Vecsey : Danny Ferry wants Beno

[Bruno]

Teams with a trade exception big enough to take Beno salary are :
Cleveland
Dallas
Denver
Detroit
Golden State
Indiana
Memphis
Milwaukee
New Jersey
Philadelphie
Phoenix
Portland
Seattle

Teams under the cap can too get Beno without sending back salaries :
Atlanta
Charlotte
Toronto (maybe, I'm not sure thay are far enough below the cap to take Beno's salary)

15 or 16 teams can do a Beno for trade exception trade.

[ancestron]

I say we keep him.

[lotr1trekkie]

Beno actually has a lot of upside for the right team---like Cleveland especially if they don't expect lockdown defense. Distribute the ball and shoot the 3's is his Euro game. We should take an exemption for him because he will be glued to the bench again next season anyway. Nice kid and good luck to him nest season.

[Mr. Body]

Beno actually has a lot of upside for the right team---like Cleveland especially if they don't expect lockdown defense. Distribute the ball and shoot the 3's is his Euro game. We should take an exemption for him because he will be glued to the bench again next season anyway. Nice kid and good luck to him nest season.

This is why it doesn't seem necessary to waste a draft pick to get rid of his salary.

[Obstructed_View]

If he was involved in a sign and trade the Spurs could then use that to take back more salary. But otherwise they won't be able to use it on their own free agent.

I thought they could use the trade exception to sign free agents. Doesn't that include their own?

I hate this . I'm so bad at it.

[Cry Havoc]

can anyone explain this trade exception stuff to me?

Is there a link that gives more detailed information about the rules governing trades against the salary cap?

Thanks.

[ChumpDumper]

can anyone explain this trade exception stuff to me?

Is there a link that gives more detailed information about the rules governing trades against the salary cap?

Thanks.

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#67

[bigfish22]

How about Drew Carey for Beno?

[Obstructed_View]

All of this is irrelevant anyway; Danny Ferry wants Beno sexually, not as a point guard for the Cavs.

[CubanMustGo]

All of this is irrelevant anyway; Danny Ferry wants Beno sexually, not as a point guard for the Cavs.

As long as they take his salary off our hands I don't care to what use they put him.

[Kibic]

This is personal. Pop is no gambler. No way he will let Beno even try to play well for other team. He is to scared that his mistakes become visible to all.

[K-State Spur]

This is personal. Pop is no gambler. No way he will let Beno even try to play well for other team. He is to scared that his mistakes become visible to all.

based on?

rasho has been given a chance to shine in toronto (he hasn't).
malik was given a chance to shine in NY (he didn't).
barry was going to be sent to the hornets.

come up with an example where Pop let a guy WITH VALUE rot on his bench instead of using/moving him.

[Obstructed_View]

This is personal. Pop is no gambler. No way he will let Beno even try to play well for other team. He is to scared that his mistakes become visible to all.

What's he going to do, kill him? Pay him for another year to sit on the bench? No way. Beno's already a visible mistake, and the time to get something, anything, for him is now.

[Bruno]

http://www.news-herald.com/site/news...id=21848&rfi=6

Rumor mill

- The Cavs could trade a future first-round pick to San Antonio for the Spurs' first-round pick (No. 28 overall). The Spurs have a history of trading out of the first round if they don't like what's there. The Cavs have also shown some interest in third-string point guard Beno Udrih, who makes about $1.8 million. The Cavs possess a $2.1 million trade exception from the Luke Jackson deal with Boston .

[ArgSpursFan]

based on?

rasho has been given a chance to shine in toronto (he hasn't).
malik was given a chance to shine in NY (he didn't).
barry was going to be sent to the hornets.

come up with an example where Pop let a guy WITH VALUE rot on his bench instead of using/moving him.

I would say Scola is the perfect example for that.I don´t think the spurs will trade his rights if He doesnt play for the spurs.Can you imagine us,Spurs fans,watching Scola play for other team and beating the out of the spurs,after He waited for 5 yrs and never got a chance to play in S.A?
I say if Scola don´t work a deal with the spurs,He wont play in the NBA at all.

[Obstructed_View]

I thought Scola signed the contracts that made him too expensive to buy out. Now he's talking publicly about signing a big contract overseas, which pretty much puts his trade value in the toilet. How is his situation a good example of something Pop is doing wrong?

[Mr. Body]

I thought Scola signed the contracts that made him too expensive to buy out. Now he's talking publicly about signing a big contract overseas, which pretty much puts his trade value in the toilet. How is his situation a good example of something Pop is doing wrong?

Easy math: if Scola signs a large extension, the Spurs get nothing for him. Lose an asset.

[Obstructed_View]

Easy math: if Scola signs a large extension, the Spurs get nothing for him. Lose an asset.

But it's not like they let him rot, and the Spurs aren't the ones signing him to large contracts which kill his chances of coming over here. In previous years, they'd have had to pay through the nose, more than he was worth, just to get him on the team. That doesn't even include his salary. It's not like that kind of asset is vaulable to anyone. Now that they might want to think about trading him, he's making himself look unavailable yet again. These problems are all his making, not the team's. I'm sure that the Spurs wouldn't have drafted him if they'd known this was going to happen. If a FO ever develops that kind of prescience, they'll win 20 championships in a row.

[Mr. Body]

The point is, for the Spurs, if he manages to spend the rest of his career in Europe, their asset is worthless, whether as a player or a trading chit. Culpability aside.

[Obstructed_View]

The point is, for the Spurs, if he manages to spend the rest of his career in Europe, their asset is worthless, whether as a player or a trading chit. Culpability aside.

Oh I agree with that. I was responding to the post that said it was an example of Pop willfully letting an asset rot on the bench without doing anything with it. Scola has repeatedly undermined any reasonable efforts to bring him to the NBA. That's all I'm saying. I hate that the Spurs have gotten nothing for the pick, but I hate more that he didn't get a chance to come play for the Spurs.

[Mr. Body]

I jumped in the thread late, sorry. But agreement here.

[K-State Spur]

I would say Scola is the perfect example for that.I don´t think the spurs will trade his rights if He doesnt play for the spurs.Can you imagine us,Spurs fans,watching Scola play for other team and beating the out of the spurs,after He waited for 5 yrs and never got a chance to play in S.A?
I say if Scola don´t work a deal with the spurs,He wont play in the NBA at all.

And where exactly is Scola's value? We couldn't package him for a first round pick last year and the best we can hope for right now is a second round pick.

In fact, you can make a pretty strong argument that Pop values Scola more than the rest of the league does based on what we want as a return. It's just that we don't value him enough to spend almost the entire MLE on him.

[thousandth]

What's he going to do, kill him? Pay him for another year to sit on the bench? No way. Beno's already a visible mistake, and the time to get something, anything, for him is now.

ahahaha. The Spurs=The Sopranos