IT WAS RESTING ON HIS BICEP!!!
I flat out don't think the foul should have been called. But you know what? Its the best form of Karma ever to strike someone. The Mavs feel our pain now, and they sound worse than we ever sounded. Pop never went off the way that ass AJ has. It is classic.
Excercise bikes everywhere should be afraid. Very afraid.
Does someone want to go back through this thread and count the number of times Mavs_troll_41 has been completely owned? It may be a record for a single thread, only due to said dumbasses inability to realize his own humiilation.
I think it was, technically, the right call from watching it live and all but one picture I have seen. As a 17-year fan of the NBA (ballpark about 60-100 games a season in television), I have seen that call, with a little contact as their was, decide a game of that magnitude probably twice. Especially, with all of Wade's histrionics (flailing arms, etc) after the whistle blew. Usually that's an indication that the press row can get a better shot of Wade out of control flailing his arms than when he got hit.
Was it correctly called? That's a very subjective term. If I was a flat-out Dallas Mavericks homer, I could say that "no, because it puts a 85% foul shooter at the line." I'm not that guy.
I'll say this: When there's a foul call, I usually have one of three reactions:
1.) Disappointment in the team that committed the foul.
2.) Initial disbelief and eventual acceptance of the foul call.
3.) Absolute flat-out mad that the referee made that call.
My reaction, a day after seeing the shot and talking about it is number 3.
Why? Because Michael Jordan used his off-arm to scoot Bryon Russell out the way to win the 6th NBA Championship. Because Ben Wallace wasn't whistled for a foul on his signature block on Shaquille O'Neal in what could be his last Pistons' home game. Because Jerry Stackhouse, after he fell down, wasn't given the benefit of the contact he received from Jamal Mashburn and Alonzo Mourning on that same Miami court six years ago.
Contact happens, and what I saw there was a preferential call over what I have watched consistently be called in this league for 17 years.
Spurs fans arguing with Mavs fans is expected, but Mavs fans arguing against their own is not. It's a very good day. There are a few Mavs fans that I hope will continue posting after the season is over, but I'm still looking forward to the end of all this.
I love the excuses for how its not a foul. Either way, a foul occurred. If it wasn't Dirk, then it was Harris. They both touched him. I'm just glad it was called.
Hopefully my Kings won't poop their pants when they make the finals like your Mavs have the last 3 games. Congratulations, you will always have your second place trophy.
BAkriD, do you or do you not believe that the Kings were cheated in the 2002 WCFs?
No, they choked bigtime, period. If they could have hit a in' free throw or a couple of wide open jumpers (Christie and Peja) in game 7 they would have won a le, plain and simple. The officiating was poor at times in favor of both teams, just like every other series. They had tons of chances to win that series and blew it, just like the Spurs did against the Mavs and now the Mavs are doing against the Heat. Poor sports blame officials.
Breaking NEWS
Just got word from Gorilla's daily newspaper, the Gorilla Gazette. The number one victim for most wanted for gorilla gang raping is out.
Here he is:
Mark Cuban
IMO, none of the pics that have been posted show definitive proof that a foul took place.
Hopefully this helps.
i think there was a contact on the foot of Dwyne that's why he was off-balanced...
What does this even mean? Is it really worth cross-posting into every thread? Do you post everything this many times, or just the really stupid meaningless ?
So you guys rant about a "picture tells a thousand words"(Harris' hand on Wade's elbow) explain this? This happened right after Terry "fell" to the floor.
I also read some nuts trying to post the nba rules after the 2 minute mark with no facts, so here are some.
Back court Violation Rule
Section VI-Frontcourt/Backcourt
a. A team's frontcourt consists of that part of the court between its endline and the nearer edge of the midcourt line, including the basket and inbounds part of the backboard.
b. A team's backcourt consists of the entire midcourt line and the rest of the court to include the opponent's basket and inbounds part of the backboard.
c. A ball being held by a player: (1) is in the frontcourt if neither the ball nor the player is touching the backcourt, (2) is in the backcourt if either the ball or player is touching the backcourt.
d. A ball being dribbled is (1) in the frontcourt when the ball and both feet of the player are in the frontcourt, (2) in the backcourt if the ball or either foot of the player is in the backcourt.
e. The ball is considered in the frontcourt once it has broken the plane of the midcourt line and is not in player control.
f. The team on offense must bring the ball across the midcourt line within 8 seconds. No additional 10-second count is permitted in the backcourt.
EXCEPTION: (1) kicked ball, (2) punched ball, (3) technical foul on the defensive team, (4) delay-of-game warning on the defensive team or (5) infection control.
g. Frontcourt/backcourt status is not attained until a player with the ball has established a positive position in either half during (1) a jump ball, (2) a steal by a defensive player, or (3) a throw-in in the last two minutes of the fourth period and/or any overtime period.
Frontcourt/backcourt status is not attained until a player with the ball has established a positive position in either half...
I really don't care about game 5 anymore, I just want to get some facts straight and that pictures sometimes can't prove...
I could use some "illegal" youtube videos to prove even more, but I know how senstive you guys are.
just waiting for tomorrow so i can celebrate the mavs biggest loss in their franchise history....the championship!
cant wait till you pussies cry!!!!!! DALLAS MAVERICKS - CHEATERS&CHOKERS 06!
This picture shows Wade's arm being grabbed by Harris. Just look at the shape of the shadow on Wade's arm.
The only way to explain the wedge shape of the shadow (green highlight) is if the fingers are making contact. If it was a picture of the hand in front of Wade's arm then the shadow would have been more like the red highlight, but also because of the distance that the hand would have to be in order not to make contact, the shadow would be a lot less intense.
^^ this is starting to get ridiculous... stop with these blury zoomed in pics already. tomorrow will only tell who will win and the heat pretty much decided they wanted it more so be it.
No kidding!
So who really shot JFK?
I nominate Jason Terry for first nut-shot from the grassy knoll
Please refer to him as "JET," thank you.
How much is this info worth to you?No kidding!
So who really shot JFK?
For the record, I only zoomed the pic to be able to draw the wedge shape on it. You can see the shadow best on the orig photo.
Devin Harris isn't grabbing Dwyane Wade's elbow.
Dwyane Wade's elbow is grabbing Devin Harris.
Who gives a flying
Go Heat
Look at the Dirks left hand - it whatt position it is, and check the pic where you clearly can see Devin grabing Wade. In what position is Dirk hand?I saw that image the first time, and from that angle and depth of field I couldn't make any determination about where Harris was relative to Wade other than a rough guess by approximation of size. I certainly don't see Harris "holding" anything, neither in that image nor in the video where Wade moves cleanly by Harris.
In this image, you can see that Harris is at least 15 cm away from Wade's arm, with his fingers somewhat curled in a manner that they would not be if they had just been removed from a grip on Wade's arm. (i.e., had Harris been gripping or even just raking Wade, the fingers would have straightened after the fingertips lost contact)
The actual foul called, on Nowitzki, I'll grant you. It's a terrible, shameful call, but there actually was contact between Dirk and Wade's jersey, however incidental. There was no contact between Wade and Harris.
The picture was not made at the same time
Where were all these bag Mavs' fans to complain about blown calls at the end of regulation in game 7 and for that matter games 3 and 4 in the Spurs - Mavs series?
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote
