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    Ponky for president!



    Although I do think we have a pretty good bench, even if I'm not a huge Stackhouse supporter.
    oh, i think the bench is good, just not leaps and bounds above some of the other good teams' benches. even if you're not a stack fan, he's one of the main reasons people think our bench is deep.

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    I do not like this loss by dallas
    aj now has the team's attention this loss could be what the doctor ordered
    Hopefully.

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    No intelligent basketball fan says that holding a team to 45% shooting is great defense. So saying that the Suns deserve credit because some ignorant ass fans used to say that holding a team to 45% was great just doesn't make sense.


    Your team played well. You deserved to win. You deserve credit for that. But it's not like your defense was stellar.

    Didn't say it was stellar, but it was a of a lot better than in the past. You might want to talk to some of your fellow Mav fans who think holding teams to 45% shooting is great.

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    don't forget the amarelooms of mavs fans...although, amarelooms must be out celebrating this win of his alter ego's team





    what a weird guy


    I'll wait for a poster named Ginowitzki to come out of the woodworks

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    How old are you Nashfan?

    How old are you? I consider that a personal question. I am not a kid if that is what you are thinking.

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    oh, i think the bench is good, just not leaps and bounds above some of the other good teams' benches. even if you're not a stack fan, he's one of the main reasons people think our bench is deep.
    Yea, I know. I don't hate the guy by any stretch of the imagination, I'm just not a big fan. I feel like he thinks he's the greatest player in the league and he is super selfish a lot of the time. Almost everytime he has a big scoring output, we lose. It's not like I don't want him on the team, I'm just not as obsessed with him as say...Avery is. (dude, stack gets props from AJ after EVERY game) I also thought his remarks about the MVP thing were bogus. He thought it was stupid award won by a player because of the teams success. He wouldn't feel the same if he were in the running.

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    the last game against the Suns was the last meaingful game the Mavs have played. gimme a break. this was a must-win for Pheonix and their biggest game of the year. if this was the best Dallas could play we wouldnt be 61-12. we arent motivated anymore. wait til the playoffs when the games mean something, then you'll see the Mavs go out on a tear. however i think these last nine games they will get back to their mid-season form and beat up on teams again

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    jesus christ, do you just regurgitate everything you hear and take it for gospel? you think jj barea, maurice ager, pop mensah-bonsu and austin croshere cons ute a deep bench? the reason people think we have a deep bench is because we have two decent centers and we have stack, who can score points as needed. we have devean and buckner for defense but that's about it when it comes to the guys on the bench who are *useful* for much. you should learn to analyze and break down teams/games on your own and stop relying on what others say about teams...it's not always right.

    I believe it has been said in the media that Dallas has the deepest bench and I think you have talked about your bench. No one thinks our bench is that deep. If you think counting on Pike or Rose is going to do it, then you are just plain wrong. George and Buckner own those two for sure. I also think Barea would own Banks (who I really hate to see come in).

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    mavs and suns both won 2 games each now if I rember right
    also marion bricked 2 free throws that would have won the game
    and dirk made a three at the buzzer for a mavs win

    mavs are lucky suns did not sweep the mavs this regualar season

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    the last game against the Suns was the last meaingful game the Mavs have played. gimme a break. this was a must-win for Pheonix and their biggest game of the year. if this was the best Dallas could play we wouldnt be 61-12. we arent motivated anymore. wait til the playoffs when the games mean something, then you'll see the Mavs go out on a tear. however i think these last nine games they will get back to their mid-season form and beat up on teams again
    like I said this blowout loss is what aj wanted
    he has the team's attention now
    and can tell them they are all not that great
    they have to show up and play hard each game
    I would have rather dallas just loss by a basket

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    Age is a personal question? My apologies. You could call me a kid -- I'm only 22. I just assumed you were young by the way you seem to rationalize things and have some sort of crazy point you attempt to make as a comeback for everything.

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    Yea, I know. I don't hate the guy by any stretch of the imagination, I'm just not a big fan. I feel like he thinks he's the greatest player in the league and he is super selfish a lot of the time. Almost everytime he has a big scoring output, we lose. It's not like I don't want him on the team, I'm just not as obsessed with him as say...Avery is. (dude, stack gets props from AJ after EVERY game) I also thought his remarks about the MVP thing were bogus. He thought it was stupid award won by a player because of the teams success. He wouldn't feel the same if he were in the running.
    LOL, yeah I start screaming at the tv everytime he tries to play one on one bball. I do like him though, and as long as he makes intelligent shots, I'm ok with his presence on the floor. He had a huge game recently for the Mavs. Avery IS obsessed with him, I think it's because they're both older guys and probably have more in common on a personal level, their kids hang out with each other, etc. I was really ticked off about his MVP comments last season but at least this season he's come out and said he thought Dirk deserved the MVP.

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    the last game against the Suns was the last meaingful game the Mavs have played. gimme a break. this was a must-win for Pheonix and their biggest game of the year. if this was the best Dallas could play we wouldnt be 61-12. we arent motivated anymore. wait til the playoffs when the games mean something, then you'll see the Mavs go out on a tear. however i think these last nine games they will get back to their mid-season form and beat up on teams again

    Oh, I think the Mavs are motivated against the Suns. Avery would not have it any other way. Did you look at Dirks face towards the end or actually during the game? He want's to win. I can see not getting motivated against lesser teams but not a potential team you may play in the playoffs. When we played Detroit and got our heads handed to us, I thought we were not the better team that day by a long shot, no excuses. So, please don't use the motivation card concerning this game.

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    mavs and suns both won 2 games each now if I rember right
    also marion bricked 2 free throws that would have won the game
    and dirk made a three at the buzzer for a mavs win

    mavs are lucky suns did not sweep the mavs this regualar season
    yes, we are lucky that free throws and shots before the end of the game (the buzzer) count


    but let's not talk about clutch plays...that only come sout of the closet when the mavs lose close games

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    Age is a personal question? My apologies. You could call me a kid -- I'm only 22. I just assumed you were young by the way you seem to rationalize things and have some sort of crazy point you attempt to make as a comeback for everything.

    When you are my age it is personal I don't really think I make crazy points anymore than you or any other Mav or Spur etc., fan.

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    Oh, I think the Mavs are motivated against the Suns. Avery would not have it any other way. Did you look at Dirks face towards the end or actually during the game? He want's to win. I can see not getting motivated against lesser teams but not a potential team you may play in the playoffs. When we played Detroit and got our heads handed to us, I thought we were not the better team that day by a long shot, no excuses. So, please don't use the motivation card concerning this game.

    I don't believe in excuses either, but I also don't believe in throwing stuff out there and not backing it up with anything concrete, e.g. talking about Suns' defense today, talking about Mavs' fg% today, talking about Mavs' bench, talking about JJ like you know what you're talking about, etc. It's one thing to just post stuff but if you're never going to back it up and explain why you believe such things, then it doesn't mean squat, just an opinion by one Suns fan.

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    yes, we are lucky that free throws and shots before the end of the game (the buzzer) count


    but let's not talk about clutch plays...that only come sout of the closet when the mavs lose close games
    mavs made alot of clutch plays to win games this year
    I am just pointing out that the mavs should have been motivated to face suns

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    LOL, yeah I start screaming at the tv everytime he tries to play one on one bball. I do like him though, and as long as he makes intelligent shots, I'm ok with his presence on the floor. He had a huge game recently for the Mavs. Avery IS obsessed with him, I think it's because they're both older guys and probably have more in common on a personal level, their kids hang out with each other, etc. I was really ticked off about his MVP comments last season but at least this season he's come out and said he thought Dirk deserved the MVP.
    The first half of the season, if Stack was in the game with seconds remaining in a quarter, they used to always give it to him so he could create. HE NEVER CONVERTED. Drove me nuts.

    Like I said, I don't want him off the team or anything. He's not a bad player. I do think he's the only consistantly selfish guy on our team though. He really does think he's the best player on the team.

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    When you are my age it is personal I don't really think I make crazy points anymore than you or any other Mav or Spur etc., fan.
    Ah, whatever. Sorry if I offended you by asking your age... (??)

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    mavs made alot of clutch plays to win games this year
    I am just pointing out that the mavs should have been motivated to face suns
    you're right, they should've been. i don't know if they were or weren't, but they didn't seem focused enough to play any semblance of D. i think they just want the playoffs to start already...i know i do, i fast forward through lots of games lately. anyway, at least this loss will wake the mavs up to finish the regular season, i hope avery rests up some of the guys once they get the magic number to clinch hca, i don't care about the 70 and i don't think he does either...anyway, 65 is what they should get, from a historical playoffs perspective. like i said, i'm not going to lie, i'm very happy that the spurs will most likely meet the suns in the playoffs but i also hope we get past the first round and don't end up in a seven game series against the rockets.

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    It's all about the stats, something many Mavs AND Suns fans fail to consider when breaking down a game. Once again, you failed to address the stats I posted...
    I don't believe in excuses either, but I also don't believe in throwing stuff out there and not backing it up with anything concrete, e.g. talking about Suns' defense today, talking about Mavs' fg% today, talking about Mavs' bench, talking about JJ like you know what you're talking about, etc.

    Let's look at the defensive stats..

    Suns.......Mavs
    27...........17......defensive reb
    6.............3.......stl's
    4.............0.......blk's
    57%........50%...3pt %
    65%........46%....fg %

    Can't find the points in paint, but i think the Suns owned that one too by a healthy margin.

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    It's a lot easier to get defensive rebounds when the team is missing shots You guys weren't missing.

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    It's a lot easier to get defensive rebounds when the team is missing shots You guys weren't missing.
    Your guys weren't guarding

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    Maybe next time around somebody will tell Dirk that he's going to be playing basketball. Not bull ting around for 3 hours with a round orange bouncy thing.

    And is it just me, or has he completely forgotten how to make a three pointer?

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    The best news for the Mavs is that the Spurs will take care of the Suns...Dallas won't have to play them again this season...thank God!

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