Scola shines on Tau´s win vs. Pau Orthez

[leemajors]

Just to your ¨knowlegde¨,Scola isn´t coming to the NBA unless He gets paid more tham what he really worths,cause of his Buy out with TAU Ceramica.And that´s been the issue discussed in this forum for a while.It´s not that he worths 3M p/year in his roockie season,it´s just that he needs to overcome the issue of buying out the reminding of his contract.
Chileno wevon!!!!de me decis q sos Argento vo Wevon??

or he could do what most players do when they come over - take out a loan and make payments, pay the rest off when they get their second, bigger contract.

[ArgSpursFan]

or he could do what most players do when they come over - take out a loan and make payments, pay the rest off when they get their second, bigger contract.

I think He´ll let the spurs FO take that loan to buy his contract out.
It´ll worth the effort of the monthly payments(like a brand new car)

[leemajors]

I think He´ll let the spurs FO take that loan to buy his contract out.
It´ll worth the monthly payments(like a brand new car)

spurs can only pay a limited amount of the buyout, this has been discussed repeatedly before. it's under $500k what they can contribute towards it, but chump or bruno could tell you the exact figure. do you have any idea what you're talking about?

[ArgSpursFan]

spurs can only pay a limited amount of the buyout, this has been discussed repeatedly before. it's under $500k what they can contribute towards it, but chump or bruno could tell you the exact figure. do you have any idea what you're talking about?

but,are you considering that Horry is retiring at the end of the season?+If they sign Scola they won´t need Ely ,who costs another 3M p/year.

[ChumpDumper]

I think He´ll let the spurs FO take that loan to buy his contract out.
It´ll worth the effort of the monthly payments(like a brand new car)

Yeah, it would be totally worth having Scola's contract voided, losing his rights and draft picks for a few years for cir venting the collective bargaining agreement. You should work for the Timberwolves.

[ArgSpursFan]

i´d just switch scola for Ely(if Ely don´t meet the expectations this year)

[ChumpDumper]

but,are you considering that Horry is retiring at the end of the season?+If they sign Scola they won´t need Ely ,who costs another 3M p/year.

Says who?

And even if he does cost $3 million, the Spurs won't need to use exception money to sign him.

[ArgSpursFan]

Yeah, it would be totally worth having Scola's contract voided, losing his rights and draft picks for a few years for cir venting the collective bargaining agreement. You should work for the Timberwolves.

I already have a good job.So no thanks

[ChumpDumper]

i´d just switch scola for Ely(if Ely don´t meet the expectations this year)

Giving a cursory look at the draft, I would be more inclined to use the exception money to secure a point guard or swingman. There looks like there is alot of big man talent in the draft. Conditions could certainly change.

[ArgSpursFan]

Says who?

And even if he does cost $3 million, the Spurs won't need to use exception money to sign him.

I don´t think Ely will meet the spurs expectations.He never showed nothing to the Clipps or the Bobcats.

[objective]

bottom line is there are some well-reasoned takes on why Scola shouldn't be signed, such as whether his game will translate to the NBA, whether the Spurs have bigger priorities, Scola's at ude towards the Spurs FO and vice-versa, etc . . . all quite reasonable.

But if someone thinks Scola can help the Spurs win (as I do), then signing him for cheap (relative to the average NBA salary) as he's allegedly been willing to sign for makes sense.

Other nonsense about making him the highest paid 2nd rounder in history or whether he gets more than Manu got in 02 and other crap is just trivial bull . If that kind of stuff mattered than the Spurs should have never signed Ginobili to a deal that was worth so many times more than George Gervin's in the 80's, after all, you can't pay a guard more than Gervin if he's never led the league in scoring! None of that is worth taking into consideration. All that matters is whether he will be a net plus at a partial-MLE price. The Spurs should be trying to compete and win a le not win the Sporting News fantasy challenge game using a salary index.

If the Spurs think Scola can help with his scoring, hustle, etc . . . the Spurs should sign him for the 3/9-10 he's asking.

If they think he's too small/slow/weak/ill-tempered . . . then they shouldn't sign him and should leave him to tool around Spain or trade his rights, doesn't matter which in the end.

[ChumpDumper]

I don´t think Ely will meet the spurs expectations.He never showed nothing to the Clipps or the Bobcats.

I don't think Scola will meet your expectations. He never came close to the rebounding production you have predicted for him for any team.

[ArgSpursFan]

bottom line is there are some well-reasoned takes on why Scola shouldn't be signed, such as whether his game will translate to the NBA, whether the Spurs have bigger priorities, Scola's at ude towards the Spurs FO and vice-versa, etc . . . all quite reasonable.

But if someone thinks Scola can help the Spurs win (as I do), then signing him for cheap (relative to the average NBA salary) as he's allegedly been willing to sign for makes sense.

Other nonsense about making him the highest paid 2nd rounder in history or whether he gets more than Manu got in 02 and other crap is just trivial bull . If that kind of stuff mattered than the Spurs should have never signed Ginobili to a deal that was worth so many times more than George Gervin's in the 80's, after all, you can't pay a guard more than Gervin if he's never led the league in scoring! None of that is worth taking into consideration. All that matters is whether he will be a net plus at a partial-MLE price. The Spurs should be trying to compete and win a le not win the Sporting News fantasy challenge game using a salary index.

If the Spurs think Scola can help with his scoring, hustle, etc . . . the Spurs should sign him for the 3/9-10 he's asking.

If they think he's too small/slow/weak/ill-tempered . . . then they shouldn't sign him and should leave him to tool around Spain or trade his rights, doesn't matter which in the end.

I couldn´t agree more.
And If the spurs feel like he is not needed,just trade him or let him go.He actually trusted the spurs FO when he got drafted,and the spurs FO knew that He had a big and large contract back them when they acquired his NBA rights.

[ArgSpursFan]

I don't think Scola will meet your expectations. He never came close to the rebounding production you have predicted for him for any team.

Yeah,US team thought the same when they played Arg,and them got busted.Good point chump.

[leemajors]

Yeah,US team thought the same when they played Arg,and them got busted.Good point chump.

i don't think that comment could be less germane to the discussion.

[ArgSpursFan]

i don't think that comment could be less germane to the discussion.

I´m just giving the guy some credit.
And I didn´t metion that he guarded Dirk better tham any NBA player.

[ChumpDumper]

I couldn´t agree more.
And If the spurs feel like he is not needed,just trade him or let him go.He actually trusted the spurs FO when he got drafted,and the spurs FO knew that He had a big and large contract back them when they acquired his NBA rights.

They didn't know exactly how big it was going to be or for how long.

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah,US team thought the same when they played Arg,and them got busted.Good point chump.

The US thought he wouldn't rebound at a rate of 20 per 48 minutes?

Did he rebound at a rate of 20 per 48 minutes? Or 17 per 40 minutes?

[ArgSpursFan]

They didn't know exactly how big it was going to be or for how long.

So ,you wanna make me belive that the San Antionio Spurs Organization didn´t know how big or large was the contract of a player that they´ve been watching for at least 1 year,before he got drafted????
Come on Chump.

[ArgSpursFan]

The US thought he wouldn't rebound at a rate of 20 per 48 minutes?

Did he rebound at a rate of 20 per 48 minutes? Or 17 per 40 minutes?

nope,he just owned a guy called O´niel.that´s all he did,and whas enough to beat them.of course +Manu+Nocioni etc ect

[ChumpDumper]

So ,you wanna make me belive that the San Antionio Spurs Organization didn´t know how big or large was the contract of a player that they´ve been watching for at least 1 year,before he got drafted????

Yeah.

The NBA buyout in Scola's initial contract with Tau was a staggering 12 million euros or $14.5million. The team later revised the contract to give Scola a much more affordable buyout based on where he was drafted in the first round. Yet because the deal never specified anything about being selected in the second round, Tau officials claim Scola must pay the original buyout if he wants to leave for the NBA or wait until his contract expires in three years when the buyout is reduced to $1 million.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b....6c5ecb8d.html

And:

Luis Scola will spend at least one more season with his team in Spain, according to a report in Lanacion.com of Argentina.

Scola, a member of the Argentina Olympic team, was picked by the Spurs in the 2002 draft. His team in Spain wants $4 million to buy out his current contract, according to Joe Reinagel of KENS 5 Eyewitness News.

http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblog..._scola_wo.html

So it looks like the terms of his buyout have changed at least a couple of time since he has been drafted.

[ChumpDumper]

nope,he just owned a guy called O´niel.

You didn't say that.

[ArgSpursFan]

Yeah.

The NBA buyout in Scola's initial contract with Tau was a staggering 12 million euros or $14.5million. The team later revised the contract to give Scola a much more affordable buyout based on where he was drafted in the first round. Yet because the deal never specified anything about being selected in the second round, Tau officials claim Scola must pay the original buyout if he wants to leave for the NBA or wait until his contract expires in three years when the buyout is reduced to $1 million.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b....6c5ecb8d.html

And:

Luis Scola will spend at least one more season with his team in Spain, according to a report in Lanacion.com of Argentina.

Scola, a member of the Argentina Olympic team, was picked by the Spurs in the 2002 draft. His team in Spain wants $4 million to buy out his current contract, according to Joe Reinagel of KENS 5 Eyewitness News.

http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblog..._scola_wo.html

So it looks like the terms of his buyout have changed at least a couple of time since he has been drafted.

ok,so they knew the buy out was big,we agree on that?
The thing was that the had this agreement back in 2002 that they´d just let him go to the NBA for a Millon bucks buyout.
So,why didn´t the spurs bring him in back them?
They waited and Now TAU knows It´ll be hard to replace him.

And the contract never changed,the buyout did,but that´s just a market price.The guy has developed his game since 2002 till now.hasn´t he?

[regio]

So how does Scola compare to Ginobili,Nocioni, and Delfino.
Ginobili>Nocioni>Scola>Delfino
or
Ginobili>Nocioni>Delfino>Scola

[ArgSpursFan]

So how does Scola compare to Ginobili,Nocioni, and Delfino.
Ginobili>Nocioni>Scola>Delfino
or
Ginobili>Nocioni>Delfino>Scola

i´d say
Ginobili=Scola=Nocioni>Delfino(But he is still young)