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Well he'll be available well into August if we don't sign anyone in the meantime.
Yeah that's what I thought too. Pricey for a guy who's never been more than around 20 mpg in any season.Evans thinks hes worth the MLE?
Well he'll be available well into August if we don't sign anyone in the meantime.
Nuggets are trading for JR Smith. This blurb in the Rocky Mountain news has something interesting in it. Maybe the first part of everyone's prayers have been answered. The Knicks will have to help with the second part.
Crap. At this point, Elson getting matched would be disastrous. Hope that doesn't happen.
rember evans still wants the full mle
I think Elson will work out good......he can run the court and that was something the Spurs needed bad! Rasho and Nazr were unable to help the team in the playoffs. At least this big man will be able to get some mins imho. He will average the same stats as Rasho and Nazr too! They may not be huge numbers, but still......I am really only concerned with rebounding. Hope the Spurs do something about this.
I'm still trying to figure out how people think that Elson would get minutes- he still can't cover Dirk? As long as Tim doesn't cover Dirk, no center will play against Dallas. Simple. And when Horry is only getting 15 minutes per game himself, just how much do you expect any 3rd big man to get during the playoffs.
And he won't be able to cover anyone on the Suns. At the same time, the Spurs need a center to play against most of the rest of the league. I'm confident that the Spurs know that Elson can't cover Dirk.
The Nuggets long have been searching for more than just a stopgap starter at shooting guard. While Smith is young, he is known as a solid shooter and could develop into the long-term piece the team is seeking.
Smith has a career field-goal percentage of 39.4. But he has shot 31.6 from three-point range, including 37.1 last season.
The only shooting guards currently on the Nuggets roster are Ruben Patterson, who some say is better suited for small forward, and Julius Hodge, who played sparingly last season as a rookie.
The Nuggets last week lost free agent Greg Buckner to Dallas, but there is a solid chance they will re-sign free agent DerMarr Johnson.
With the Nuggets approaching the luxury tax of $65.4 million, getting an economical contract such as Smith's could help. With a Smith acquisition and with Nene signing a six-year, $60 million contract this week, the Nuggets would be in line to have 11 players with guaranteed deals totaling just more than $60 million.
Acquiring Smith also might give the Nuggets more of a desire to match the two-year, $6 million offer sheet given last week by San Antonio to restricted free-agent center Francisco Elson. The Nuggets have until Thursday to decide.
I'm praying that Elson gets matched. The guy sucks during the regular season and is perhaps the worst playoff performer in any sport ever. I'd rather have nobody than Elson.
$3M/year for Elson is a worse bang for your buck then Rasho, Nazr and Malik's contracts combined.
The guy is a scrub of the highest order.
I haven't read the latest in this thread, but if it means anything (and it doesn't), Greg Simmons just said Denver's had their change of heart (which is what was probably posted above).
So unfortunately, when he says that, we know Elson's going to be in silver and black.
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I really want Elson (Am i the only one ?).
I think he will be a good role player and $6M/2 years is a quite good contract.
I think Elson would be good for small ball. We don't have any big guy that can run the floor like him.
Having him as starting C is a problem though, and if he's the only pickup it will suck.
Hopefully you are the only one
Check what he did in the playoffs. The Spurs don't need someone who can't play when the lights come on. Especially since he's poor at best during the regular season.
My opinion is the Spurs can survive the Elson signing if they also get Butler. If you told me they could split the MLE between Elson and Butler I'd take it because Butler has good potential.
Elson just sucks though. At his greatest he'd be a par player. At his worst, he'd make Spurs fans wish a 50-year-old Will Perdue was an option. Elson is just a dumb player with no skills and no upside.
If he's all the Spurs have at center next year, they might as well tank.
Seriously.
I never said anything about him covering Dirk. Duncan cannot cover Dirk either. He is awesome, but slow. However, he can cover Dirk much better then Rasho or Nazr.
Elson being fast is a myth. He beat Nazr down the court one time and all of a sudden Spurs fans act like he's Carl Lewis or something.
I see Elson as a serviceable big man and I think that he will be a good fit with Duncan.
On the offensive end : His midrange jumpshoot will be money with Duncan in the post.
On the defensive end : His speed will help him to play decent man 2 man defense. 90% of the time our center defend the opposite PF and not the opposite C.
If he can be a decent rebounder (at least better than Rasho), he will be a valuable role player.
Add to that, that he is not old, injury prone and has no at ude troubles and for $6M/2 years (Potapenko received that contract last summer and I take Elson over Potapenko), I'm sold on him.
Same thing we heard about Rasho. Truth is at most he'll attempt one or two jumpers a game and will hit about 40% of them. That doesn't do much.
He may be faster than your average bigman but that is negated by being uncoordinated and having a low basketball IQ.On the defensive end : His speed will help him to play decent man 2 man defense. 90% of the time our center defend the opposite PF and not the opposite C.
Rasho is a better rebounder.If he can be a decent rebounder (at least better than Rasho), he will be a valuable role player.
Scary, I know.
I'd take an NBDL player for the minimum over Elson. Elson is a has been who never was anything. Throwing away more than half of the MLE on him is insane.Add to that, that he is not old, injury prone and has no at ude troubles and for $6M/2 years (Potapenko received that contract last summer and I take Elson over Potapenko), I'm sold on him.
Elson is a way better jumpshooter tahn Rasho. Let him open at 16-18ft and he will hit more than 50% of his jumpshoot and score 10-12pts.
You don't need to be Einstein to play good man 2 man defense. His low BBIQ will hurt him more for team defense and Duncan is here to help him.
I think that Elson will be a rebounder in SA than in Denver (like Rasho when he comes in SA from Minny).
That's your opinion, mine is that it's a good signing.
Only future will tel who is right and who is wrong (if Denver doesn't match).
Not really. They both shot between 34-38% on jumpers their whole career. Last season, Elson bumped that up to 42%. Career-wise, they are about the same.
10-12 points a game? A season?Let him open at 16-18ft and he will hit more than 50% of his jumpshoot and score 10-12pts.
First of all he won't hit 50%. Second of all, it's proven in the Spurs' system that a center with a midrange jumper doesn't get more than 1 or 2 of those shots a game. At most, the threat of being able to hit a wide open 15 footer is what counts.
Duncan will also be there to pick up fouls. Nazr was a good man-to-man defender but a poor team defender. In the end, his poor team defense made Spurs fans and Pop want to kill him.You don't need to be Einstein to play good man 2 man defense. His low BBIQ will hurt him more for team defense and Duncan is here to help him.
The Spurs' defense is built on team defense. If you can't rotate well, you won't play.
Nazr and Raso's rebounding rates stayed pretty much the same. Perhaps Elson all of a sudden becomes a better rebounder than Rasho, but that is just hope.I think that Elson will be a rebounder in SA than in Denver (like Rasho when he comes in SA from Minny).
Yeah, we'll see I guess. I must warn you that timvp is rarely wrong when it comes to pointing out bad free agent signingsThat's your opinion, mine is that it's a good signing.
Only future will tel who is right and who is wrong (if Denver doesn't match).
You specifically said he would get to play in the play-offs when Rasho and Nazr did not-- that means he could play against Dallas- How?
It doesn't matter, because apparently Dirk can score fifty a game on anyone not named Bowen, and everybody else on the Mavericks can drop forty a game on Duncan or insert center here. The Spurs are therefore doomed.
that would be pretty cool if we tanked and got oden, came back and won 3 more trophies
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