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No, if the Knicks match then he automatically has to stay with the Knicks.If the Knicks match, could the spurs re-offer Butler something higher? How does restricted free agency work again?
Well, at least since the 4 seed is going to be like a 44-38 Jazz or Nuggets team, the Spurs get to win one series before being summarily dispatched by Dallas or Phoenix.
The world is getting very Boston-Celtics-in-1989-feeling.
No, if the Knicks match then he automatically has to stay with the Knicks.If the Knicks match, could the spurs re-offer Butler something higher? How does restricted free agency work again?
Matching the offer would be the SMART thing to do, so you have to figure that Isiah will screw it up some how
Now the question is : What offers sheet Spurs have made to Butler and Elson ?
To me :
- Elson $4M/2 years
- Butler $8M/3 years
That would be good. I don't mind them offering Butler up to their standard 3year/10M offer that they have liked in the past. However, they might offer him a Fabricio style 3year/7.5M offer.
Perhaps something like that. Maybe Butler got a little more because there were a number of teams who liked him.
To steal Butler I'd think you'd have to give him at least $12-14M.
Hopefully we hear numbers sometime soon.
Do you all think Butler is good enough to start next year?
Elson will probably get the nod early on but Butler will beat him out by the All-Star break. Even though he's only 21, he has worlds of potential.
spurs could have offered
elson 2 years starting at $2 mil for $4.16 mil total
butler 3 years starting at $3.3 mil for $10.69 mil total
for butler that's basically the 1st 3 years of what the 2nd overall pick in last month's draft will get
Last edited by violentkitten; 07-12-2006 at 06:15 PM.
This is the second time Javtokas has acted like a .
Remember late may early june when he made waves about signing and "his terms"
ing gra ude for paying for his ing ability to walk again.
I'm fine with Butler getting more but I will be pissed if Spurs offers more than $6M to Elson.
At $4M, Elson isn't a bad signing.
I hope that Elson only get LLE offers ($3.6M/2 years) from others team and that Spurs have given him slighty more.
I don't think he acted like a today. The Spurs told him they were going in another direction and he was surprised but then he went to sign with Greece.
What's y about that?
I've seen that it is more expensive for the Knicks because of the luxury tax but, other than they're the Knicks, why would they not sign the guy if he has the potential and upside touted on this board?
They already have 15 players under contract.
WOE - Worst Off-season Ever
I believe it's 14.
Jerome James is the key. I think that Knicks will only match if he is badly out of shape.
I just counted 15. But maybe I'm wrong.
According to hoopshype Knicks have 15 players under contract.
http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries/new_york.htm
forget the 93-94 offseason?WOE - Worst Off-season Ever
We both right.
In fact it's 15 with Ime Udoka but his contract has no protection for next year.
Some of you may laugh at my analogy, but here it goes. I am a huge st. louis cardinals fan and spur fan of course. The cardinals are perrenial powers, have a rabid fan base, a smaller market and take a very frugal approach. They also have star in Albert Pujols, and some good pieces in Scott Rolen and Chris Carpenter, aka Timmy is Pujols, Manu is Rolen, and Carpenter is Parker.
The cardinals this past offseason decided to take a frugal approach to their payroll, they refused to pay reggie sanders and mark grudzeilanek, two proven major leaguers, and went the cheap route. And let me tell you, anytime you go cheap, you pay for it, the bottom line is the spurs have gotten worse today, not better!
This is even more compounded by the fact that Tim is 30, Manu 29. THE WINDOW IS CLOSING PEOPLE! AND TODAY IT TOOK A MAJOR SWING INWARD!
After 2008 San Antonio better get ready for the aftermath, Tim hobbled and used up, twilight of his career, Manu has so many miles its not funny, international ball, olympics etc...Tony will be the only bright spot. Elson will be a bum, bowen will be 38! This is terrible news!
How is it saving money if the Spurs used all the money they could?the wrong, stupid, and money saving direction.
Why is Javtokas a ? For acting in his best interests? As far as we know, the Spurs did not ask him to sit and wait and he just got word they spent the full MLE on other players.
I don't understand why prominent people on this board start calling foreign players es when the Spurs decline their favors. I don't get that hatred. Maybe they weren't right for the team. Fine. But they're es because they signed with other teams?
don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Time to start photoshopping Timmy's MRI.
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