Vassilis Spanoulis Thread

[Borosai]

This thread has my seal of approval. Carry on.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Since Spurs get graces of Greece basketball and Papaloukas and Diamantidis would be players along with Spanoulis if decide join NBA here youtube video for Spurs fans in case these player choose come NBA.

Dimitrios Dimantidis

6-5 PG/SG/SF age 27

Greek A1 MVP 2007
Greek A1 Championship MVP 2004, 2006, 2007

Euroleague Final Four MVP 2007
Euroleague Defensive Player of Year 2005, 2006, 2007

http://youtube.com/watch?v=v_qA7bZ7wTg

Theodoros Papaloukas

6-7 PG/SG/SF age 30

Euroleague Final Four MVP 2006
Euroleague MVP 2007

FIBA International European Player of Year 2006

http://youtube.com/watch?v=lUKLDjjwo9c

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

and how many consecutive years has Linsey been hittin the crack pipe?

You don't see any talent compare to Manu? I think Spurs lucky Lindsey pick player instead of you.

[xmas1997]

All of this is very interesting and not at all surprising to me considering the way the Spurs do business within the guidelines of the NBA and as pioneers in the use of international stars.
And it makes more sense with the expected retooling that will most likely occur after this season.
I, for one, am glad to hear this news. CIA Pop at his best. He is probably the fairest coach in the NBA today.
And this makes next year as exciting as this year even if only VSpan plays for the Spurs. However if the Spurs can also afford the luxury of getting those other two Greeks as well, then they would be an unbelievably strong team.

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

what would be the rox motive to trick span into contract and not play him? i dont understand, trade value based on his euro-credentials? please explain why the rox screwed him on purpose kill bill

[my2sons]

i like these american foxes, cuz we are still two wild and crazy guys!

[picnroll]

Have to admit it's the first time I've seen a highlight video of a player that consisted mostly of taking charges and committing hard fouls.

[smrattler]

LOL, this thread kicks ass!

Oh man, KBP, tell me you will keep posting here at least till next summer!

[JsnSA]

Yeah. KBP post's are awesome. I just can't tell if he is a real poster or a mouse type persona.

Where is he posting from...IP wise?

[Indazone]

KBP Post are great. He'd be dissed all the way back to Greece on the Rockets board though because of the "I was T-Mac back in Greece joke". However, you can't make this much stuff up. I"ve always thought that JVG was a stiffling unimaginative coach. That passing offense of his is so 1950's old school that it makes you cringe just watching it. I grew up watching Duke Basketball, Princeton, Indiana and UCLA and it was always full of motion and cutters, pick and rolls, and finding the open man. It was exciting basketball and it's the right way to play the game. Not the way JVG played the game and cracking a whip on players the whole way. This is the NBA not a JV squad in high school.

In any event, Yi Jian Lian has an agreement of playing time even though coach K has said he never offered it. Well Coach K might not have offered it but you better believe that the rest of the Bucks organization along with Senator Kohl had discussions about it. If Yi gets punked by the Bucks, it means that China will use their clout and likely ban all future Chinese players from coming over. Stern would get a copy of their complaint and then everyone from the Commishioner on down would be feeling the pressure of placating China. So yeah, that's just too much politics with the Yao and Yi deals that it makes sense that there has to be some type of reassurances in place. So what KBP says makes sense for Greek Basketball.

[wildbill2u]

LOL, this thread kicks ass!

Oh man, KBP, tell me you will keep posting here at least till next summer!

You hang in there Kill Bill. You are taking on some of the most authoratative Spurstalk posters and not backing up an inch. A lot of us love it!

You need to ask them to respond in Greek and see how their posts translate.

And I absolutely believe that wuss, Jeff Van Gundy, used the exact words, "doggie house."

[BeerIsGood!]

This is great. Is this guy really Greek, or is this all a great joke? I can't tell, but the whole "Billy" thing is straight up hilarious.

Great parts are the notion that Pop guarantees playing time to an unproven guy with ZERO NBA experience. That's classic.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Well if this comparison be use both player play as rookie in ULEB Cup which if you need explanation thinks of ULEB Cup as compare to Euroleague = like eastern conference compare to western conference of NBA.

Also this NOT "Greece" this Greece team as ULEB Cup is CONTINENTAL tournament NOT domestic.

Washington never play in Euroleague unlike Spanoulis. But both plays in ULEB Cup as rookies so we can compare also because plays with similar team as be mid-levels Greek team where player be star point guard. Spanoulis with Maroussi BC and Washington with PAOK BC.

ULEB Cup Darius Washington with PAOK BC

20.7 minutes per game

45.3% shooting overall
47.1% 3 point shooting
75% FT shooting

10.6 points per game

2.3 rebounds per game

1.6 FIBA assists per game

or

2.1 NBA assists per game

1.9 steals per game
.3 blocks per game

Team make it to Final 8

Washington play as 6 man and rookie, NOT voted Rookie of Year or 6 Man of Year.


ULEB Cup Vassilis Spanoulis with Maroussi BC

26.6 minutes per game

47.2% shooting overall
40.0% 3 point shooting
81.6% FT shooting

15.2 points per game

1.8 rebounds per game

3.8 FIBA assists per game

or

5.0 NBA assists per game

1.0 steals per game
0.0 blocks per game

Team make it to FINAL FOUR

Spanoulis play as 6 man and rookie, and he be voted Rookie of Year and 6 Man of Year.



So Spanoulis lead his team to Final Four and Washington lead his team to Final 8.

Spanoulis be 6 Man of Year and Rookie of Year and Washington also play as rookie and 6 man be neither one.

Per 40 minute stats

Darius Washington

45.3% shooting overall
47.1% 3 point shooting
75% FT shooting

20.5 points per game

4.4 rebounds per game

3.1 FIBA assists per game

or

4.1 NBA assists per game

3.7 steals per game
.6 blocks per game

Vassilis Spanoulis

47.2% shooting overall
40.0% 3 point shooting
81.6% FT shooting

22.9 points per game

2.7 rebounds per game

5.7 FIBA assists per game

or

7.5 NBA assists per game

1.5 steals per game
0.0 blocks per game



Also Spanoulis can play shooting guard also and also Spanoulis bigger player and of course everyone know Spanoulis better defender. Washington very good defender but Spanoulis better defender than even say Manu.

Only thing Washington better at was rebound and 3 point shooting. Actual now Spanoulis today probable better rebounder than Washington as he made to work on this by Van Gundy. He able to get 5 to 6 rebound now even in Euroleague.

Washington also get more steals but Spanoulis still much better defender. Any Europe fan should know this.

But Washington still better 3 point shooter. Spanoulis still like Parker on 3 points. Have NBA range but just not consistent with shot make.

But Spanoulis better in every other aspects of game than Washington.

Can play two position both offense and defense compares Washington with 1. Spanoulis 6-4 Washington only 6-2. Spanoulis more athletic, faster, quicker, stronger player.

Spanoulis noticeable better defender. Spanoulis better scorer, better 2 point shooter, better free throw shooter, much better play maker much better create assists. Spanoulis also much more clutch player and much better big games player and can lead team himself further than Washington.

So now that Spurs fans see what player like Washington can do with given freedom and chance to play normal game by Popovich, Spurs fans should be able see what player such as Spanoulis that is much superior to player like Washington can do as backup combo guard with Spurs.

This what I try explain to fan here. They get Spanoulis for sure Spurs once again champions team of NBA.

[ChumpDumper]

Why do we need to compare them?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Why do we need to compare them?

[jman3000]

I'll take the worse FT shooter, thanks.

[whottt]

Washington = Not afraid of the NBA

Vaginis = Afraid of the NBA


Therefore:

Washington > Vaginis


Beno > Vaginis

Any player in NBA > Vaginis

[mardigan]

Beno > Vaginis

[exstatic]

Exactly. DWash has one huge advantage...no make that two: he's available and he really wants to play in the NBA. I don't really care what Spandex is doing in Europe, since he clearly doesn't want to play in the NBA, and is under contract.

[ducks]

he better hope washing does not exployed if he wants spurs to sign him

spurs will tell him no

[whottt]

I just want to know why you keep bringing him up?


None of us were complaining about the idea of the Spurs signing him...


He's the reason he's not here.


So I don't understand why you are trying to convince us he'd be a good fit for our team...you need to convince him.

He's the reason he's not here.


And likely...he won't be now. The Spurs got another PG they like now. And they aren't likely to be wanting to pay this dudes stupid freaking buyout. They already bought him out once.


I wish Vaginis well...too bad he didn't want to play for the Spurs. His fault, not ours.

And when it comes right down to it...did you see the ring celebration? That's why we don't really give a damn what he does.

[whottt]

IF you want to be a Spurs fan...welcome to Spurs fandom...


IF your purpose it just to jock some guy who could have played for the Spurs but didn't want too, to us Spurs fans...


We get it, you're a Vaginis fan...what do you want us to do about it? Beg him to sign here?


I just don't get the purpose...


Sit back and watch a Spurs game sometime...the basketball world doesn't begin and end with Spannoulis.


It begins and ends with the Spurs

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Why do we need to compare them?

Because I likes Washington for Spurs backups point guard. Much better for Spurs than Vaughn and Udrih.

Now this make available backup SG for Spanoulis. Spanoulis so similar player like Manu just like Lindsey also agree.

Spanoulis if allow play free and proper by Popovich unlike stupid Van Gundy then Spanoulis be much better player for Spurs than Finley and Barry.

And for fan not believe Van Gundy complete ruin Spanoulis look at how McGrady play in Orlando and now under Adelman then look at how he play under Van Gundy.

Spanoulis average 2.7 point in 8.7 minute for Rockets with Van Gundy but under coach like Adelman or Popovich this more like 5.7 point.

Van Gundy have cause most all player 3-5 point average less per game over career every team he coach Daryl Morey GM of Rockets have say this true from his stat analise.

If Spurs can have Washington and Spanoulis as backup guards they can for sure win champions next year.

[Mr. Body]

Kill Bill Pana for 2007-2008 Poster of the Year. I already call it.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I just want to know why you keep bringing him up?


None of us were complaining about the idea of the Spurs signing him...


He's the reason he's not here.


So I don't understand why you are trying to convince us he'd be a good fit for our team...you need to convince him.

He's the reason he's not here.


And likely...he won't be now. The Spurs got another PG they like now. And they aren't likely to be wanting to pay this dudes stupid freaking buyout. They already bought him out once.


I wish Vaginis well...too bad he didn't want to play for the Spurs. His fault, not ours.

And when it comes right down to it...did you see the ring celebration? That's why we don't really give a damn what he does.

He NOT have buyout after first year he have PLAYER OPTION so he have buyout only if not choose opt out. How many time this have to be explained?

He and agent and Spurs talks about this before he join Panathinaikos to make sure he have choice to opt out with no buyout after year if want to come join Spurs if mom do better.

Why fans here need explain thing like 25 time?