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    It feels like the next coach will almost 100% have to come from within the organizational tree. Continuity. Honoring Pop. Less fear of people losing their jobs with big turnover. Etc.

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    It goes back a lot further 😂. Trading Scola because he ‘played the same position as Duncan’, then trotting out Kurt Thomas and Antonio Mcdyess next to Duncan for the next 3 years. Refusing to play Tiago his rookie year and only 19 MPG his second season.
    I thought one of the reasons they traded Scola was his lack of defense as well as position? They wanted a center so went with Fab instead.

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    Why not just directly say that White Men should not be NBA coaches like you want to?

    Does your opinion extend to Latinos? Asians? Women?

    Just would like to know where TD 21 stands.
    Sounds like similar vibe from before.

    Obviously, white privilege exists but it's not so simple in the NBA Coaching world as it used to be. Monty Williams was a disaster in Detroit. Bickerstaff seems to have completely turned them around.

    Silas was a disaster in Houston and Ime completely turned them around.

    Various factors in each case but doesn't seem to have anything to do with race.

    Not aimed at you Scott. Just spitballing.

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    Sounds like similar vibe from before.

    Obviously, white privilege exists but it's not so simple in the NBA Coaching world as it used to be. Monty Williams was a disaster in Detroit. Bickerstaff seems to have completely turned them around.

    Silas was a disaster in Houston and Ime completely turned them around.

    Various factors in each case but doesn't seem to have anything to do with race.

    Not aimed at you Scott. Just spitballing.
    Yep. There are some great black coaches. There are some atrocious white coaches. But TD 21 seems to think that no white coach is worthy and that all black coaches are victims of narrative.

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    Yep. There are some great black coaches. There are some atrocious white coaches. But TD 21 seems to think that no white coach is worthy and that all black coaches are victims of narrative.
    His hate on Kenny Atkinson and nonsense about how he didn't make any difference for the Cavs makes much more sense now, tbh.

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    Black, white, purple or green Jenkins is not a very good coach.

    Utah needs to give Will Hardy back to the Spurs. Wasting his time. They don’t need him.

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    Yep. There are some great black coaches. There are some atrocious white coaches. But TD 21 seems to think that no white coach is worthy and that all black coaches are victims of narrative.
    If that's what you've got out of what I've said, then you're not nearly as intelligent as you seem to think you are.

    Still no answer why Jenkins is a supposed good coach (whatever that means) and no brainer hire.

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    Impressed how people can see the chuckle s Jenkins has been working with for players and the records and seeding he consistently gets. What's going on? You actually think this is a great roster? Nearly everybody has vastly over performed under him.

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    It feels like the next coach will almost 100% have to come from within the organizational tree. Continuity. Honoring Pop. Less fear of people losing their jobs with big turnover. Etc.
    Becky seems like the obvious choice, just gotta offer her enough to leave the WNBA.

    Good coach? Check.

    Inside hire? Check.

    Knows Pop and the system? Check.

    Players like her? Check.

    HUGE PR boost for the Spurs and the NBA? Check.

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    Grizz not even getting the 'new coach bounce' effect.. So much for this Iisalo genuis

    It was such a foolish decision. You don't fire a coach sitting at 5th seed with 8 games left unless (a) Udoka Situation Redux (b) he got into a fist fight with a player or a higher-up (c) he shot/killed somebody on the street.

    Memphis brass are delusional if they think they have a contending roster..
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    I still think Budenholzer is getting sacked even if they trade KD.. so Spurs should have a choice between two pretty good candidates in Bud and Jenkins.

    Not sure who I would lean towards rn. Bud has a longer track record of success with the Hawks, then Bucks, albeit this years Suns team was a failure but they did have a poorly constructed roster and Bud got some good success from some lineups. Durant-Booker-Jones-Dunn 4-man lineup has a +8.9 net rating in 241 minutes across 29 games. He just refused to play Dunn anywhere near enough, he was their only good perimeter defender. Then they had a clvjnarion of Nurk-Plumlee-Richards at centre which is a disaster.

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    Hurley would be an incredible coach

    But I guess it's an ins utional choice

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    Hurley would be an incredible coach

    But I guess it's an ins utional choice
    It’s leaking out into the public domain,but he’s kind of an abuser, Bobby Knight style. For the first time in almost 3 years, his team isn’t coming off a championship, and people are starting to talk about his demeanor and the way he carries himself. You can’t make it in the NBA as a screaming and shouting coach. The players will just tune you out.

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    It’s leaking out into the public domain,but he’s kind of an abuser, Bobby Knight style. For the first time in almost 3 years, his team isn’t coming off a championship, and people are starting to talk about his demeanor and the way he carries himself. You can’t make it in the NBA as a screaming and shouting coach. The players will just tune you out.
    Does it even need to leak out? I don't even follow college basketball, but from those few interviews I've seen it's obvious that Hurley is a psycho control freak.
    Would never work long term.

    College ball is a joke, I'd rather have someone showing great promise in European leagues than a college coach.

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    Grizzlies look super foolish right about now. They deserve it, though. It's absolutely idotic to fire a coach just before the playoffs when you're the 5th seed with a real chance at the 4th seed and homecourt in the first round. They should have done it back in February if they wanted to do it, so as to have given the team a chance to adjust. No idea what they were thinking. Did they want to torpedo their season and lose in the first round? They may have just prematurely ended their season before the playoffs even begin. It seems like there is some real idiots running the show over there.
    Like others mentioned, unless Jenkins did something really, really bad, this was the absolute wrong time to fire him. It looks like he got way more out of their roster than most would have, and they overachieved with what he had to work with. I guess we'll see as there is still a slight chance they could recover and play well in the playoffs, but as of right now, it's not looking good at all.

    And if Bobby Hurley has that type of demeanor/personality, then I've changed my mind on him and no way do I want him as Spurs coach. That won't work in the NBA at all when the players are making more money than you (not unless he has a team full of Tim Duncans or maybe Steph Castles who can take that and still go out there and play without being fazed. 98% of NBA players won't react well to that, though).

    As for Jenkins, what type of personality does he have? I want the Spurs to get someone with a balance like Pop in his better/best seasons. I actually think Becky might have that balance where players will like her and she can also be firm when need be. As ty as it is, I just don't know if the Spurs would seriously consider her.
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    The good news is that there are some great coaching options for the Spurs. My order would be:

    Becky
    Jenkins
    Vogel
    Brown
    Mitch
    Bud

    Snyder, Hardy and Ime would be pretty awesome, but, likely unattainable, at least for next season

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    Yes, that is a nice list.

    What do you think about Becky's chances for real?

    If Pop does come back, maybe those other three could be attainable another season if things don't go well a year or two down the road for them.

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    The good news is that there are some great coaching options for the Spurs. My order would be:

    Becky
    Jenkins
    Vogel
    Brown
    Mitch
    Bud

    Snyder, Hardy and Ime would be pretty awesome, but, likely unattainable, at least for next season
    If ATL spirals down and loses the play in, and I see that as very possible with both CHI and MIA coming on like freight trains, ready to pounce on ATL, Snyder could become available.

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    If ATL spirals down and loses the play in, and I see that as very possible with both CHI and MIA coming on like freight trains, ready to pounce on ATL, Snyder could become available.
    That's my hope. I like Jenkins and Bud, but Snyder would top my list.

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    If ATL spirals down and loses the play in, and I see that as very possible with both CHI and MIA coming on like freight trains, ready to pounce on ATL, Snyder could become available.
    That's the spirit!

    ATL downward spiral which gets us their top 4 pick and their coach. That's my Make A Wish dream scenario.

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    The good news is that there are some great coaching options for the Spurs. My order would be:

    Becky
    Jenkins
    Vogel
    Brown
    Mitch
    Bud

    Snyder, Hardy and Ime would be pretty awesome, but, likely unattainable, at least for next season
    i dont doubt that becky is a good coach and has the chops to coach at the NBA level. i just wonder if there would be an issue with players not buying in

    id also have Bud above Mitch and Brown

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    That's the spirit!

    ATL downward spiral which gets us their top 4 pick and their coach. That's my Make A Wish dream scenario.
    Top 4 pick is unlikely, even if they bomb out of the play in. Right now, they would be in position 12/13. That tie would put them at about 6% for top 4. Their FO might get frustrated and fire the coach if they fade that badly.

    I’d love to poach Snyder, though.

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    i dont doubt that becky is a good coach and has the chops to coach at the NBA level. i just wonder if there would be an issue with players not buying in

    id also have Bud above Mitch and Brown
    I like the slightly somewhat available list, but I would put Mitch at the bottom. All the rest have a history of winning at some point, other than Mitch - and a coach needs to exemplify that it is about winning/competency or the players just won't buy in. Players quickly tune out a loser coach. I think Mitch just needs some more time- where is anybody's guess.

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    If ATL spirals down and loses the play in, and I see that as very possible with both CHI and MIA coming on like freight trains, ready to pounce on ATL, Snyder could become available.
    Add to the list of idiotic takes by exstatic that will never happen

    Maybe tell us more how ATL is still overachieving and are due for a downfall in their last handful of games?

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    If that's what you've got out of what I've said, then you're not nearly as intelligent as you seem to think you are.

    Still no answer why Jenkins is a supposed good coach (whatever that means) and no brainer hire.
    Yep, we're all just a bunch of morons here. You're the only intelligent one.

    There's multiple pages of people talking about what they like about Jenkins. You choose to ignore those on behalf of your agenda. At least it's a departure from your typical weird obsession with Steph Curry and the Raptors, I guess.

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