No, I have no idea who it was for specifically, they just heard it was to the Hornets.
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No, I have no idea who it was for specifically, they just heard it was to the Hornets.
It better not come out that the Spurs were about to get JR Smith and then Rod Thorn baller blocked the Spurs AGAIN and came in and got another deal done with the Hornets instead.
Rod Thorn would be public enemy number one. JR Smith on the Spurs would have been a great piece for the future. Imagine a player with Kobe like potential.
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Wasn't it the Hornets who got screwed on the Kobe deal?
Exactly.
P.S.
Where is Vlade when you need him?
I like Dunleavy. I don't like Dunleavy with 4 years and $40 mil left on his deal. I imagine the Spurs feel the same way.
If it was the Hornets, then the Spurs were probably looking to dump Barry for nothing so they'd get under the lux tax threshold. Then they could sign Spree or Thomas to be their 4th swing. To that end, I bet that Spree to SA is a sure thing if the Spurs can't get Thomas. At this point the cost of signing a vet player for the remaining 29 or so games plus the lux tax hit is not that great.
Thorn has hung on the Spurs' nuts before (ie Nonad).
Just thinking about JR Smith with the Spurs makes me happy in my pants.
My guess is that it was Barry for Nachbar or Barry for a 2nd round pick in 2012.
So it's pretty safe to say that unless we get Spreewell (which I actually think we will) or Tim Thomas, we're not aquiring anyone else?
Probably, unless someone else of value hits the waiver wires before March 1st.
Also, every indication is there that the Spurs are not enthused with Barry. Maybe it's not enough to lead them to sign a Sprewell for the remainder of the season plus incur the lux tax penalty, but double the vet min prorated for close to 1/4th of the season is not a huge expense. Given that his name has come up and judging by Pop's public comments, it does seem like he's on his way if they can't land Thomas. Trying to move Barry cements that, IMO.![]()
Man...Why do I feel so disapointed?
I wouldn't be. At best the Spurs were going to move Barry for Nachbar. More likely they were going to move him for nothing. Barry is better than nothing at this point.
I agree, I didn't really want anyone to get traded. On the hand, I still feel that this team needs help.
To me, the help the team needs is up front. The Spurs still don't really have anyone up front to consistently help TD on the glass. The closest is Mohammed. Now that Pop has him back in the starting lineup that might improve, but a Reggie Evans, for example, would have been quite nice.
clandestino said he heard from his friend who works at the hospital
It's like Pop has a rule. If the media finds out any details about a deal before it is inked, he nixes the deal.
or nurses with conservative friends^
i'm pretty sure we'll pick up someone (Thomas or Spree) soon, more then anything we just need to get healthy. If we get Manu, Tim and Horry at close to 100% we'll be fine, if horry or even manu isn't 100% by the playoffs it would be nice to have Thomas or Spree
Man, sorry, I might be in the minority here, but I am just disgusted by what I'm reading on these boards. I can't believe everyone here is clamoring for Sprewell and Thomas. It's like all the championships have made y'all spoiled and you forgot what it means to be a Spurs fan, and how WE'RE DIFFERENT than all the other organizations in sports.
Maybe I have a polyanna at ude toward the Spurs, maybe I'm naive, but I'd like to think that this organization places as much (if not more) importance to a player's character and his off the court behavior as his play on the court. I thought this organziation learned from its mistakes of the past, like Rodman.
I have to say that as a Spurs fan, I'm almost more proud of what our team represents than our on the court success. Our players don't act like clowns or jackasses after every made or missed basket, they don't rack up technicals, they don't get featured in controversial stories on ESPN, and for the most part, they take less money than market value to play here. , we're even leading the charge to make the NBA a global league, which I love. My favorite sports article of all time was the one Ric Bucher wrote about our team prior to last season's playoffs,
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthre...ight=work+play
because I think it summed up what it's like to be a Spur and what a priviledge it is to root for them. We have the best thing going in all of sports, even more so than the Patriots, because after we win championships, our players don't spend the next three months telling the media how humble and disrespected they are, and our coach doesn't criticize other teams' players on The Tonight Show.
Getting either Sprewell or Thomas would go against everything this organization stands for. First off, getting Sprewell would be a complete slap in the face to PJ. Sure, his public comments might say he's okay with it, but it's public posturing. And also, Spree is D-U-N done. He sucked last year. Second, Thomas is making 14 mil this year, but refused to play hard because he was unhappy with his situation. Just gross. And I've never been impressed with his play, either. I can't believe anyone, least of all us, would want these guys. If winning les is more important to Spurs fans than anything else, I guess I'm not a real Spurs fan. To borrow a phrase from Larry Brown, I'd rather "win the right way."
Your outlook is certainly interesting, but it doesn't jive with what the current reality is. The Spurs are like any other team. The leadership will bring in players who they think can help the team win. That's been shown time and time again.
Pop has been trying to get Spree for years. Glenn Robinson, at the very least, is a criminal, wifebeater, and has traditionally been a malcontent. The team had no qualms there, and he ended up really helping. The team openly pursued Jason Kidd, another wife beater. Van Exel intentionally attacked a ref when he disagreed with a call, resulting in a long suspension. Pop had no trouble bringing him in.
Those are just some examples since the Rodman era. I'm sure that others here would be happy to provide additional examples.
The Spurs are just like any other team in that regard. They do what they feel is necessary to win and make money. David Robinson may have clouded your judgement in this regard, but don't be fooled just because the Spurs have had many, many great guys. The team will still pursue malcontents and criminals if it seems like it's in the best interests of the organization.
Valid points.
Remember when Horry threw a towel at his coach's face?
Man, I forgot that one. Remember when TD said the league over the dress code? How about when Jack brought the Spurs back in Game 6 of the '03 WCF or was hitting those 3s in Game 6 of the '03 Finals?
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