DV is capable of doing tons of damage without a lot of time with the ball in his hands.
A guy like Castle needs to dribble to get his shot at the moment.
We get a guy like Fox, who attempts nearly 30% of his field goals after 7+ dribbles and nearly 60% of his FG after at least 3 dribbles will definitely take most of those opportunities away from Castle.
For comparison, DV shoots 35% of his field goals - by far his highest % of shots WRT dribbles by some 12 points - on ZERO dribbles.
Vassell is likely not our 2nd option of the future, okay, we get it. But you trade him for someone who needs the ball constantly IE most any all-star out there, you're just going to run the treadmill because guys like Castle WILL NOT get the extra touches - quite the opposite. I don't care about +/-. To me, it's clear Vassell is untouchable because he's a guy who finishes plays as his bread and butter. That's exactly what you want your 3rd option to be doing. If only Castle had an outside shot, or Point Sochan worked, or CP3 wasn't 40, etc etc.
Sauces: https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1628368/shots-dash
https://www.nba.com/stats/player/163...Regular+Season
Scene: Brian Wright waking up in an Eastern European opium den, logs onto the Ringer and reads this article. Wakes RC up from his drunken slumber: "Hey RC, did you know we have a top 100 player in Devin Vassell!"
From the article: "As he begins his second contract this season, Vassell has built a strong floor for his career as a quick, athletic 3-and-D wing with the potential for more."
Yep, sounds like these guys definitely have seen a lot of Devin Vassell tape
This is good stuff, and I appreciate it.
I've repeatedly said (as have others) Devin is at his best as a 3rd or 4th option who isn't playing ISO ball and spending his time dribbling. I'm not sure Fox is an apt comparison, be he is a PG who plays in a completely different style of offense. But just looking at our team, I'd like to see Devin's offensive game develop somewhere inbetween where he is today and Champ, who takes 75% of his shots with 0 dribbles and 93% of his shots with less than 3 dribbles. Right now Devin is at 35% of his shots with 3 or more dribbles. I'd like to see that number get closer to 20-25%. He's also taking nearly 25% of his shots over 10 feet in tight or very tight coverage. Compare that to Fox (12%), Champ (10.5%) or someone like Desmond Bane (10.7%). Devin shots are more difficult than they should be (some of that is on Devin, and some of that may be on the lack of talent around him).
I don't want Devin to become a spot up shooter like Champ, but I do want to see his offense become a bit more centered around off-the-ball movement and quick offense. Most of the time, there is no reason for Devin to dribble the ball more than 3 times to create a shot.
I will strongly disagree about +/-. It's not a perfect catch all stat, and it's also not that helpful of a stat when everyone on the team is all negatives (because your team is really bad) or all positive (because your team is really good), but when it has a polarity against others on the team, it's quite telling. After all, the only stat that matters at the end of the game is whether you have more points than the other team. If you pump in great individual stats, but your team loses points when you are on the floor... then you aren't contributing to winning.
Vassell was the one half decent non-Wemby defender the first 25-30 games last year but then fell off a cliff and has stayed at the bottom of it since.
vassell has shown a reasonable ability to get to and finish at the rim. while julian has made some strides when it comes to beating closeouts, vassell is much better at that part of the game. i have no issue with vassell putting the ball on the floor to make something happen, but he cant become a ballstopper
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