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You can't just predict Scola's future in the NBA only becouse another player, from another country and another style of play sucks in his team. Basketball is no math.
I don't think they realize Dirk, Manu, and others took some time developing their games once they came here. Even Yao took a couple years to become dominant and he's like what? 8'9 or something?!?!?! We need a role player that can get it done now. We can't wait for Scola to come around while getting paid like he's getting it done. Then he leaves after that contract is up for even more money.
You can't just predict Scola's future in the NBA only becouse another player, from another country and another style of play sucks in his team. Basketball is no math.
So you'd say he deserves more if he went undrafted? It seems you'd have no problem then. Your arguments as to what kind of salary he should get are pretty lame. The market value for a player of his caliber has already been set, partially by the Spurs in their Oberto deal. Whether he was drafted in the second round is immaterial. Is he currently worth a second round pick? No, of course not. Stop this nonsense.
And when did Sabonis come into the league for that deal? Tell me the year. Now think of what that entails. What was going on then? Where was the international game at that point? What were salaries in the NBA like in general? Pretty shoddy work there.
garbajoza is doing real good ,better tham what I spectedYeah, Malik Rose isn't as good as Michael Wright or Marcus Fizer.
Name me one smallish power forward who came to the US from Europe and played well.
and to tell you the truth Gasol is more a PF tham a Center.
Another PF is Diaw,he may not be the right now but he is smart and athletic.
And Dirk is a Pf,who happens to play all positions but center.I think Dirk could be a good example.
oh,and to be honest,every time Argentina played Germany,Scola guarded Dirk better tham many NBA PFs. and SFs.
If Scola would take a Oberto-like contract this summer and there's no other proven PF available, then I'd take him.
He can't be worse than Oberto/Elson. *shrug*
to be honest in Argentina everybody who knows basketball knows that Scola is 100 times better tham Oberto
Oberto has good BBIQ but he got to the NBA too old and he never worked out real hard to get heavier in order to push and block real big guys like Yao, or Shaq or most of the NBA starting centers.
But Scola man,he can be even more popular in SA tham what Manu is Right now.
he is all about hard work ,A team oriented player with a big heart and BIG BALLS too.
How many times does this have to be explained to you? I've explained it dozens of times and I've seen others try to educate you. It never works.
A player like Oberto, and even your boy George Garbage, could get more money on the open market because they were free agents. A second round pick isn't a free agent. It doesn't matter what Scola can get on the open market because the open market doesn't apply.
For example, look at Vassilis Spanoulis. This is a guy who was a star in Europe, led Greece to a World Championship and would have commanded big money on an open market. But he was a second round pick and property of the Houston Rockets. He signed a three-year, $5M contract with a team option on the third year.
That is Scola's market value. Spanoulis is younger, more athletic, plays a position which is transferable to the NBA and has just as much international success as Scola with much worse teammates. On the open market, Spanoulis could have gotten $10M+ ... but he didn't because he wasn't on the open market.
I don't know what is so hard for you to grasp. Then again you are the one who wanted to spend the MLE on Robertas Javtokas but nowadays you never even mention his name. So I don't think you are one to go to when judging the contract that international bigman should get.
So you seriously think Sabonis would have gotten less money on the open market than he ended up getting with the Blazers.
Please tell me you don't think that
I don't see a PF of equal value being available this summer for what he should cost (about half MLE). I know there are overtures about his rights being traded, but I don't see how the Spurs can get real value in return until Scola comes overseas and does what some on this forum doubt he can do.
Did you miss the part where I said smallish power forwards?
Garbajosa is taller than Scola and is a perimter player. Yet he can't shoot and is the worst rebounding big in the NBA. That's doing "really good"? I'd hate to see bad. Oh and this stud won MVP in the same league that Scola is in.
Dirk Nowitzki and Pau Gasol are not smallish power forwards.
I really don't understand why you think that just because Garbajosa is doing bad so far in the NBA, Scola has to have the same future.
Sabonis was (i belive)one of the first BIG GUYS to come to the NBA along with Vlade Divac.
So you seriously think Sabonis would have gotten less money on the open market than he ended up getting with the Blazers.
Please tell me you don't think that
at that time most of the NBA teamīs GM and coaches didnīt know exacly how was it gonna work out for them.
But now,with all the guys who came after them all GMs know that they can muchup with big guys in the NBA.
And I think thats why Sabonis took a not to spensive contract when he first came in.+I think he was hurt in one of his knees also before he entered to the NBA.
I never said that. I'm just point out to Mr. Body and ArgSpursFan that Garbajosa sucks. They are pointing to him as a reason why Scola is a success and the reason why Scola is worth $10M+.
If they would realize he's doing bad, I wouldn't have to hold their hand and lead them to the light.
He took a "not to spensive contract" because that's what second round picks do.
garbaza is a PF,if they play him as SF in toronto is another thing,but he really is a PF.
Nocioni played most of his carreer in the Argentinian league as a PF,and he played PF since he was a kid.but they play him SF cause he can shoot and also cause they have another guy but the PF and center who can rebound the ball.
Nice try though.
I understand your reluctance, but I'm a "solution" kind of person? If not Scola for half the MLE, then who and at what cost?
I'm skeptical that the Spurs can pick someone up of similar talent with the money they will be given. My philosophy is that he's an asset to the Spurs that has yet to be used, so let's see what the Spurs have in Scola and give this kid a shot.
I personally find it hard to believe that he will do worse than Oberto or Elson.
Huh?
I said name a small (little, pequeno) power forward who has done well in the NBA. Garbajosa isn't small and isn't doing well. Nocioni isn't a power forward. Dirk and Gasol are like 7-foot-2.
he was hurt,thatīs why.otherwise he couldīve been one of the greatest centers in NBA history.
Udonis Haslem but he is not at all the same kind of player than Scola.
My concern about Scola is : can a 6'8" player who isn't really strong, athletic or quick be an efficient low post scorer in nba ?
First, Scola is a legit 6'9", Ben Wallace, who's listed 6'9" in NBA seemed at least one inch shorter in the games they faced each other. ŋWhy people keep stating that' he's 6'8" why they don't say anything about small NBA players listed taller than they really are?
Garbajosa was signed in a 3 year deal, with a 2 mill euros buyout (so it would have needed some bucks in the contract)...
Scola is faster and more athletic than Garbajosa, despite being a FAR more fundamentally skilled and more dangerous player....perennial MVP candiate....If Garbajosa, a player of his size, less strong, less athletic, slower, can do well in NBA (or Oberto, for taking another example of a non-atheltic player getting minutes in NBA)......why do you keep thinking that he's just an average joe coming from Europe?
Scola buyout was 14 mill euros, after the end of this season, it will be down to 800 k euros, THAT and not another, was the reaosn of Scola not coming before, not because coach and scouts think he is an average Joe and an doubtful bet for NBA.
Boris Diaw.
Where do you get the 800K info? Not that I don't believe you, I've just never seen it in print.
BTW, Garbajosa isn't bigger than Scola. I even think that Scola is maybe 1" taller than Garbajosa.
Ask Dirk Nowinstky,Scola guarded him better tham Bowen when they faced each other.
Udonis Haslem the Euro
Exactly. I think he could. But the chances are about 50/50.
Is that worth making Scola the highest paid second round draft pick in NBA history?
When was the last time Scola played agaisnt Dirk ?
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