Ludden: Pop asks Parker to shoot less

[timvp]

The joke is Parker missing easy jumpers. Why do you think TP passed up wide open 3's? He can't hit them, and he KNOWS that!!

5-13 was Parker's line today. You want him to shoot more? There was one classic situation where as usual TP dribbles headling into about 4 Rocket defenders including Mutombo.....he lost the ball trying to force his way in. TP's basketball IQ is really too low for him to be a good PG. I am inclined to think that unless TP can hit jumpers or create open shots for his teammates, perhaps we should have traded TP for Iverson. At least Iverson doesn't choke and wants the damn ball when the game is on the line.

Do you have anything else in your game other than Parker bashing?

Parker is asked not to be as aggressive offensively and the Spurs struggle to score. The only time he shoots is when the Rockets don't guard him on his jumpers. When he drove in, he passed the ball.

Yet, Parker haters still hate.

Amazing.

[Kori Ellis]

When Tony went out of the game near the end of the 3rd, the Spurs were about tied I believe.

When he came back in, they were down by 9 or 10.

But keep blaming Parker

[ShoogarBear]

Smart thinkin' there, blaming this on Parker. Really boosts up your basketball credentials there.

[johnpaulwall21]

Parkers been doing good but teams are strategizing how to go at him and take away his game, and hes still bout 19 pts a game that aint bad. the other players dont have to worry about that but they still cant score. it shouldnt be tony to blame.

[telecomguy]

Do you have anything else in your game other than Parker bashing?

Parker is asked not to be as aggressive offensively and the Spurs struggle to score. The only time he shoots is when the Rockets don't guard him on his jumpers. When he drove in, he passed the ball.

Yet, Parker haters still hate.

Amazing.

ok, let me see if I understand your logic. You claim that the ONLY time Parker shot today is when the Rockets didn't guard him, giving him wide-open mid range jumpers. And he ended up with 5 for 13 shot attempts???? , Nash or Billups would have hit 10 or 11 out of 13 of those shot attempst. They were EASY, uncontested shots that a good guard should be able to hit with high degree of success from 17 feet out.

[timvp]

ok, let me see if I understand your logic. You claim that the ONLY time Parker shot today is when the Rockets didn't guard him, giving him wide-open mid range jumpers. And he ended up with 5 for 13 shot attempts???? , Nash or Billups would have hit 10 or 11 out of 13 of those shot attempst. They were EASY, uncontested shots that a good guard should be able to hit with high degree of success from 17 feet out.

Billups shoots 40% on his mid-range jumpers. So if he shot 13, he'd hit *gasp* 5 of them.

If you watched this game and you think Parker is the main problem, you need to turn off your tv and pick up a new hobby. Especially a Parker who was told to pass more and shoot less.

Again, do you have anything else to add or is your only purpose of being to bash Parker after every game?

[Kori Ellis]

Seriously, maybe you should stop posting here.

You don't bring anything to the table but Parker bashing.

You say he can't hit jumpers, but he does.

You say that you don't want him to be the first or second scoring option, the past few games he hasn't been, and the Spurs offense has sucked.

You are complaining about his turnovers tonight, but he had six assists and one turnover.

You should consider forum retirement because you are embarrassing.

[ShoogarBear]

Since when has idiotic Parker bashing been cause for a request to retire? I thought those guys had their own club with treehouse meetings and decoder rings and .

[telecomguy]

Billups shoots 40% on his mid-range jumpers. So if he shot 13, he'd hit *gasp* 5 of them.

If you watched this game and you think Parker is the main problem, you need to turn off your tv and pick up a new hobby. Especially a Parker who was told to pass more and shoot less.

Again, do you have anything else to add or is your only purpose of being to bash Parker after every game?

Excuse me but guys like Billups, Nash, and T-Mac would NEVER EVER get uncontested mid-range jump shot opportunities. They would murder them. Even Sam Cassells would kill any team that would give him open look, uncontested jumpers. This is what you don't seem to understand......ROckets ALLOWED Parker to get his jumpers uncontested because they would rather let him go for his ty jumpers than leave TD undermanned or allow Parker to penetrate. If Parker can't punish them when they do that, then essentially we are playing 2 against 5 (2 being TD and Manu). It was amazing TD even got that many points and rebounds considering all the bigs from ROckets that were staying in the paint.

our top PG cannot pass and he can't hit easy uncontested jumpers, and he dissappears in the clutch situation (4th qtr) on a regular basis.

and you do not think this is a problem?

[Kori Ellis]

our top PG cannot pass and he can't hit easy uncontested jumpers, and he dissappears in the clutch situation (4th qtr) on a regular basis.

Just type this over and over. That's your take in every post. No reason to waste anymore keystrokes.

[telecomguy]

Seriously, maybe you should stop posting here.

You don't bring anything to the table but Parker bashing.

You say he can't hit jumpers, but he does.

You say that you don't want him to be the first or second scoring option, the past few games he hasn't been, and the Spurs offense has sucked.

You are complaining about his turnovers tonight, but he had six assists and one turnover.

You should consider forum retirement because you are embarrassing.

I never complained TONIGHT about TP's turnover. He wasn't the worst player on the court today but he didn't do much either. and he STILL took 13 shots.
I don't understand why you guys defend him so much. He is not doing his job in my opinion and if he can't be a good PG, then we have to find someone else.

Picture IVERSON as a Spur tonight instead of TP. I think the outcome might have been different, although as I said TP was not the only reason we lost.

BOwen has really slipped. Tmac elevated over Bowen over and over again........and it seems Bowen isn't fast enough to get there quickly and elevate high enough to cause problems for pure shooters like Kobe or TMac.

[timvp]

Excuse me but guys like Billups, Nash, and T-Mac would NEVER EVER get uncontested mid-range jump shot opportunities. They would murder them. Even Sam Cassells would kill any team that would give him open look, uncontested jumpers. This is what you don't seem to understand......ROckets ALLOWED Parker to get his jumpers uncontested because they would rather let him go for his ty jumpers than leave TD undermanned or allow Parker to penetrate. If Parker can't punish them when they do that, then essentially we are playing 2 against 5 (2 being TD and Manu). It was amazing TD even got that many points and rebounds considering all the bigs from ROckets that were staying in the paint.

our top PG cannot pass and he can't hit easy uncontested jumpers, and he dissappears in the clutch situation (4th qtr) on a regular basis.

and you do not think this is a problem?

The Spurs won two championships when Parker was a worse shooter. The Spurs won a championship with a point guard who makes Parker look like Larry Bird.

Parker is far from being the problem this year. If you can't figure that out, take up basket weaving.

The only question is why do I bother replying.

[Marcus Bryant]

man if TP doesn't shoot & Manu doesn't shoot, who the is going to put up points? This team is weak as it is from 4-12. Sonofa TP has replaced Malik as Pop's favorite whipping boy. And the peasants march in lock step.

[Kori Ellis]

I never complained TONIGHT about TP's turnover.

So you don't even read your own ing posts? I guess I should stop reading them too.

There was one classic situation where as usual TP dribbles headling into about 4 Rocket defenders including Mutombo.....he lost the ball trying to force his way in. TP's basketball IQ is really too low for him to be a good PG.

[ChumpDumper]

and he STILL took 13 shots.

Picture IVERSON as a Spur tonight instead of TP.

[Kori Ellis]

Seriously, in your 40 something posts here, only one of them is not bashing Parker.

Get a new schtick.

I understand why they hated you at SpursReport.

[phxspurfan]

this is a really bad idea. parker is not chauncey billups. take away his license to shoot and he is suddenly craptacular. and thats a conservative judgment. i mean he will be h-o-rrible.

[gilmor]

I didn't know some one working in telco will suck so bad.. man that is depressing..

[ginobili fan]

Are you saying that he gives green light for Manu to steal (because Manu steals a lot) but won't give Tony the option of going for steal? What kind of coach would try to micromanage a player to that extent? Pop would be insane to stop TP from stealing the ball if the opposing ball handler is loose with the ball and is ripe for aggressive move on TP's part to go for steal.

You guys all say Pop controls TP to the nth degree....I just don't buy that. He might give TP some general guidance but it's up to TP to perform and take what the other team gives, whether it be on offence or defence.

Please let's not excuse everything that TP does not do by saying Pop doesn't allow him to.......and obviously the corollary to that logic is that if in fact Pop won't let TP score in the crunch time or go for steals or pass too much (which I highly doubt), there is probably a reason for Pop to be so restrictive on TP -- and that reason cannot be a positive one if you get my drift.

Players have lot more leeway and control of what they do on the court. Remember when Manu was a rookie and he drove Pop nuts with all his gambling and crazy plays he used to risk? Well Pop i am sure told him way more than TP to tone it down and play under more control...Manu didn't listen and he didn't get kicked out of the team. If TP can actually pass well, score in the 4th, and put up lock-down defence and steal lot of balls, are you actually going to tell me that Pop wouldn't let him or that in fact TP would not be doing those things?

Too funny.'

I said TP said that in a radio show.Then I think it is true.
More, you're talking like you know pop but you don't know him.
And I though that you weren't a hater but a constructive and reasonnable guy but I was wrong.
Plus, Manu is Manu,then he has the green light.
Plus, yeah,"Pop wouldn't let him or that in fact TP not be doing those things".
Tp himself said that.And everyone in this forum know that except you, I mean do you really understand the spurs game?
Just 2 words:stop basketball

[telecomguy]

So you don't even read your own ing posts? I guess I should stop reading them too.

excuse me but if you read the post intelligently, you would have seen that I brought up that example of what Tony does on a regular basis......lack of court vision. I wasn't talking about turnovers on that post but his general inability to understand that he cannot barrell headlong into a trap and should have bailed out instead of jumping up with the ball with 3 bigs around him and then having no option but to throw a wild pass or get his shot blocked.

[telecomguy]

The Spurs won two championships when Parker was a worse shooter. The Spurs won a championship with a point guard who makes Parker look like Larry Bird.

Parker is far from being the problem this year. If you can't figure that out, take up basket weaving.

The only question is why do I bother replying.

Excuse me but Speedy Claxton is not exactly a chopped liver. In fact as I recall that he hit many huge clutch jumpers, and defended far better than TP, and moved the ball around well in that playoffs when TP started playing very poorly.

[2centsworth]

Excuse me but Speedy Claxton is not exactly a chopped liver. In fact as I recall that he hit many huge clutch jumpers, and defended far better than TP, and moved the ball around well in that playoffs when TP started playing very poorly.

Spurs don't get past Dallas in '03 without Parker. He was unconscious in games 3 and 4. Prompted Pop to say "I shouldn't try to make him John Stockton, he's Tony FREAKIN Parker" an unstoppable scoring force when Pop lets him loose.

Tony is not close to being the problem this year.

[telecomguy]

Spurs don't get past Dallas in '03 without Parker. He was unconscious in games 3 and 4. Prompted Pop to say "I shouldn't try to make him John Stockton, he's Tony FREAKIN Parker" an unstoppable scoring force when Pop lets him loose.

Tony is not close to being the problem this year.

look, I am not saying that Tony is a screw up. But we really do need a good PG who can distribute and make things happen due to the way the game is officiated and the type of players we have. TP has to live up to the hype and play more of an all-around game and get the team's offense moving, make it less predictable, etc. This is exactly why Pop was trying to convey to TP to try to pass more and create more openings for the other Spurs rather than keep going to the hoop because such a one-dimensional offense simply doesn't work well against good teams with good defenders. Most importantly, he has to learn to punish the defence when they sag. Against Dallas, how is TP going to get his points in the paint against Diop, Dampier, Notwitzki, Howard, etc...??? they are going to clog up the middle and dare him to shoot and cover TD/Manu tightly. If Parker can't dipsy doodle his way, probe and create movement in the Spurs offence, our offence will once again be totally dependent on 4 down (dumping into Duncan & watch)