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  1. #201
    Live by what you Speak. DarkReign's Avatar
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    LOL them our people!! Hispanics just like Blacks and They hate you Devils too..So Open up your eyes and quit being ignorant and see whats going on in the world Blacks didnt start this race ,We lost so many people due to race that its crazy and you expect us just to take from the devils hahaha Not Me and i can email you some pics that took place in my city that you will hear about soon on the National news that got me in this kill the Devil mode..
    Funny you of all people, using the word "ignorant" to describe anyone else.

    Or did you write this while staring into a mirror?

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    I didn't want to click on this thread because I assumed that it was just about all the Vick stuff, and frankly, I've watched enough on it to last a lifetime.

    However, thinking that I'd get some of the takes on the entire issue intrigued me enough to click.

    What is my reward for said clicking? A bunch of talk about racism??????????


    Are you ing kidding me? Black, white, yellow, red, whatever, the dude killed dogs.

    Get a ing life you reverse racists.

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    Hilarious for someone to insinuate racism from posters who routinely laud men like Tim Duncan, Bruce Bowen, Michael Finley, David Robinson, and Sean Elliott -- to only scratch the surface.

    I'm sure they're all Uncle Toms, too.

    Dog fighting is simply a hideous act. If Vick is proven guilty, he'll never play in the NFL again because he'll be rotting away, incarcerated. If it's shown that he was aware of the activity but didn't participate, he'll be banned from the NFL for life. In any event, his acts or his associations have certainly ensured that he'll be a much-despised figure for the rest of his public life. Frankly, I'm not sure exactly how one explains away 17 dog corpses and dog fighting equipment on one's property, particularly when it appears that the government has witnesses who can pinpoint specific details. I'm skeptical that Vick will be able to surmount that hurdle in this case.
    The saddest part in all that is that he'll somehow find a way to get away with this because he's a rich athelete with other more richer peoples monies riding on his success and return. Losing Vick would likely equate to losing around a billion dollars.

    I could care less if he actually bet on dog fighting and I could care less if actually killed the dogs himself. It was his ing house on his ing property with his kennel the he owned and it went on for months if not years. He has to be accountable for what happens in his home. Its not like this was some isolated incident. It was regular practice in his home. I hope they fry this guy like some chicken.

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    could care less if he actually bet on dog fighting and I could care less if actually killed the dogs himself. It was his ing house on his ing property with his kennel the he owned and it went on for months if not years. He has to be accountable for what happens in his home. Its not like this was some isolated incident. It was regular practice in his home. I hope they fry this guy like some chicken.
    To with due process, lets hang him!!!

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    Not to slow down the rush to judgment or anything, but does anybody remember the Calvin Murphy case?

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    To with due process, lets hang him!!!
    Its one thing if he didn't actually kill the dogs but it doesn't mean he's absolved of all responsiblity and all that goes on with his house and his kennel and his dogs.

    Like I said he'll get off with the whole oh I'm rich and its one of many houses I own I had no idea that my house was the hotbed for gambling on illegal dog fighting then killing dogs and dumping the corpses all through the property and oh I know its my kennel but hey I didn't know this was going on. Blah Blah Blah. So you think if he didn't actually kill the dogs he's not responsible of what goes on.

    You do know that people get life for murder but never actually pull the trigger don't you.

  7. #207
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    Looks like some of Vick's sponsors are not happy with him.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2951789

  8. #208
    Okay, why are some people trying to blame all of this on hip hop? Im no fan of most hip hop but dog fighting has been around for a very long time, long before hip hop.

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    Okay, why are some people trying to blame all of this on hip hop? Im no fan of most hip hop but dog fighting has been around for a very long time, long before hip hop.
    true.

    I have never subscribed to the theory of "the music made me do it".

    If you do something stupid because of music....you were messed up before you turned it on.

  10. #210
    Okay, why are some people trying to blame all of this on hip hop? Im no fan of most hip hop but dog fighting has been around for a very long time, long before hip hop.
    Really? I thought those 19th-century hillbillies way out in West Virginia were the OG's. Wrong?

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    dunno if this was posted but I just saw it this morning. This is a graphic photo of a dog after a dogfight. Just sickening that people allow dogs to do this to each other.

    http://www.usanimalprotection.org/gypsy100.jpg

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    dunno if this was posted but I just saw it this morning. This is a graphic photo of a dog after a dogfight. Just sickening that people allow dogs to do this to each other.

    http://www.usanimalprotection.org/gypsy100.jpg
    Dude, that is just ed up!!!

    I grew up with dogs as pets, and I would kill anyone that did that to my dogs.

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    Okay, why are some people trying to blame all of this on hip hop? Im no fan of most hip hop but dog fighting has been around for a very long time, long before hip hop.
    Quite true. I havent seen one post that blamed hip-hop.

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    dunno if this was posted but I just saw it this morning. This is a graphic photo of a dog after a dogfight. Just sickening that people allow dogs to do this to each other.

    http://www.usanimalprotection.org/gypsy100.jpg
    What the is wrong with people?!

    Yeah, this is sooooo comparable to boxing/MMA.

  15. #215
    Does anyone think Vick is going to play in the NFL again? With Taylor, Vick's personal dog fighting sidekick, singing like a canary this is going to get nasty as for Vick.

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    Does anyone think Vick is going to play in the NFL again? With Taylor, Vick's personal dog fighting sidekick, singing like a canary this is going to get nasty as for Vick.
    If Vick is convicted, then no, he'll never play in the NFL again.

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    I expect Vick to be back. He'll get a fine for allowing it to happen in his home but it'll be tough to lend credibility to low life gamblers and dog killers.

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    I expect Vick to be back. He'll get a fine for allowing it to happen in his home but it'll be tough to lend credibility to low life gamblers and dog killers.
    While that may be true . . . . the Feds never lose a case.

    He's gone.

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    While that may be true . . . . the Feds never lose a case.

    He's gone.

    Not if his lawyers can convince the jury that while the house was in his name he had nothing to do with it. As it stands now any jury in the world would probably find him guilty. His lawyers are going to try and portray Vick as a victim in the case who was being used by family members and friends taking advantage of his kindness. But that being said your point make sense due to the fact that you very rarely get a Federal Indictment against you if the Feds don't have a STRONG case against you. If they have pictures, phone calls, witnesses willing to testify, then Vick may be up s*** creek.

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    Not if his lawyers can convince the jury that while the house was in his name he had nothing to do with it. As it stands now any jury in the world would probably find him guilty. His lawyers are going to try and portray Vick as a victim in the case who was being used by family members and friends taking advantage of his kindness. But that being said your point make sense due to the fact that you very rarely get a Federal Indictment against you if the Feds don't have a STRONG case against you. If they have pictures, phone calls, witnesses willing to testify, then Vick may be up s*** creek.
    They have to have phone calls and such. And, there isn't a single person in this country that hasn't been exposed to the news out there that's going to have a favorable opinion of him. He's screwed.

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    Unfortunately this has become a racial issue. Atlanta is divided now, and it's getting ugly. Some season ticket holders have asked for their money back if he returns and some if he doesn't. It's a no win situation right now.
    He was on the radio this morning apologising to Blank and the fans, teammates etc. but he couldn't talk about anything legally. I just wish it was over but with Taylor singing like a canary, it's going to get worse.

  22. #222
    Quite true. I havent seen one post that blamed hip-hop.
    I read a column that Jason Whitlock wrote, blaming it on hip hop, and I've also heard a few people on television take the stance.

  23. #223
    I read a column that Jason Whitlock wrote, blaming it on hip hop, and I've also heard a few people on television take the stance.
    I've never subscribed to the "music made me do it" bull , but I used to teach in public school for years. One thing that showed up everyday as true as the sun would rise were kids dressed up like rappers (which I really don't give a about). About 85% of the time, they wore shirts with Pitbulls baring all teeth and some rapper in the background.

    I even remember seeing a T-shirt of "Lil' Bow-wow" when he was a kid holding on to two leashes of pitbulls ready to attack someone or something.

    I'm not saying that rap/hip-hop makes people want to fight pitbulls against each other, but it may glorify it just a bit.

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    I expect Vick to be back. He'll get a fine for allowing it to happen in his home but it'll be tough to lend credibility to low life gamblers and dog killers.
    such as Vick.
    Stick a fork in him.

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    They have to have phone calls and such. And, there isn't a single person in this country that hasn't been exposed to the news out there that's going to have a favorable opinion of him. He's screwed.

    I just read this mornig that one of the co-defendent that just pleaded out just stated that Vick was the bankroller for the entire thing. Man I'm anxious to see what kind of argument his attorneys are going to put up.

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