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whet is a triangel?
Ginobili’s antics may have worked in getting the Kings best player thrown out.... But Don’t count on it in the later play-off rounds... A triangle has three sides but one straight line...
Sined,
Ben Walace.
BTW, since I deleted all your video links.
Here's a freeze frame of the contact -- not really an elbow.
whet is a triangel?
Ginobili’s antics may have worked in getting the Kings best player thrown out.... But Don’t count on it in the later play-off rounds... A triangle has three sides but one straight line...
Sined,
Ben Walace.
Haslem was suspended also
i agree. it makes me sick.
BTW, since I deleted all your video links.
Here's a freeze frame of the contact -- not really an elbow.
Even in the NBA's press release they call it a forearm
I didn't even think Artest should be fined. The NBA went too far on this one.
Manu is a notorious flopper and just pulled the greatest flop in NBA history. It has to be the first time a flop ended with the suspension of another player.
If Manu actually was punched by Artest's forearm, he would have gotten in Artest's face. Manu isn't one to back down in such cir stances. Manu felt the contact and flopped to draw the foul. Should have been the end of the story.
Manu also flopped earlier in the game pretty hardcore ... but it turned out it was Nazr Mohammed and not a Kings player who ran into him.
Sorry Kings fans, you got screwed.
I know. Many people here are calling it an "elbow to Manu's head". That's why I mentioned it.
That was one of the funniest plays of the game. Nazr accidentally tapped Manu and he flopped like a fish. Then quickly regained his composure when he realized it was Nazr and ran back down.
Manu also flopped earlier in the game pretty hardcore ... but it turned out it was Nazr Mohammed and not a Kings player who ran into him.
I think you're wrong - and Kori's "freezeframe" is the evidence. That ain't no "Flop" - Manu got popped - and Artest did it intentionally. He deserved what he got.I didn't even think Artest should be fined. The NBA went too far on this one.
Manu is a notorious flopper and just pulled the greatest flop in NBA history. It has to be the first time a flop ended with the suspension of another player.
If Manu actually was punched by Artest's forearm, he would have gotten in Artest's face. Manu isn't one to back down in such cir stances. Manu felt the contact and flopped to draw the foul. Should have been the end of the story.
Manu also flopped earlier in the game pretty hardcore ... but it turned out it was Nazr Mohammed and not a Kings player who ran into him.
Sorry Kings fans, you got screwed.
It's a flop. A flop is exaggerating contact. Manu does it all game every game. It's part of what he does. A flop doesn't mean he wasn't touched.
Shiiiyit, I don't even think it's forearm. It was more like wrist.
Congrats, Manu.
Playoff Manu > All
Can some of you guys donate some cash so I can get some glasses, because I've seen the play, I recorded it on my DVR, and it sure as looks like a forearm above the shoulders to me...
Even if Manu did flop, it shouldn't matter, you can't make contact above the shoulders to another player with your forearm....
As can clearly be seen by Kori’s Freeze Frame...Tim Duncan slammed into an unsuspecting Ron Artest from behind causing the contact...Why isn’t Tim Duncan Suspended?
Intentional: ofcourse
And manu always put a little theather on th court, that's his play, that the way he is.
But Ron did it on purpose
do you think the spurs might have a let down in game 2? and the kings play harder after getting embarrased? i think the starting lineup will be bonzi at smallforward and kevin martin at shooting guard.
Since when? It happens at least a dozen times each game.
If you go by that theory, then I guess they should suspend Manu too for busting Artest's lip with his elbow on the first play.
You must be ing blind, the muscle part of his forearm, right before you get to the eblow hits Manu on the head...
Manu flopped, but Artest carried that elbow through.
I've watched the link on a ton of other more naive message boards.
You can also see artest watching Manu come through the screen, get in position... set his arm up, look away and follow through.
It was totally intentional.
The one that was MORE intentional was the one he tried to hit Duncan with, but that he whiffed on.
It was obviously inadvertent, I don't see how you could possibly say the same about Artests contact...
Thank you, apparently you have 20/20 vision....
I'm not even disputing that it was intentional or not. I think he should be fined, but suspension is excessive.
Manu even said in the postgame that it wasn't a hard hit and it was just normal in game contact.
I don't agree with that. I played high school and college basketball and got popped several times coming over screens. As you are cutting over the screen you can't see the opposing defender who is guarding the guy setting the screen until you actually come around the screen. Even then you are most likely looking for the ball. I know that Manu has good acting skills, but from past experience I can honestly say that it is almost impossible to see that shot coming enough to be able to flop the hit. This game moves fast, and to flop the hit he would have to have made up his mind before the contact. As well, there was no way for Manu to know that Artest was gonna lay a forearm on him before the contact. If you really think about it, every time manu flops it's when he can see the contact coming. If he would have flopped that forearm there would have been a slight delayed reaction.
We saw it wasn't hard
He didn't have to see it coming. He exaggerates contact the instant he's hit. He's done it his whole life.
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