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Any links to these?I was saying that some of the more bizzare looking hominid fossils could in fact be those of angel hybrids.
So basically, for "angel hybrids" you have to fall back on "God did it."
Can't argue much with that. Assume magic and you can trump any argument, I guess.
I read through it but don't remember all the details. I will go back and do it, but will simply say that Hominids developed with the same pattern as any other species.
You got a successful adaptation, i.e. walking upright, that spawned a host of variants, none of which had any traces of wings, and then our ancestors went from there. Walking upright seemed to allow for more tool usage, and the tool usage adaptation was an extremely good one, selecting for the populations/individuals that were better and better tool users, or tool users that added a new adaptation like language, until you get sapiens.
Every other good adaptation follows the same pattern. Get a good adaptation, and you get a sucessful population that grows and over time differentiates, leading to a "branching" effect.
This whole process can be explained without angels.
Any links to these?I was saying that some of the more bizzare looking hominid fossils could in fact be those of angel hybrids.
A new and different version of the "tornado-airplane" thing, in which the posit that "the odds are the same as if a tornado blew through a scrap yard and left a fully formed 747 in its wake".
Chemistry deals with very large numbers.
A mole is a number of atoms/molecules with a 6 followed by 23 zeros. For water, this amount is something like 10 grams of water. Extend this out a bit.
1 liter/10grams per mole of water=100
100 moles of water in one liter. 6 with 25 zeros.
How many liters in all the worlds oceans?
Easy to double the number of zeros there, say 6 followed by 50 zeros of molucules of water on the earth.
If a tiny fraction of that volume contains extra dissolved organic chemicals, you still have a HUGE number of organic molecules bumping around.
If you throw 200 coins long enough, you WILL get 200 heads or 200 tails.
The big numbers of molecules involved and the billions of years involved only have to succeed ONCE in creating a self replicating simple protien.
The metaphor is more like trillions of trillions of trillions of trillions of trillions of trillions of tornados blow through a scrap yard over billions of years and just ONCE arrange parts that spell out the words "to be or not to be".
God doesn't have to guide evolution at all for it to happen. Just create a large enough universe, and evolution will take care of itself.
Somehow, somewhere, life WILL emerge.
For that matter, extend out the number of molecules in all the oceans on all the planets in the universe since the beginning of time.
That would add a *few* more zeros to the number of molecules bumping around. Like I said, a statistical certainty that you will have to provide a bit more countervailing proof to poo-poo out of existence than you have so far.
As much as you want to pass this a definite truth, it is not. And neither you nor anybody else can prove it.
Um, I'm pretty sure life exists...
If you want proof, maybe I can dump a cup of water on yer head. Or maybe have an angel-hybrid do it... j/k
NOT true at all. No such purification process exists that doesn't rely on extra work done by enzymes or catalysts. That's like hoping for a mixed puddle of 1000 black marbles and 1000 white marbles to split up accordingly without any help. I'm taking you misread that article.
Last edited by hegamboa; 08-25-2006 at 05:28 PM.
Are you expecting to find wings? Not all angels have wings you know.
Some of the fossils already found and identified as sapien precursors do not necesarily have to be that --- precursors. That's why I mentioned the 'hybrids' in the first place...
Of course you all choose to harp on this simply because Angelic references invariably point to GOD.... oh no... not that.
In doing so, you all were missing the point of the comment.
Again without the aid of written history, am I supposed to assume that Mayas were a different species.
Chinese women and their little feet also cons uted a different species.
That Polynesian 'shrunken heads' or
African 'long necks'
or people that suffered from Gigantism... like the guy who's picture you always find in Guiness World Book of Records --- were all different species???
No. And that's exactly what anthropologists are doing. The worse part is that they are drawing these conclusions from hundreds of incomplete fossil sets.
Why do I feel like I have to re-type my posts everytime someone hasn't read a previous incarnation of the same post.
Because you can't give me a link, apparently.Why do I feel like I have to re-type my posts everytime someone hasn't read a previous incarnation of the same post.
Try a number as large as 3.87x10^-121. or 1/(4^200) for building a codified segment of DNA 200 bases long (using one of 4 possible bases).
In the case of a protein unaided by the transcription process, that would be worse; since there are 20 possible amino acids intead of only 4 bases.
Now one of the models out there for the age of the universe is at around 30 billion years old. This roughly 1.6x10^16 seconds.
Do you see the problem.
BTW entropic problems with molecules this size are an issue due to flux limitations that limit the amount of order (dS/A) that can be relayed or extracted to/from such a small source.
Two can play stubborn.
Where's the dark matter I asked you to get me?
Besides that comment wasn't even directed at you even though I quoted you for a reference earlier.
Again, you're the one who cares about angel-human hybrids.
I couldn't care less about dark matter, though I'm sure I could at least google you an article.
If angel-human hybrids are a such a big deal, someone has surely written about them.
That's my point... that they're not. SO instead of considering other explanations anthropologists go with the hum-ho, evolutionary choice. "This must be another sapien precursor." And really aren't open to the possibility that other explanations exist.
I couldn't care any more about them than you.
Last edited by hegamboa; 08-25-2006 at 10:04 PM.
Why not?That's my point... that they're not.
I cared enough to ask for a link. I'm curious. This isn't disingenous as your asking me about something you already know about and believe in.
I made the reference trying to make the point about the possibility of other explanations....
How would one go about proving that one of the various hominid fossils we already have is really an angel/human hybrid anyway... Would you know what to look for?
Random Guy was the one that resurrected the topic after I had already addressed it. And then you came in thinking I'd never let go of the subject to begin with. That comment earlier was addressed to him.
With reference to the dark matter... I believe you asked me to get you an angel fossil first. Which is why I made the unrealistic request to begin with. Besides the 'proof' we have for dark matter is all theoretical, based on observation only, and not finite... The Pauli exclusion princinple actually would negate the ability to claim with absolute certainty that dark matter was in fact dark matter. So how can we make that assessment from so far away.... Based on Gravity and other secondary data -- but not first hand data. Anyway...
The question is how did human life came to exist. I don't think your conclusion is whithout huge wholes.Um, I'm pretty sure life exists...
If you want proof, maybe I can dump a cup of water on yer head. Or maybe have an angel-hybrid do it... j/k
No I didn't misread the article. It was something I heard on the news.
The researchers said very specifically that eventually the little buggers all sorted it out themselves leaving the mixtures either entirely righty or entirely lefty.
http://nai.arc.nasa.gov/news_stories...d/key_step.htm
here is an older article from 2001.
The study I heard about, and the researcher I heard interviewed (a female if memory serves) were within the last 6 months.
NOT POSSIBLE.... You wanted magic??? They bluffed you big time.
The researcher after going through all the trouble of explaining his theory forgot chemistry 101. Calcite is a basic mineral.... most amino acids are acidic. Pair the two and you have an organic salt. If dissolved in water one would never have obtained a protein chain to begin with.
Geesh... this guy is basically trying to add up at least 3 different mechanisms that don't work well together. The primordial soup conditions were either acidic, basic (both being electrolytic solutions) or inorganic... but not all three at the same time....
I guess its a step in the right direction though.... I still want to know how he managed to proclaim that a unichiral chain of amino acids was 'self-replicating'. That would have been one of the biggest molecular biology finds of the century.
http://nai.arc.nasa.gov/news_stories... chiral.htm
had another bit.
He wasn't explaining a hypothetical.
He was describing something he had done, and the further studies that he was going to do.
Sheesh. Talk about a hurry to dismiss something...
"I can imagine cycles of wetting and drying in a tidal pool," says Hazen. "Each time the calcite crystals are exposed to the amino-acid-rich ocean, they adsorb D and L amino acids selectively. Each time the crystal dries out, the amino acids link up to form chiral polymers. Eventually, one of these polymers is autocatalytic - it makes copies of itself. This idea closely parallels similar scenarios that have employed clay minerals, which don't perform the chiral selection trick."
I just pointed out the obvious.
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