Ludden: Pryzbilla receptive to Spurs

[Mr. Body]

That didn't make any sense at the time.

Big Dog was not only playing well, but he showed some backbone by puthing Rashard in his place. Instead of supporting him, or benching him for a bit to let him cool down, Pop benched him for basically the next few games. Then stuck him in garbage time if I remember right. Eh.

The Spurs like to be a very even-keeled team. They follow Duncan in this and, while it ticked a lot of us off that they didn't retaliate against some of the hard fouls, it helped them in the end. While both Denver and Seattle got highly emotional and lost focus at times, the Spurs never did and came out alive. The FO seems to avoid players who disturb this equalibrium.

[T Park]

Thats what youve got Bonner for.

People don't understand.

You bring over Javtokas, you see in the regular season how he does VS Dirk and what not, and see how Bonner does on him, and when the playoffs roll around, you go with what you think will work.


I like JP, hes a hardnosed guy, hes agressive, he plays good D, and as has been said he blocks shots like a mofo.

Hes better than Rasho in that, hes VERY agressive, and does NOT pass up his shot.


Is he as good as Rasho on clearing the lane for Manu and Parker, and helpside D?

I would think so.

IMO 5 million for him, and JP being bettter than Rasho and Nazr, but being cheaper than both?

How can you not go wrong?

[Please_dont_ban_me]

The Spurs like to be a very even-keeled team. They follow Duncan in this and, while it ticked a lot of us off that they didn't retaliate against some of the hard fouls, it helped them in the end. While both Denver and Seattle got highly emotional and lost focus at times, the Spurs never did and came out alive. The FO seems to avoid players who disturb this equalibrium.

Really?

I recall Pop sending Felton Spencer into the game in the past to put a hard foul on people, same with Kevin Willis. I don't know why we're so damn soft now. =/

Soft isn't the right word...we're tough, mentally...and hold our ground. But we need to take some a little more personal. We need a god damn bruiser as a 12th man.

[Mr. Body]

Giving a hard foul is one thing, playing dirty is another. The Spurs will not play dirty, and that's what hurts the Reggie Evans idea.

But yeah, the team as composed now is very finesse-oriented. That hurt against Dallas. Their normal playing style does not bruise anybody. Miami's style - Shaq and Mourning, especially - just naturally punishes people. Dallas wilts under that punishment.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

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Not much to go off of, but still rather disturbing.

[texbound]

I guess it's possible that Portland and SA could do a S&T of both Joel and Nazr. Portland would still need a C and they could still try to trade Zach Randolph (I read they were looking to do so). This way both teams are still able to use their MLE for someone else. However, the key would be to get Nazr to agree to it. I guess if you offered him a little more than the MLE he might take it. It's long shot, but if the Spurs could pull this off then they could still pursue Jared Jeffries or someone else (Speedy).

If the Spurs could pull this S&T then they could threaten to sign Speedy outright. The Hornets might blink and agree to take Barry in exchange. Then the Spurs could turn around and offer the full MLE to Jeffries. Hey, it's possible.

[texbound]

Everyting that I listed above is, imo, a perfect scenario. The Spurs get everything they want, a C, a backup PG, and long SF. Rarely do perfect scenarios work, so this is just a pipe dream.

[SPARKY]

I guess it's possible that Portland and SA could do a S&T of both Joel and Nazr. Portland would still need a C and they could still try to trade Zach Randolph (I read they were looking to do so). This way both teams are still able to use their MLE for someone else. However, the key would be to get Nazr to agree to it. I guess if you offered him a little more than the MLE he might take it. It's long shot, but if the Spurs could pull this off then they could still pursue Jared Jeffries or someone else (Speedy).

If the Spurs could pull this S&T then they could threaten to sign Speedy outright. The Hornets might blink and agree to take Barry in exchange. Then the Spurs could turn around and offer the full MLE to Jeffries. Hey, it's possible.

Yes. Spurs need to find a couple S&T's to be able to bring in talent. Relying on the MLE and LLE is going to make it tough to get the job done.

[SPARKY]

Going after a Scot Pollard with a 3 year, $11 mil deal makes a lot more sense than Pryzbilla at $30 to 35 mil over 5 years.

[duncan2k5]

no way...scott pollard? you seen him play since he came in the league? he is worse than olwakandi. joel is worth the money. sign him and you will see. dont, and there goes championship hopes. i'm glad some of you arent the GM. you would probably draft Van Horn instead of KVH because he is "a long, versateile three who can guard dirk." that last comment wasn't mean to you SPARKY

[strangeweather]

Przybilla recorded a 350 the first time he took the SAT.

Ouch. Is he a native English speaker?

[SPARKY]

The Spurs need someone who can be a placeholder in the starting lineup at the 5 for about 20 minutes a night while TD handles the rest. Also, with Javtokas coming in, the Spurs are looking for someone who is capable if he is not of doing that. I'd rather the Spurs be cheap in that regard than break the bank for a marginally better center. If the Spurs dole out a huge contract to that center then you can bet the rest of their personnel moves will be limited over the next 2 to 3 seasons, at least. They'll also about that contract too as if they did nothing wrong. Best to avoid the problem up front and not throw a lot of money at the current crop of free agent centers.

[furry_spurry]

Again, I'm sure RC has made more than one phone call.

Yes, but the Spurs are notoriously slow-moving, and this summer is the summer of "get my deal done quick!"

[furry_spurry]

I still wonder how everyone assumes Javtokas is coming-- if we spend the whole MLE on Przybilla. First, it does not go along with the claims that Javtokas' deal would have a third year option, and second, maybe Robertas won't come if he thinks he isn't going to play much.

[SPARKY]

Yes, but the Spurs are notoriously slow-moving, and this summer is the summer of "get my deal done quick!"

eh, "slow moving"? They're usually fairly quick when they know what they want. And fairly decisive too. Pop was in freakin' Slovenia on Radoslav's doorstep on the 1st day of free agency 2003 with a 6 year, $42 mil offer.

The problem with this offseason is that any number of teams have major cap room and then you have every team with their MLE. Too many variables to wade through and make a definitive selection at the outset.

[SPARKY]

I still wonder how everyone assumes Javtokas is coming-- if we spend the whole MLE on Przybilla. First, it does not go along with the claims that Javtokas' deal would have a third year option, and second, maybe Robertas won't come if he thinks he isn't going to play much.

They've already reached an agreement with Javtokas. See the other thread on the 1st page.

[SPARKY]

The other major issue this summer is that so many free agents are restricted free agents. The Spurs realistically will not have a shot with a restricted free agent unless a sign and trade can be worked out.

I do not anticipate the Spurs being able to reach agreement with many free agents during the 1st two weeks of free agency. After some of the bigger unrestricted free agents agree to new deals will the picture become clearer for the Spurs.

[TDMVPDPOY]

i reckon we should just get a cheap center, i got a feelin our center will be comin in the next draft. or ian comin over.

[JUUOT]

i was busy for canada day, enjoying the fireworks of the NHL free agency (i am an ottawa senators fan) and i have to catch up with a 9 pages long thread...

We have 3 needs PG - atthletic wing - center

The way i look at it replacing both nazr and rasho by javtokas and JP for the LLE and MLE would feel just right to me.

Beno is the the back up PG

and now you have Scola's right - Brent and Oberto to trade for your athletic wing.

I do not see what is wrong in the scenario. We slightly upgrade our centers while paying a lot less.

[SPARKY]

i reckon we should just get a cheap center, i got a feelin our center will be comin in the next draft. or ian comin over.

Consider:

Javtokas - this summer starting salary under $2 mil
Mahinmi - next summer starting salary under $1 mil
Scola - next summer starting salary under $2 mil

I'd rather see that than the Spurs giving Pryzbilla $5 or 6 mil a year starting this summer.

[SPARKY]

i was busy for canada day, enjoying the fireworks of the NHL free agency (i am an ottawa senators fan) and i have to catch up with a 9 pages long thread...

We have 3 needs PG - atthletic wing - center

The way i look at it replacing both nazr and rasho by javtokas and JP for the LLE and MLE would feel just right to me.

Beno is the the back up PG

and now you have Scola's right - Brent and Oberto to trade for your athletic wing.

I do not see what is wrong in the scenario. We slightly upgrade our centers while paying a lot less.

The center need is a bit questionable. TD plays half the game at the 5. The real need is to find the best bigmen to play alongside him.

[SPARKY]

The Spurs can fill out a bigman rotation for what Pryzbilla is commanding this summer in the market. Spurs might be best served to pass on him, use their international farm team to fill out the bigman rotation and then make their major commitment(s) to perimeter players (ie future starting small forward and backup point).

[SenorSpur]

At this point, they do not have a productive center under contract. At this point, Spurs have a big hole in the middle of their lineup and it has to be filled.

They have no choice. They will have to either sign Pryzbilla or resign Nazr.

[SPARKY]

They had two legit centers and both were black holes in the Dallas series. It's not that big of an issue.

[SenorSpur]

With Rasho and Nazr, at least they had a two-headed combo center. With Rasho now out of the way (thank god), they need to sign Pryzbilla or resign Nazr - one or the other. After which, they need to bring Javtokas as a backup big.