I know y'all get invested with different options as the draft approaches, but the idea of the Spurs signing 4 firsts to guaranteed deals and developing all of them at the same time is really.... bad. We're talking Sochan/Wesley/Branham and Samanic/Keldon bad.
The only draft in recent memory you could argue they were able to develop 2 rookies simultaneously is the Vassell/Jones draft. The organization is not suited to do it and this year is no exception. I'd be reasonably surprised if 14 isn't moved for future capital.
Well you are right about this - I don't even expect us to necessarily add more than 1 rookie on a guaranteed deal. We can all still talk about what *we* would do though (but honestly I wouldn't take 4 rookies either... I just have a longer list of late FRP prospect I like than normal.)
Taking multiple rookies isn't the problem as much as taking projects, a group of Flagg/Harper + Lendeborg/Clifford + Kalkbrenner/Proctor isn't the same as another made of Ace Bailey/Fears + Newell/Essengue + Hugo Gonzalez/Hansen Yang. We just need to avoid multiple rookies in the latter category (like, say, Samanic, Primo, Blake Wesley, Hernandez, etc).
Multiple teams have done that with success, in 2021 New Orleans took Trey Murphy, Herb Jones and Jose Alvarado, while OKC took Giddey, Tre Mann, Jeremiah Robinson Earl and Aaron Wiggins; in 2022 OKC took Chet, Dieng, JDubb and Jaylin Williams. Imagine if those teams had said "we have too many rookies, let's take just one"? They would have missed on a lot of talent.
What the Spurs need to avoid is clogging the pipeline with projects that take their entire contract just to find out what you have and whether it's a viable NBA player, you should know in 2 years with 90%+ certainty whether you want to keep the player long term or not, and if not you just move on. But the draft is still a numbers game, and you need to take your chances even if you're good at it.
Someone print out 1000 copies of this and mail them to One Spurs Way Attn: Brian Wright.
couldn't have said it better. Reports say the Spurs are high on this class, so I hope we add 3 guys.
There was a lot of buzz over the years about the 2025 draft class being really deep. This year's Atlanta pick was viewed for a long time as being the most valuable of the assets the Spurs got in the Dejounte trade. It ended up being one ping-pong ball away from jumping to #1.
I mean while people don't think it has a lot of All-Star level talent, this draft is loaded with role players. There are 30-40 players in this class who could stick in the NBA as solid contributors.
Interesting interview.
https://youtu.be/T_JXSYH-0ic?si=fwjIEc4t9-I6_Apd
Seems like a smart kid. Well-spoken and confident. Def the type of personality PATFO would like tbh.
Man, the Spurs really need another pick in the first round if the really want Maxime. He seems like he'd fit the team great personality wise, but I just don't think pick 14 is the number to draft him at.
As someone said a day or two ago, this could be the last lottery pick the Spurs have for a while and I think you want to take a bigger swing for someone with upside to be a starting level player than a role player. I don't know, glad I don't have to make the decision. Maybe Raynaud could become a really, really good player worthy of picking at number 14. I really like him. Just watched that draft combine interview in the post above, and he's really sold himself nicely there. Definitely the type of person the Spurs would want. Darn, I wonder if the Stanford connection is going to come into play with Mitch.
I think getting hung up on not wanting to use the 14th “lottery pick” on a player that isn’t ranked that high is unproductive. I’m sure there are several higher ranked players that for one reason or another get erased from the spurs board after our #2 pick is taken. Now, all the players remaining get bumped up. Same thing happens on a smaller scale as other teams make their picks. It’s a dynamic process and deciding not to take someone with a particular pick number is just nuts. If it was that easy, it would only take a team a few seconds to submit their pick.
lol when I see “not ranked that high” that tells me all you do is form your opinion based on what others evaluations are. Go watch the player. Go look at stats and analytics. Go look at the measurements and athletic testing. The spurs don’t give a how high the player is ranked nor should you.
”I’m actually the best 7 footer shooter in the history of NCAA with the most 3 pointer in the season.” Confident, but not humble. He’s a chess-player and a Stanford guy who excels in Science. A smart kid. He’s selling himself to teams as part of the process. I buy it, but I expect that alpha mentality to fuel that drive to continually get better. I don’t care how other people rank. Spurs could care less. Primo was against everybody’s opinion, but it didn’t deter the Spurs to draft him at 12th. And Reynaud checks a lot of boxes, and can play both 4 and backup 5. He’s a fellow Freshman. The more I read about him, the more I suspect he will be Spurs pick at #14. I still like a bruiser backup big at #38.
”I’m actually the best 7 footer shooter in the history of NCAA with the most 3 pointer in the season.” Confident, but not humble. He’s a chess-player and a Stanford guy who excels in Science. A smart kid. He’s selling himself to teams as part of the process. I buy it, but I expect that alpha mentality to fuel that drive to continually get better. I don’t care how other people rank. Spurs could care less. Primo was against everybody’s opinion, but it didn’t deter the Spurs to draft him at 12th. And Reynaud checks a lot of boxes, and can play both 4 and backup 5. He’s a fellow Frenchman. The more I read about him, the more I suspect he will be Spurs pick at #14. I still like a bruiser backup big at #38.
Last edited by John B; 05-24-2025 at 03:03 PM.
Spurs should be able to trade themselves into a position to draft Raynaud while not buring the 14 pick on him.
No more frenchies in the lottery this decade pls
He’s honestly in the same boat as Danny Wolf for me. Productive players but very… average looking. Doesn’t pop off the screen.
That will be ideal! But there is always risk that another team takes him before us.
I don't think FO takes risk like that. If they really like Raynaud, they will likely draft him at 14.
Agreed. I know PATFO don't care about public opinion and will do whatever they please, but 14 is too high for Raynaud imo. There will be better, younger prospects on the board. Hopefully they go with the latter if they don't trade the pick altogether.
Not a fan of this alpha side either. But it's not supposed to be something very American, this foolproof self-confidence?! Perhaps he has learned his lesson too well and is imitating local usage...
Overconfidence is rarely a good advisor. Seeing him join Victor in this sense would perhaps do him more harm by reinforcing him in this inclination... Intelligence should not turn into a spirit of superiority. And to be honest, this fault is sometimes even expressed on the floor: what's the point in spreading his legs so roughly and getting back on the basket when he dunks? It's anecdotal, but it can also reveal a form of arrogance. On the pediment of Stanford University is written this maxim in Latin "reflectum im rectum contemplus ut flexis". Which basically means "can't flex here."
Let him go to Boston. He will take the opportunity to continue his studies at Harvard... Oh no, not possible, the reigning alpha male has decided that foreigners are no longer welcome there.
(I have the solution: the Spurs keep the 14th pick, they exchange two second round picks for a third pick in the first round, they draft Alpha Raynaud, Raynaud does not score a single basket during the summer league, for x reason, the Spurs are dominant inside without him, and little by little, with regained humility, Beta Raynaud integrates into the rotation by putting himself at the service of his leaders.)
It's going to be a long time until the start of the season...
Any teams in the 15-25 range that could trade down to our #38 and multiple future 2nd round picks? That's probably not enough to move up, right?
I'd like to get Flemming, then Sorber...but if both are gone, I'm totally fine with Maxime. In a perfect world, we can get two of them. If we invest some of our seconds it might be in play.
My guess is, the Spurs already promised Maxime the #14.
Btw: With all the Primo mentions, I would have thought, we took him at #6 or #7. Really forgot about it "only" being #12
Are we sure raynaud not gonna be another zach collins type big?Cant handle another big clanking opens 3s
and getting bullied in the paint another 4 years.
It’s the picks after Primo that still hurt, Sengun #16, Trey Murphy #17, Jalen Johnson #20, Cam Thomas #27, Herb Jones #35 even Austin Reaves Undrafted. I just console myself that it all led to drafting Wemby
Santi Aldama, Aaron Wiggins, Moses Moody, Quentin Grimes, Ayo Dosunmu... That class was overflowing with useful players, it was one of the best drafts in recent memories, with really good players and even stars well into the second round, and Spurs managed to make the worst pick of the entire draft. You couldn't have made a worse pick if you had picked a name by writting each one on a piece of paper and drawing one at random.
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