The Oberto Dilemma - Oberto declines his option/becomes a free agent

[Man In Black]

I'm down with White Fundamental Nick Fazekas.

Obby can stay or go. His skills fit well with what the Spurs do and contrary to the opinion that what Obby does can be trained to other bigs, THEY HAVE TO WANT TO WORK AT IT. That was the problem that both Rasho and Nazr had, while they had the physical tool neccesary, they lacked the mental tenacity. I mean would those guys have stood in to take a hit from JHO that caused their heartbeat to go out of whack? naw, they would've puffed up their cheeks and then fallen down.

But the combination of the Big 3 plus the SYSTEM, makes the Spurs go. I truly feel that if the Spurs got 1 other AS level player, that they could win a le using the Big 4 and the merry minimum plan.

[timvp]

Kryhapa would have been getting minutes ahead of Finley and Barry if he'd been on this team.

Khryapa has had trouble getting playing time with players like Richie Frahm and Charles Smith ahead of him. Are we talking about the same Khryapa?

[picnroll]

Linton Johnson could be a place holder for a year.

[whottt]

So you're saying he wouldn't go to Dallas for a full MLE deal.

Hi stupid...I knew you'd be showing up soon.

Not different at all.

Completely different...Jack was euphoric.

Players lie.

And you think he's lying about saying he wants to play for the Spurs?

Why would he lie about that?

Nah. it's Nelly.

No...it's Nelly playing what he has and doing well with it...not playing what he wants...and if I'm wrong, I guess he'll be staying with GS, right?

[stxspurs]

anything over 3mil is too much for fabby. even though he was good at times his performance during the season wasnt more than 5pts maybe and about 6 in the playoffs. i would like for him to stay but not at a crazy price.
we dont want to mess up our cash for next offseason

[whottt]

Khryapa has had trouble getting playing time with players like Richie Frahm and Charles Smith ahead of him. Are we talking about the same Khryapa?

He's got Luol Deng, Tyrus Thomas and Adres Noccioni ahead of him...

If that's not the best SF rotation in the NBA...it's damn close.

And Portland didn't want to trade him.

[Solid D]

Linton Johnson could be a place holder for a year.

No thanks. I'd rather the Spurs call Administaff and get a temp from them.

[Mr. Body]

Linton Johnson could be a place holder for a year.

Yikes.

[Kori Ellis]

if you were oberto, you would do the same thing. Everyone just relax.

Pop will talk to him and manu and things will work itself out.

Oberto did the right move for Oberto and thats that.

If he leaves, he leaves a champion.

stop talking about him

Are you telling me to stop talking about him??? (You quoted me, so I assume so.)

Where did I talk ? I just said he'll get a standard offer from the Spurs and take it or not.

I don't really care one way or another.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

If Oberto leaves, cue Jackie Butler.

[timvp]

And you think he's lying about saying he wants to play for the Spurs?

Why would he lie about that?

Pietrus said it while on Tony Parker's French radio show. What did you expect him to say?

Parker: "Yo best friend buddy ol' pal, you should come play with me in San Antonio next year!"

Pietrus: "No I'm going to the team that offers me the most money."

Parker: "Ok."

[zekes]

naw, they would've puffed up their cheeks and then fallen down.

That just gave me a funny flashback to Rasho.

[whottt]

You're making comments like this and you question the validity of MY arguments....

Um...Finley sucked for just about all of the regular season and Pop hates Barry....he'd have played ahead of them if he'd been here, the fact that Barry actually was playing ahead of Finley(without Finley being hosplitalized) after the AS break is indicative of this...he's a better defensive player than either of them...way better. That counts with Pop...

And question the validity of my arguments all you want...just know the Spurs aren't exactly thrilled with Scola and I'd say about 90% of that is because of comments he has been making pretty much every offseason since they drafted him.

[whottt]

Pietrus hates the Spurs and there's absolute no reason he could conceivably want to play here

My bad...how could I not realize that...

[timvp]

I didn't know Pietrus made those comments on Parker's radio show.

[ChumpDumper]

Hi stupid...I knew you'd be showing up soon.

Are you saying it or not? Just answer the question. Would Pietrus turn down a full MLE deal from Dallas just because they were beaten by Golden State?

Completely different...Jack was euphoric.

Maybe Pietrus was high.

And you think he's lying about saying he wants to play for the Spurs?

Why would he lie about that?

Who knows? Maybe he would like to. Maybe not. Whatever the case, it's HIGHLY doubtful he would play fewer minutes in SA for less money.

No...it's Nelly playing what he has and doing well with it...not playing what he wants...and if I'm wrong, I guess he'll be staying with GS, right?

If they want him back, it's their choice. Certainly they would match an I-want-to-play-with-the-Spurs discount offer. They have no tax issues and plenty of roster spots to fill.

[whottt]

Pietrus: losing>winning

Got it

[pad300]

With Oberto opting out, that means that if Splitter is available at 28, you probably gotta take him. Fazekas at 33 would be a nice pick. McRoberts at 28?

Perhaps.

If either McRoberts or Splitter is available at 28 (barring Car accidents or other injury between now and the draft), you take them - even if Oberto didn't opt out... That pair has real talent. In most drafts (say 2006) they would be lottery picks (leaving aside buyout issues for Splitter). At 28 you grab and say thank you...

Fazekas is interesting. At 33, with Oberto opting out, assuming we didn't pick another big at #28, he's a serious option. He's a really good shooter, likes to play high post (matching well with Duncan playing low post). They key is can he defend against NBA caliber atheletes?

[Bruno]

The rumor about Pietrus wanting to go in SA started before the radio show with Parker.

[whottt]

Are you saying it or not? Just answer the question. Would Pietrus turn down a full MLE deal from Dallas just because they were beaten by Golden State?

Maybe Pietrus was high.

Who knows? Maybe he would like to. Maybe not. Whatever the case, it's HIGHLY doubtful he would play fewer minutes in SA for less money.

If they want him back, it's their choice. Certainly they would match an I-want-to-play-with-the-Spurs discount offer. They have no tax issues and plenty of roster spots to fill.

Going to go see 1408...I'll be back later, and since irridium has a slow decay rate...I imagine we'll be able to pick this up at that time with you not having changed much...

TTFN

[timvp]

The rumor about Pietrus wanting to go in SA started before the radio show with Parker.

Link?

And how much would you pay Pietrus to join the Spurs?

And how long before whottt jumps back on or off the Pietrus bandwagon?

Thanks.

[ChumpDumper]

What need does Pietrus fill?

[ChumpDumper]

I surrender.

[AFBlue]

So what was the amount of the qualifying offer that the Spurs matched in order to prevent him from being an outright FA?

In other words, what will he be making if no team offers him a contract and the Spurs don't offer him an extension?

[whottt]

I don't have any problems whatsoever beliving Pietrus wants to play for the Spurs...

Now how badly he wants that is up to debate...but however much that is...that hardly qualifies him as a liar.