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    Here's a more complete video, showing most of the confrontation. As I suspected, the agent freed his weapon and instead of letting the person lunge at him again, he fired it into his face, ending the confrontation. Guy's probably lucky it wasn't a 9mm round. He doesn't seem two much worse for taking a pepper round to the face.


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    I stop by and check in every few weeks to see which one of you losers is the last man standing on this dying website. It’s between you and chump, always has been, but since Trump broke you for the second time my money is 100% on you to be the last man standing here… , you practically are now. There’s only 4 active posters left and you use this place 24/7 as your own personal diary. Might be fun to go on the new active spurs site and get a betting pool going on which one of you two losers lasts longest here.

    You used to be a respected poster here worthy of honest discussion about opposing viewpoints. Trump broke you, seek help dude. Stop doing what you do here it ain’t healthy.

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    that’s a quality HD video of her accelerating right at him while he’s in front of her suv thus justifying the shoot. Did you actually mean to post this or is this just another classic winehole posting the wrong link in thd wrong thread during your typical spam sessions?
    Lol "right at him". He barely made a slight move to get out of the way.

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    Fact.


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    "It should be crystal clear to everyone that the real threat to community safety is the ICE agents harassing, targeting, detaining — and in some tragic cases — killing our neighbors. This violence is unacceptable, it is criminal, and it is against the cons ution of the United States.”
    I couldn't find any "tragic cases" of Porlanders being killed by ICE. Do tell.

    Meanwhile, Tren de Aragua has been responsible for untold misery in Portland and elsewhere.

    How do y'all do it? How do you find yourself on the side of murderous gangs, narco-terrorist despots, etc.. every single time? I'm serious, I want to know.

    Meanwhile, Kate Steinle, Jocelyn Nungaray, and Laken Riley were unavailable for comment.

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    Lol "right at him". He barely made a slight move to get out of the way.
    So according to you if he doesn’t make “a slight move” she runs him over. Lol you’re such a dumb you just proved my point. Him moving or not doesn’t matter regarding use of force. Her intent doesn’t matter either. The only thing that matters is if he felt a threat to his life. That’s it. This one is open and shut according to your statement. He’s lucky the roads were icy and those tires didn’t grip cause she would have sure as run him the over had the roads been dry.

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    Voluntary manslaughter

    or

    MURDER

    No other outcome. The nazi placed himself in harms way and went against his training by
    1) putting himself in harms way
    2) shooting at a moving vehicle

    every round a police officer fires has to be justified…

    1) first round/bullet/weapon fire = a good lawyer might place a tiny bit of doubt in a jury…he will recite the old “officer was in fear for his life as the vehicle moved towards him” (a better prosecutor will destroy this by pointing out #1 above) …maybe they will be dishonest enough to trot out the old “officer could not see the drivers hands and the glare of the windshield prevented the officer from seeing if a weapon was pointed at him blah blah lie lie”

    2) the second shot/bullet….welp…this one is not going to go well…as the nazi was standing next to the drivers window and the vehicle had cleared him and missed him and no other officer or civilian was endangered now….

    so the pulling of the trigger into the vehicle when there was zero imminent danger is unjustified and no jury of anyone’s peers will buy the the lawyer tries to sling…

    3) bullet #3 (and #4- if there was a #4) are no differnt than two….so…

    a jury if they feel like the officer honestly believed he was in imminent danger might want to call this involuntary manslaughter due to shot #1 maybe being somewhat justified…but again..its a long long shot…

    most likely none of the weapon discharges are legally justified as this was no serial killer on the lam but a mom who had just dropped off her 6 year old child at school and zero jury members bought the fantasy that she was some domestic terrorist who did her terrorism activities after dropping jr off at school!

    it was fun seeing dip TSA STILL defending the pedophile rapist white supremacist…always fun seeing brown people defending nazi’s

    Murder.

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    Voluntary manslaughter

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    MURDER

    No other outcome. The nazi placed himself in harms way and went against his training by
    1) putting himself in harms way
    2) shooting at a moving vehicle

    every round a police officer fires has to be justified…

    1) first round/bullet/weapon fire = a good lawyer might place a tiny bit of doubt in a jury…he will recite the old “officer was in fear for his life as the vehicle moved towards him” (a better prosecutor will destroy this by pointing out #1 above) …maybe they will be dishonest enough to trot out the old “officer could not see the drivers hands and the glare of the windshield prevented the officer from seeing if a weapon was pointed at him blah blah lie lie”

    2) the second shot/bullet….welp…this one is not going to go well…as the nazi was standing next to the drivers window and the vehicle had cleared him and missed him and no other officer or civilian was endangered now….

    so the pulling of the trigger into the vehicle when there was zero imminent danger is unjustified and no jury of anyone’s peers will buy the the lawyer tries to sling…

    3) bullet #3 (and #4- if there was a #4) are no differnt than two….so…

    a jury if they feel like the officer honestly believed he was in imminent danger might want to call this involuntary manslaughter due to shot #1 maybe being somewhat justified…but again..its a long long shot…

    most likely none of the weapon discharges are legally justified as this was no serial killer on the lam but a mom who had just dropped off her 6 year old child at school and zero jury members bought the fantasy that she was some domestic terrorist who did her terrorism activities after dropping jr off at school!

    it was fun seeing dip TSA STILL defending the pedophile rapist white supremacist…always fun seeing brown people defending nazi’s

    Murder.

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    I couldn't find any "tragic cases" of Porlanders being killed by ICE. Do tell.

    Meanwhile, Tren de Aragua has been responsible for untold misery in Portland and elsewhere.
    It's untold because it doesn't really exist to the extent you fantasize.

    you made up an entire drug cartel in Venezuela. Embarrassing.

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    Gotta hand it to the looney leftist women they have way more balls then you soy boy keyboard warriors



    How many more soccer mom’s do you betas sacrifice before reaching out to your Dem leaders and telling them to tone down the rhetoric and to stop encouraging you looney s to keep interfering with government duties? Blake at least you so t married anymore and don’t have to deal with these crazy lefty s

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    Gotta hand it to the looney leftist women they have way more balls then you soy boy keyboard warriors



    How many more soccer mom’s do you betas sacrifice before reaching out to your Dem leaders and telling them to tone down the rhetoric and to stop encouraging you looney s to keep interfering with government duties? Blake at least you so t married anymore and don’t have to deal with these crazy lefty s
    When will your side's tiny- ed men just accept that women will never love them and neither will their fathers and they should just kill themselves instead of innocent women and children?

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    Leaving my house with the ‘don’t tread on me’ flag on it, putting on my mask and tactical gear, strapping on my weapon, and roaming the cities and towns that didn’t vote for my favorite candidate as an armed anonymous agent of the state kidnapping and shooting people who I don’t like the look of

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    ICE is very unpopular

    ICE’s approval rating has collapsed since Trump took office — from +16, according to YouGov/The Economist polling last February, to -14as of November. In a flash poll conducted on Wednesday, ICE’s job approval came in at 39% approve, 52% disapprove for a score of -13. That’s statistically indistinguishable from the -14 in November. I’ll be watching how this changes.


    ICE’s rating began to really decline in late April - early June 2025. That’s around the time the president’s senior advisor for immigration policy, Stephen Miller, ordered his infamous demand for 3,000 immigration arrests per day. Soon after that, the news turned harshly against Trump, with the unpopular deployment of the national guard to Los Angeles and bad optics in Chicago.


    By late June 2025, YouGov/Yahoo had ICE at 39% favorable, 52% unfavorable. The new January 2026 numbers (which do not yet reflect movement in opinion as a response to the killing in Minneapolis on Wednesday) are identical. The damage stuck.
    https://www.gelliottmorris.com/p/sup...hing-ice-is-at

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    The anti-ICE backlash matches a broader decrease in support for Trump’s immigration agenda. In my average of multiple polls, Trump started out with about net +15 support among adults for deporting undo ented immigrants. That number fell almost thirty points, to net -15, between April and mid-July 2025. While Trump has recovered some ground on deportations since then, he has recently sagged again to -9:

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    But the topline really understates the intensity of public backlash to ICE and its tactics. In February 2025, just 19% of Americans held a strongly unfavorable view of ICE, per YouGov/The Economist. Today, 40% do. It’s not just that there has been a general move in opinion against the agency. There is a growing and intense, angry opposition to it across America.


    So what happened? Americans didn’t suddenly become woke open-borders enthusiasts. My theory is that the growing backlash to ICE is a byproduct of people learning about the agency’s enforcement tactics.


    Back in January 2025 (before most of the controversial raids that have taken place in the last year), AP-NORC found that 64% of Americans opposed arrests at schools and 57% opposed arrests at churches. The administration ignored these warnings, targeted migrants at church and school anyway, and it has suffered the consequences in the court of public opinion.


    After one Chicago raid, in which American citizens were dragged out of their homes in the middle of the night and detained for hours, a Data for Progress poll found Americans nationwide opposed detaining citizens 66 to 26%. The firm also found 70% of Americans oppose zip-tying children during raids, which ICE also did in Chicago. That 70% overall percentage includes 53% of Republicans.

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    According to Civiqs, 42% of U.S. adults now support abolishing ICE entirely, while 50% oppose getting rid of the agency. That compares to 29% in Summer 2018, when the phrase was a rallying cry for progressives, 21% on Election Day 2024, and 37% in mid 2020, during the recent peak of the social justice movement. As of Jan. 8, independents had moved 15 points toward abolishing the agency in the past year, and even Republicans had increased their support by 6 points.



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    One more sign of how far things have shifted: protesters are now more popular than ICE. The January 2026 YouGov poll found 44% approve of protests against ICE; 42% disapprove. Compare that to the 39% approve, 52% disapprove for ICE.

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    Simple question: What happens if PTSDICE doesn't shoot white mother three times in the head?

    She drives away and lives.

    All the ICE agents also live because none of them got hit by her car.

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    The Renee Good the media is not reporting...

    Renee Nicole Good was Minneapolis ‘ICE Watch’ ‘warrior’ who trained to resist feds before shooting

    I have questions, I'll start with these three:

    How many such "ICE Watch" missions had Good participated in before her fatal encounter?
    Why did Rebecca Good, her wife, exit the vehicle before Renee pulled into the road to block ICE?
    How many other "ICE Watch" participants were at the scene when this occurred?

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    I agree with this tweet:


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    So according to you if he doesn’t make “a slight move” she runs him over. Lol you’re such a dumb you just proved my point. Him moving or not doesn’t matter regarding use of force. Her intent doesn’t matter either. The only thing that matters is if he felt a threat to his life. That’s it. This one is open and shut according to your statement. He’s lucky the roads were icy and those tires didn’t grip cause she would have sure as run him the over had the roads been dry.
    No, I think he moved in front of the vehicle to start with while she was trying to leave. Then he easily got back out of the way without having to dive, jump or run.

    There's no intent for her to kill anyone. Do you think she had intent to kill? Don't be a pussy again and answer this time.

    And also give an update on the injuries to the agent that had to shoot for his life.

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    I agree with this tweet:

    This is stupid; you and this choad are trying to soothe yourselves about your support of state murder of US citizens.

    We all knew this was inevitable when Trump made a secret police made up of ill trained thugs who are told they can do anything they want and lie about it with the guarantee the administration would try to cover up for them at all costs.

    You want a secret police that can murder US citizens you don't like.

    I don't.

    That is the difference between fascists like you and regular people like myself.

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    The Renee Good the media is not reporting...

    Renee Nicole Good was Minneapolis ‘ICE Watch’ ‘warrior’ who trained to resist feds before shooting

    I have questions, I'll start with these three:

    How many such "ICE Watch" missions had Good participated in before her fatal encounter?
    Why did Rebecca Good, her wife, exit the vehicle before Renee pulled into the road to block ICE?
    How many other "ICE Watch" participants were at the scene when this occurred?
    Your questions are irrelevant to the murder.

    She was murdered.

    lol at all the innuendo in the Post article.

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    A study in leadership under similar cir stances. The first from a law enforcement professional having zero involvement in the incident of which she speaks. The second from a law enforcement professional whose city was recently roiled by an incident similar to what took place in Minneapolis this week.





    the Chicago Police Chief says something, at the beginning, that hasn't really been made a part of the conversation. He said if you use a vehicle to box in a law enforcement officer (as Renee Good was doing), it is reasonable to conclude you're being ambushed. That's why I asked the earlier question, how many other "ICE Watch" members were present.

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    The Renee Good the media is not reporting...

    Renee Nicole Good was Minneapolis ‘ICE Watch’ ‘warrior’ who trained to resist feds before shooting

    I have questions, I'll start with these three:

    How many such "ICE Watch" missions had Good participated in before her fatal encounter?
    Why did Rebecca Good, her wife, exit the vehicle before Renee pulled into the road to block ICE?
    How many other "ICE Watch" participants were at the scene when this occurred?
    Was she trained to kill feds?

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