Who is this 'McAdoo'?
-Mars
Bob MacAdoo....
FIBA assist totals are about 30-40% lower than the NBA totals based upon the shorter games and the different way in which they are awarded. FIBA assists are harder, if a player dribbles, or fakes and then shoots, the passer does not get an assist.
For instance, if Nash went over to play in Euro, his assist totals would go down about 30% or so......
So, 7 assists a game over there is more like 12-14 in an NBA game....
DD
Yes Spanoulis average 5 assist in Greek league this year and usually if he gets 5 assist in game I count about 7-9 NBA assist.
Please read what you are saying...you can't say that FIBA assist count is 30-40 % lower than NBA assist count and then say something like 7 european assists equals 14 nba assists. That's like 100 % lower, not 30 %.
Panatinaikos got eliminated and will NOT make Euroleague playoffs.
They look like the Mavericks of the Euroleague.
Except that there is no salary cap over here, and they spent 10 times more money than some of the teams that got in, just to watch them play on TV.
Spanoulis record as a team player is becoming seriously questionable.
The posts of his devoted fan should get rarer and more cautious.
That reminds me of a quote of a waterpolo coach that a former teammate of mine talked about about.
A croatian guy.
Waterpolo is simple sport.
60% is the goalkeeper.
70% is the center.
Everyone else is 10%.
It must be something in the balkans.........
What you talk about? I COUNT the NBA assist in game. I say today he have 14 assist by NBA way and 7 by FIBA way. It not base on 30% this is just average number that ESPN expert come up with I think he say 31% I see this before in Rocket fan site.
Like I have say here Pepe Sanches only average 3-4 assist when he in Greek league maybe you try learn some new thing and watch some clip of him on youtube such passer only get 3-4 assist in Greek league. He as good passer easy as Nash.
Some time Spanouli get 3 assist it like 6 or 7 NBA assist some time it like 9 some time is same as 3. It depend on how the pass is make. Because like say all pass Steve Nash make to Amare that are bounce pass and Amare catch one dribble or even he some time wait second then dunk or he some time pump fake then dunk NONE of these is assist in FIBA. Can be 5 or 6 dunk each game Amare get from nash pass and none of these are assist in FIBA. Understand?
So it depend on type of pass some time Spanoulis have more bounce pass to player some time more no look pass. No look pass usual is assist because player no dribble before dunk. Bounce pass usual driblle before dunk so no assist. Also have no if Spanoulis drive under bask then kick ball out to open shooter not assist for Greek league because ball go away from basket. See how this be?
So depend if Spanoulis make more pass from 3 point line to basket he get more assist if he drive ball more and pass back away to open shooter less assist. Understand? So in game some time when he play SG if he get 3 assist it maybe like 6 assist in NBA. When he play point guard all game he is drive much more and many more kick out to open shooter and many more pick and roll and bounce pass. Today he play point guard all game and run team. Saras and Diamantidis not allow run team because championship is being play and coach already see how other two handle Euroleague eliminations game.
Hope this explain to you. For year Spanoulis is average 5 assist in Greek league and he is about 9 for NBA assist.
Last edited by Kill_Bill_Pana; 03-26-2008 at 06:52 PM.
Team have starting C and PF injure all year that way they lose in Euroleague. If you notice today team final get back starting Pf Tsartsaris and BEAT Olympiacos for championship. Olympicas already advance to Euroleague playoff. if PAO is so poor team how can they beat Olympiacos which make Euroleague playoff for win Greek Cup?
Is because now starting pF of team is back. How Spurs play if lose starting PF and C? They make NBA playoff? I not think so.
Beside like I already explain here in some talks Saras is problem of PAO. He is extreme selfish and ego player. Coach have enough of him and after disaster in Euroleague with his selfish ball hog play as can see today in championship game he not allow run team or play point guard. he also play only 15 minute. Spanoulis play 34 minute and run team whole game and play point guard whole game.
Saras is one who cause problem in Euroleague with ball hog play. And some dumb fans believe Saras is better player than Spanoulis? Explain then why coach has not allow him play point guard and run team anymore for domestic championships? Why he now get 15 minute and Spanoulis 34 in Cup final game? As usual it just same way many fan like bad mouth Spanoulis. You know in game today Olympiacos fans throws rocks and hits him
By way our team have the €30 million budget which be $47.5 million in the US money. Also because our club pay the net salary in Greece have to pay 40% tax for all athlete of club and because in NBA this different. In NBA team have not to pay player tax salary instead player must pay this.
But PAO pay this for players. Because of this Euroleague President have admit PAO team have player budget = to the $72 million in the US way which he admit PAO is team be pay "luxurious tax" if in NBA.
Even though our owners is very rich. Many billions of dollars yes it is true our owners VERY upset team with such budget not make Euroleague playoff even though starting PF and C were injure.
Saras is highest pay basketball player of Europe, highest pay in world not in NBA and he is highest pay athlete in history of Greece. If count his extra pay like bills, car, house, also count exchange rate and also count all tax pay Greek paper mention he make only $3 million less than Kobe
Yes it true team owners not happy with this with such budget but understand this is PAO club 100 year celebration. Basketball team is found 1922 but athletic union is found 1908. For 100 year celebration PAO owner go huge on budget of team try win championship. Not sure how budget be next year.
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