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    Though the Spurs still have their $5 million exception to spend, team officials have said they aren’t adverse to beginning the season with Duncan, Fabricio Oberto and Lithuanian Robertas Javtokas manning the center position as a committee.
    Hooray for cheap ass ing owners!!!

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    Hooray for cheap ass ing owners!!!
    lol

    Cheap owners?

    So Pop can't speak up?

    He's that scared of Holt?



    Give me a ing break.

    Can't accept the talent in free agency is crap and the Spurs have learned from past mistakes.

    Wait, that's too complex for you.

    Now if you'll excuse me, I have a freeway to build with Oprah while we listen to Nsyinc Boys but we have to get it done before Charles Oakley comes and steals my pictures.

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    And now there's a group of you who are so desperate to sign a center that you are willing to overpay a Rasho clone like Przybilla just to have someone? It's not about Holt being cheap.

    The irony is delicious. And almost as funny as Detriot signing Nazr. I, for one, will not miss Butterfingers Mohammed.
    Why do you call him Rasho clone, because he's white?

    He doesn't play anything like Rasho.

    I see people say Rashoclone over and over. I guess they have never seen Przybilla. Rasho takes about 1/2 his shots from outside and only 6% of his shots are dunks. Przy takes about 80% of his shots from inside (27% of his overall shots are dunks). They are nothing the same on offense.
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    What is our cap situation 4 years from now? There may be a reason that 5th year was a stickler.

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    Sweet!

    Holt can save $5M
    I dont see anywhere where it said they would not spend the exception at all.

    Jumpy much?

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    What is our cap situation 4 years from now? There may be a reason that 5th year was a stickler.

    After the 4th year, that's when Duncan and Ginobili's contracts are up. Tony's the only one under contract in that 5th year.

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    After the 4th year, that's when Duncan and Ginobili's contracts are up. Tony's the only one under contract in that 5th year.
    All the more the reason why the fifth year wouldn't have made much of a difference. The Spurs have shown the ability to get out of bad contracts if they need to. Plus by that time, the Spurs run will be over so having an extra $6M or so on the cap wouldn't have made a difference.

    So now the Spurs are saving money for when Duncan and Manu are finished.

    Fantastic.

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    Cheap owners?

    So Pop can't speak up?

    He's that scared of Holt?
    Maybe one day when you have a job you will understand why what you suggest about Pop confronting Holt is so re ed. Maybe.

    Can't accept the talent in free agency is crap and the Spurs have learned from past mistakes.

    Wait, that's too complex for you.
    It's obvious the Spurs haven't learned a ing thing, considering that the Mavs beat them with the same defense that the Lakers used to use on them 5 years ago. But that's for another discussion.

    We could have had Przybilla if we had offered the fifth year, but our management was too cheap to come up with 6 million dollars over the span of five years.

    Sorry that's too complex for you, too bad this whole free agency thing is a little more complex than your legos.

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    Why do you call him Rasho clone, because he's white?

    He doesn't play anything like Rasho.

    I see people say Rashoclone over and over. I guess they have never seen Przybilla. Rasho takes about 1/2 his shots from outside and only 6% of his shots are dunks. Przy takes about 80% of his shots from inside (27% of his overall shots are dunks). They are nothing the same on offense.



    No I don't call him a Rasho clone because he's white, and was referring more to the situation than playing style. You are right, their playing styles are so different that it is a misleading term.

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    Maybe one day when you have a job you will understand why what you suggest about Pop confronting Holt is so re ed. Maybe.
    He did pretty well when Parker was up for a new contract.



    It's obvious the Spurs haven't learned a ing thing, considering that the Mavs beat them with the same defense that the Lakers used to use on them 5 years ago. But that's for another discussion.

    They beat us because Pop ing choked at his job and because Manu made a ty play.

    If he doesn't foul we're in round 3.

    We could have had Przybilla if we had offered the fifth year, but our management was too cheap to come up with 6 million dollars over the span of five years.
    Five years for a kid who for the first 3 or 4 years of his career had more fouls than points???

    That's what you Mandy, want for five seasons?

    you are re ed.

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    Five years for a kid who for the first 3 or 4 years of his career had more fouls than points???

    That's what you Mandy, want for five seasons?

    you are re ed.
    You could have said the same about Stephen Jackson (without the five years part), he turned out alright.

    Re ed? Gimme a break. I've taken dumps that had more substance than what you've contributed in this discussion.

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    No I don't call him a Rasho clone because he's white, and was referring more to the situation than playing style. You are right, their playing styles are so different that it is a misleading term.
    Way to back your way out of that one

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    After the 4th year, that's when Duncan and Ginobili's contracts are up. Tony's the only one under contract in that 5th year.
    Thats exactly what I thought. I think it was pretty damn smart of them not to offer Joel that extra year then. Especially if they have high hopes for Mahimi and that will be about the time they'll be looking to lock him up after his rookie deal.

    I'm not upset in the least about anything thats happened so far.

    I however will be annoyed if the Spurs don't use the MLE, but I'll wait for that to happen before I join the meltdown.

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    I see people say Rashoclone over and over. I guess they have never seen Przybilla. Rasho takes about 1/2 his shots from outside and only 6% of his shots are dunks. Przy takes about 80% of his shots from inside (27% of his overall shots are dunks). They are nothing the same on offense.
    Thank you.

    I have been advocating Przy for some time, precisely because he plays much bigger than Rasho. And he's better defensively now than Rasho was with the Wolves, so no reason why he can't be at least as effective as Rasho turned out to be.

    Am I the only one who thinks Nazr might turn out with decent numbers under Flip? He'll get minutes, he'll get offensive rebounds, and his 10-15 foot jumper isn't bad, so I can imagine him getting him more shots in the offense. Plus, I doubt that Flip will care as much about defense.

    But the Pistons did have the biggest blocked-shots-differential in the league last year. That will change considerably now.

    I sincerely hope the Spurs are blowing smoke about starting the season with Duncan, Oberto, and Javtokas. You can kiss any hope even making it to the WCF goodbye with that.

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    these Spurs for thinking long term!

    them, them hard!

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    Am I the only one who thinks Nazr might turn out with decent numbers under Flip? He'll get minutes, he'll get offensive rebounds, and his 10-15 foot jumper isn't bad, so I can imagine him getting him more shots in the offense.

    I actually agree that he probably will be OK from an offensive standpoint. I do think you'll see an improvement in his numbers. It's just that we've relied so much upon our starting 5 for our defense.

    His stats may look respectable, but he won't be able to offer what we had, so people will be down on him all year.

    It will be an interesting year!

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    I sincerely hope the Spurs are blowing smoke about starting the season with Duncan, Oberto, and Javtokas.
    What interview or press conference did I miss?! I haven't seen or heard the Spurs say about anything that's gone on in the past few days. R.C. and Sam Presti were hanging out at the FIBA tournament and R.C. spent a good amount of time on the phone. So many are assuming that the Spurs FO are sitting around with their thumbs up their asses or moping and crying because the guys that we knew about have committed elsewhere. Opening night is still 4 months away.

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    Nazr sucks so bad I didn't want him back regardless of who we get. I'd rather start Javaktovas and take my mother ing chances.

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    The vets on that team will eat up Nazr if he's slow on rotation and starts fumbling potential dunks.

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    Seriously, what the is the difference if the Spurs do start the year with a center rotation of Javaktovas/Oberto/Duncan? It isn't like we got from our centers before, why would we nessecarily expect from them now? Bonner is a good bench big man from what I've heard said, and we still have Horry off the bench as well. So we basically need Oberto and Javaktovas to fill the role that Nazr and Rasho did last year which I don't see as a very difficult role to fill.

    If we have to start Bonner at the 4 or Javaktovas at the 4/5 it isn't ideal but don't sit there and try to tell me that the Spurs have ed up by going this route. If they go out and get a 3, then I definetly do not mind having that as our big man rotation.

    David Robinson was not a free agent in this year's pool that could be had for the MLE.

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    I would rather start Bonner.

    Don't confuse not getting anything in the Mavs series with not getting anything in general from our centers. At times Nazr/Rasho were referred to as a two headed monster. They really gave us flexibility against other teams bigs.

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    What interview or press conference did I miss?! I haven't seen or heard the Spurs say about anything that's gone on in the past few days. R.C. and Sam Presti were hanging out at the FIBA tournament and R.C. spent a good amount of time on the phone. So many are assuming that the Spurs FO are sitting around with their thumbs up their asses or moping and crying because the guys that we knew about have committed elsewhere. Opening night is still 4 months away.
    Why don't you take it up with Johnny Ludden, then. It's a direct quote from his article: http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b...r.1bd118e.html


    Like I said, I hope it's not what they really mean.

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    Well, welcome to Detroit Nazr. Hopefully you can bring 12 and 9 like you did in Atlanta in 2000.
    We left home today thinking we may sign Pryz and come home to Nazr. My sons were upset but I'm trying to look at the signing in the best possible light.

    He had a couple of monster games this year;
    18/20 @ Phi in 36 minutes
    30/16 against Pho in 35 minutes


    And a couple of very good games
    15/14 against GS in 32 minutes
    17/12 against Denver in 30 minutes

    He has the potential for big games so why are they so infrequent?
    He doesn't get the minutes, only 17 a game and his turnovers aren't bad at just a little over 1 a game which doesn't seem to bad but I rarely get to see him play so stats don't always tell the story. He does seem to be foul prone with 2.8 in limited playing time so that's not good.
    Is he lazy? Does he have motivation problems? Did it bother him to come off the bench behind Rasho?

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    His stats may look respectable, but he won't be able to offer what we had, so people will be down on him all year.
    But his free-throw shooting will look mahvelous.

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    Why don't you take it up with Johnny Ludden, then. It's a direct quote from his article: http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b...r.1bd118e.html
    Like I said, I hope it's not what they really mean.
    I put more stock in a direct quote from R.C. than I would from Ludden.

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