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    my comment of harper being well-off had zero to do with his work ethic or him earning his way, etc...

    its just a fact...

    if your dad is a millionaire and an nba champ (not sure how many rings) and you grew up on 3rd base (like white people)

    then you grew up privileged...

    not putting him down and i am 100 percent certain he worked his ass off and earned every bit of his contract/success
    but a fact is a fact and was born into a wealthy situation...
    Born on the third base works in the business normal people world, but for athletes you’d still have to put in the work and genuinely love the game. Sure he’d get more and better training that most other people don’t get and you can connect with people who can come and see you early and give you pointers, but given the ridiculously small pool of people who can make it to the top, and you can’t really hide like you do in business (getting people to do your work and getting all the credit), rich kids making it to the nba could actually be a good sign because they are willing to go through all of that hard work despite having a pile of money available already

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    Counting all the born on third base white people who dominate the NBA.

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    Born on the third base works in the business normal people world, but for athletes you’d still have to put in the work and genuinely love the game. Sure he’d get more and better training that most other people don’t get and you can connect with people who can come and see you early and give you pointers, but given the ridiculously small pool of people who can make it to the top, and you can’t really hide like you do in business (getting people to do your work and getting all the credit), rich kids making it to the nba could actually be a good sign because they are willing to go through all of that hard work despite having a pile of money available already
    its just a plain old fact…

    kid grew up well off…

    if you were born and your father was royalty…
    of course you would still have to practice your craft and dedicate yourself to reach the top rung

    but you were born to royalty and you would have the best education, the best connections, the best tutors, the best chefs, the best guidance, the best equipment, the best facilities to hone your craft in,

    Good genes most likely, a home where excellence was encouraged and fostered

    and so many other things in your daily life to give you the best advantage…

    lets face it…we grew up watching the original nba rosters and they paved the way…but these last few years we are watching their offspring follow their footsteps and its good to see and i am just stating facts…

    no one should be getting defensive…Del curry was surely a factor in setting his kids on the right path….Jaren jackson and his star kid now, etc…

    pretty sure these kids know they are lucky and im guessing most of them have been taught to be humble because black people were not “born on third base” in this country….

    so hopefully their fathers learned from their fathers about the rough road they had to endure…and each generation has opportunities the last ones did not

    but this new generation of ballers had a privileged upbringing and their fathers paved the way…

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    NBA is like lots of other industries in the United States now, especially entertainment. If you come from money, you're much more likely to succeed. Look at a barely talented person like Taylor Swift. She comes from an outrageous amount of money. For basketball, those AAU circuits are extremely expensive to take part in, and most of those top players hire expensive coaches. It's like how Hollywood is covered in nepo-kids. It's always been that way to some degree, but is now worse. At some point recently the Golden State Warriors, almost all their players had fathers who played in the NBA.

    That's not to rag on Dylan. He's a really good player regardless, and seems to come from a very good family.

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    All good!

    I think the privilege for Dylan is nature and nurture of growing up with a father in the league and an ultra-compe ive mom. Obviously, the money did not hold he or his brother back. When the NBA and college basketball are part of the family business, a kid grows up with tremendous insight on what it might take to get there themselves. Others are relying on coaches and guessing what it really takes to make it in the league. Also, Ron Harper Sr. was such a stellar player and had a hard-nosed style of play. That must've been part of his upbringing too. I doubt Andrew Bynum or DeAndre Ayton will have sons that play in the NBA. I love seeing all the 2nd generation players and coaches in the league.
    Yes, that makes sense. More so the insight of what it takes to make it there from his father and mother rather than going with people that never made it to the NBA, they'd be guessing or have an idea of what it takes, but since they haven't, it's closer to a guess. The main thing I was thinking of when I asked that question, maybe the money could have afforded him better training, and access to more stuff such as food, nutrition, training facilities, coaching etc. (a few other people have already posted about this on this page before I read their replies), but then it's probably more the experience of his father and basketball knowledge from his mother than helped the most. I definitely believe he and his brother have worked hard and it's not just natural talent in his case.

    Great point about guys like Ayton and Bynum. I'd still be interested to follow Ayton's kid if ever had a kid good enough to make it. That's be super interesting, especially if he ends up better. It's also cool to see the kids of players make it and see how they do. I was always interested in Michael Jordan's sons, Shaq's kids etc. when I was young thinking they might be great players, but doesn't look like any of them panned out so I sort of stopped looking at 2nd generation players from superstar players. I always thought Kobe would have had a great possibility if he had a son (maybe Gianna would have been the one in the WNBA to reach that potential) to have a superstar player.

    I'm sort of blanking right now, but can't think, who are the best players of an NBA superstar as their fathers? I can't think of any being better than their dads off the top of my head. Dads that were role players, yes, but can't think of any superstar player's kids that have turned out to be better players? I guess role players are able to install a work ethic easier as they had to grind more in their careers?
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    Yes, that makes sense. More so the insight of what it takes to make it there from his father and mother rather than going with people that never made it to the NBA, they'd be guessing or have an idea of what it takes, but since they haven't, it's closer to a guess. The main thing I was thinking of when I asked that question, maybe the money could have afforded him better training, and access to more stuff such as food, nutrition, training facilities, coaching etc. (a few other people have already posted about this on this page before I read their replies), but then it's probably more the experience of his father and basketball knowledge from his mother than helped the most. I definitely believe he and his brother have worked hard and it's not just natural talent in his case.

    Great point about guys like Ayton and Bynum. I'd still be interested to follow Ayton's kid if ever had a kid good enough to make it. That's be super interesting, especially if he ends up better. It's also cool to see the kids of players make it and see how they do. I was always interested in Michael Jordan's sons, Shaq's kids etc. when I was young thinking they might be great players, but doesn't look like any of them panned out so I sort of stopped looking at 2nd generation players from superstar players. I always thought Kobe would have had a great possibility if he had a son (maybe Gianna would have been the one in the WNBA to reach that potential) to have a superstar player.

    I'm sort of blanking right now, but can't think, who are the best players of an NBA superstar as their fathers? I can't think of any being better than their dads off the top of my head. Dads that were role players, yes, but can't think of any superstar player's kids that have turned out to be better players? I guess role players are able to install a work ethic easier as they had to grind more in their careers?
    Domantas Sabonis has had a better NBA career than his dad, but his dad was so old and beat up that he was hardly a superstar by the time he got to the NBA. And Domantas still was never as good as Arvydas.

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    Good analysis there on areas of improvement

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    So he has the tools to become a good defender in the pros......

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