The longer he serves in the Senate, the less likely he is to be elected president. Senators with long voting records don't fare well in presidential elections.
The more he talks, the less likely he is to be elected president. Here's hoping he doesn't go down in flames before pushing Hillary out in the primary.
And, by the way, he already has one of the most liberal voting records in the Senate...just in his limited time there.
So, in his case, liberal means "got it right".
For you, I'm sure it does.
Uh, I'll take Obama over THIS p.o.s. ANYDAY!!!
Obama in 08!
Uh, I'll take Obama over THIS p.o.s. ANYDAY!!!
Obama in 08!
Oh, oh, bring out the one where he's reading "My Pet Goat" to little kids.
nah, that's about as boring as pointing out race card usage like it should never be used because we live in such a melting pot...i'm not defending mckinney, maybe she was crazy, they come in all colorsOh, oh, bring out the one where he's reading "My Pet Goat" to little kids.
Barak Obama Friday:
Twenty years ago... Jesse Jackson won the South Carolina democratic primary ... along with 10 other states.Presidential hopeful Barack Obama (news, bio, voting record) told thousands of cheering supporters Friday night that seeing such a racially diverse crowd in the shadow of the South Carolina statehouse would have surprised people a generation ago.
"Twenty years ago, nobody would have believed this crowd in South Carolina," he said of the racially mixed group.
Barak then proceeded to give a history lessen to the crowd.
You know, this is yet another illustration of how those who would perpetuate racial division for political gain haven't been paying attention -- or worse, believe their audience hasn't been paying attention -- to the gains made and therefore, can squeeze more guilt out of the "victimization" of black America.
Everything is perfect.
It's better than using the brownies in your family and fumbling around with a couple of words of Spanish to try and get the latino vote.
Anyway, 1984 was an exception because blacks in SC came out in full force to vote for their hometown boy, Jackson. That blacks in SC finally had someone to come out in numbers and vote for doesn't mean that whites voted for him in large numbers in SC. It is a misconception and a spin on the facts to argue that because JJ won the DPP in SC 20 years ago that this is evidence that blacks and whites were holding hands at that time in that state. I can get these cases for you from Lexis-Nexis later should you wish to see why your bashing just doesn't hold up...the following is taken from ACLU docs.
Racially Polarized Voting in South Carolina: 1984-2004
The three-judge court in Burton v. Sheheen, decided in 1992, relied upon the stipulation of the parties "that since 1984 there is evidence of racially polarized voting in South Carolina."(14) A subsequent three-judge court in Smith v. Beasley, decided in 1996, found that "[i]n South Carolina, voting has been, and still is, polarized by race. This voting pattern is general throughout the state."(15) In Colleton County Council v. McConnell, decided in 2002, the three-judge court made similar findings: "[v]oting in South Carolina continues to be racially polarized to a very high degree in all regions of the state and in both primary and general elections."(16) In 2004, the court of appeals affirmed the finding of a district court in South Carolina "that voting in Charleston County Council elections is severely and characteristically polarized along racial lines."(17)
Last edited by ponky; 02-18-2007 at 02:26 PM.
nah, that's about as boring as pointing out race card usage like it should never be used because we live in such a melting pot...i'm not defending mckinney, maybe she was crazy, they come in all colors
Walt whitman would say we live in a melting pot. So go back to your Public Enemy tapes.
"can squeeze more guilt out of the "victimization" of black America."
The Repugs, the party of racists, have made racism a central plank of their political platform for 30+ years, as soon as southern white trash got a few nickels in their overalls and figured they'd upgrade themselves from the "have-not Dems to the "have" Repugs.
While the story is well known recently that blacks are not unanimously for/againsts Obama just be he is black, it is also plainly obvious that the primary msg of the Repugs on Obama will be not to support Obama, to slime Obama strictly because he is half black.
The entire Repug "en lements" argument is purely a code for racism.
The secondary Repug slime on Obama will be that he has some Muslim background, the implication is that, since in simplistic, knee-jerk sheeple/rabble-think "Muslim = terrorist", he supports terrorists against the USA, and that in fact Osama bin Obama IS a terrorist.
Yoni likes to slime all blacks as fake victims (as if racism weren't still rampant) while ignoring how corps, farmers, super-rich, oilicos are self-proclaimed "victims" of the federal govt, of the weather, of the cost finding oil, of the IRS, etc in need of, and perennially getting, 100s of $Bs in tax-breaks/cuts, special treatment, subsidies, tariff protections, etc.
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it's no surprise that a guy who was born and bred in and around nyc would call it a melting pot. having lived in nyc myself, it's probably the closest thing to a "melting pot" that we have in the u.s.
also, it's no surprise that a guy with sexual proclivities would want so desperately for america to embrace and accept everyone
doesn't mean that america is a melting pot, just because one inspirational and hopeful optimist wanted it to be so and just because nyc may be one of the few melting pots here in america
public enemy tapes? uh, oh-kay, not sure what this has to do with walt whitman other than that they're both from the same area of ny...unless you're just reaching for sarcasm, in which case, weak
Cat got your tongue?
Obama. He's black and he speaks well.
Don't forget...he's clean too.
Guess old boutons is in Austin today. His favorite person is there. Mr. Clean. But of course he may not be black enough for some.
It's gonna take something big to slow down the Obama train. Hillary has the dirty tricks machinery to 'dig up the dirt'......I think we're in for quite a ride....
Slam dunk Obama!
Obama Ridicules Cheney's Iraq Comments
By KELLEY SHANNON
The Associated Press
Friday, February 23, 2007; 6:39 PM
AUSTIN, TexasWashington Post-- Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama ridiculed Vice President Cheney on Friday for saying Britain's decision to pull troops from Iraq is a good sign that fits with the strategy for stabilizing the country.
Obama, speaking at a massive outdoor rally in Austin, Texas, said British Prime Minister Tony Blair's decision this week to withdraw 1,600 troops is a recognition that Iraq's problems can't be solved militarily.
"Now if Tony Blair can understand that, then why can't George Bush and Cheney understand that?" Obama asked thousands of supporters who gathered in the rain to hear him. "In fact, Cheney said this is all part of the plan (and) it was a good thing that Tony Blair was withdrawing, even as the administration is preparing to put 20,000 more of our young men and women in.
"Now, keep in mind, this is the same guy that said we'd be greeted as liberators, the same guy that said that we're in the last throes. I'm sure he forecast sun today," Obama said to laughter from supporters holding campaign signs over their heads to keep dry. "When Cheney says it's a good thing, you know that you've probably got some big problems."
very nice turnout and speech today by obama...of course, blair is more worried about salvaging what little opp he may have to put a positive spin on his legacy than *getting it right* but whatever, bush is a rabid dog when it comes to the war in the middle east. i enjoyed the story he recounted about durbin
as a side note, i really enjoyed the band from 'nawlins who relocated to austin, if anyone went and caught their name, please let me know, i'd like to go hear them in person
I guess you're waiting for the day when we all have olive skin and brown eyes and we're all both biracial -gay universalist -ethnic- bohemians, purchasing organic oats and veggies from the local co-op, and one can't go outside without some in a rasta beanie doing tai chi in a loin cloth and some monks banging on tambourines while the streets are littered with bio friendly mopeds and esspresso shops.
Wait,...that sounds like San Franscisco you dumb prick.
Maybe if you want to go try some authentic mexican food, you should go to Sweden.
And if you want to listen to Indian classical music, go to Venezuela.
And while you're there, pick up some pho noodles in Somalia.
Or have bratwurst in Guadalajara.
What the have you been smoking.
America is the melting pot of the world.
Go to any rural town in america and you'll see along with regional americana culture, creole, spanish, and mexican culture, with a little splash of south east asia(depending how far that town is close to a sea port).
What do they have in germany as minorities? Turks! whooptee goddamn do.
We have that and every nationality you can think of.
You mean CNN.
first off, i'm the furthest thing from a hippy and have no interest in california so calm the down already and stop using such silly generalizations as conservatives are so fond of doing. not everybody is fortunate enough to live in metropolitan areas of the u.s. where all the diverse things you mentioned exist...leave these areas and travel to places like kansas, tennessee, alabama and all those food examples you mentioned fly out the window. there certainly are pockets of diversity in all of these places but they are usually stressed communities where the non-white immigrants don't interact and interweave within the white community. even in nyc, there are people and parts of little odessa, chinatown, little bombay and curry hill that live isolated from the rest of society. just go and look at the idiot trying to make an argument about obama's speech in south carolina. completely talking out of his ass without knowledge of the facts.
just because we have every nationality doesn't mean that this country is a melting pot, we don't coexist without serious problems. if this was the case we wouldn't have people trying to redistrict texas to make things more favorable for the largely white republican base to the exclusion of all the darkies and dems. last time i checked *spanish* culture was not a huge part of american society...you don't even know the right term and yet we live in a melting pot because all mexican-looking people whether they're from honduras, peru or mexico must be the same, *spanish*. mexicans may be melting in san antonio which is like the mexican capital of texas but it's ridiculous to talk about rural america where all the mexicans are busy picking fruit, cutting meat and building houses as if they interact on a social level with the rest of that community.
anyway, way to understand whitman, you should really learn more about his background if you're going to try and use his ideas as support for your argument.
one last thing. i see you have a guinness symbol as your avatar. when i was in dublin, i had italian food, indian food and thai food along with the traditional irish food...all big metropolitan cities tend to have some degree of diversity, doesn't mean they're all getting along holding hands.
Last edited by ponky; 02-24-2007 at 03:04 AM.
You mean Insight magazine.
Obama gets warm welcome in Austin
Web Posted: 02/24/2007 01:28 AM CST
R.G. Ratcliffe
Austin Bureau
AUSTIN — About 20,000 mostly young people traveled from across Texas to stand on the shores of Austin's Town Lake on Friday and hear Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama vow to end the war in Iraq.
"We are actually less safe than we were before this war started," Obama told the crowd, whose size made it probably the biggest political rally in Texas since President Reagan spoke at the same spot in his 1984 re-election campaign.
People cheered for various Texas cities as Cyril Neville with the warm-up band called out their names.
"Look at this! Unbelievable," said Obama, in a dark suit and white shirt, sans tie. "I have not seen a crowd like this. I am overwhelmed, Austin, I am overwhelmed."
Obama is in the leading pack in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination, challenging perceived front-runner U.S. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.
He never mentioned Clinton by name, but twice took digs at her.
Obama said even in 2002, before he became a U.S. senator, he opposed giving President Bush the authority to wage war in Iraq. Clinton and fellow presidential hopeful John Edwards voted for that resolution in the Senate, but Edwards has since said he was wrong and apologized.
Obama also urged crowd members to donate $5 or $10 to his campaign because "I don't want to raise money in Hollywood all the time. I'd rather raise it right here in Austin."
Clinton's campaign this week demanded Obama apologize after Hollywood mogul David Geffen threw a $1 million fund-raiser for Obama and told a New York Times columnist that former President Bill Clinton is a "reckless guy" and predicted his wife's campaign would be "very unpleasant."
The heart of Obama's 40-minute speech reflected opposition to the Iraq war, which he said is making the terrorist organization al-Qaida stronger while Afghanistan falls farther toward chaos.
He called it a shame that America spends more on health care than any country in the world and still has 46 million people without health insurance.
University of Texas political scientist Bruce Buchanan said a big crowd for Obama in a Republican state like Texas is going to "capture some attention" nationally. But it's too early to tell whether either Obama or Clinton will be the Democratic nominee, he said.
"Obama has set himself up to be kind of a new candidate practicing a new politics," Democratic consultant Kelly Fero said.
Several of the young people in the crowd said it was their first political rally, though they had voted in 2004.
Recent University of Texas at Austin graduate Jocelyn Schutte, 21, said she was there because of "the state of our nation and the fact that Barack Obama is the only one offering any hope."
"I kind of like Obama. He's got a lot of fresh ideas. He's got leadership quality," said David Garcia of Corpus Christi, attending with his wife, Nelda, because their son, Jacob, was a volunteer for the candidate.
Israel Anderson of Austin, 60, a retired Army colonel, said he met Obama four years ago and the candidate reminds him of another presidential contender.
"He's as exciting as JFK was," Anderson said, referring to John F. Kennedy's 1960 campaign.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/pol...s.10a736e.html
Eat it up Chumps
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