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So what is Phoenix going to do? Have Nash pull up at half court to wait on Shaq's fat ass to get down to the low block so they can start their offense with about five seconds left on the shot clock?
Mardigan, you all of a sudden believe D'Antoni is a man that "Plays his bench"???
If so I have some ocean front property in arizona to sell ya.
So what is Phoenix going to do? Have Nash pull up at half court to wait on Shaq's fat ass to get down to the low block so they can start their offense with about five seconds left on the shot clock?
"7 Seconds or Less" now refers to the amount of time Shaq is allowed to spend in the lane.
No, but the stats dont lie.
And how can this not be an improvement over Brian freakin Skinner?
Because they gave up the one player that can guard the Suns killer Tony Parker.And how can this not be an improvement over Brian freakin Skinner?
This is Kurt Thomas' career best single season scoring average:
14.0
This is what Shaq is scoring this season:
14.2
Stats do lie.No, but the stats dont lie.
Watch the Suns next time they are in a tight game.
Nash Stoudamire will all be in the 40s.
Marion has been disrupting their chemistry and causing problems since Amare got there. They have been offering him up on a regularly basis and very few teams have wanted to take his whiny ass. He's jealous of Nash/Amare, thinks he's the MVP of the team, and constantly complaining about everything from cheerleaders skits to touches.
It's not a surprise to me at all that they would get rid of him. Maybe old/fat Shaq is the best they could get in return.
They can run their offense through Shaq when Nash is on the bench...something could never do with Marion...since he has the post game of crepe paper.
So . . . scoring is what the Suns need?
Being option 2.This is Kurt Thomas' career best single season scoring average:
14.0
This is what Shaq is scoring this season:
14.2
With Phoenix hes option....
5?
amare is the cancer
the one person by himself
not marion
What did he say about cheerleaders' skirts? He might have had a point there.
EDIT: whoops, my bad.
something could never do with Marion...since he has the post game of crepe paper.
Their offense will suffer when Nash goes out STILL.
Period.
Thinking throwing out a 350 pound bad footed Shaq out there is gonna fix that is lunacy.
Their half court offense is going to be a ...
I hate to tell you guys this, but Nash can play half court ball as good as he can run...the fact that he's now going to have Shaq and Amare inside...
You'd have to be insane to want that scenario.
And that's something Marion could never do...Marion is a total garbage scorer/3 point shooter, he is not a dominant offensive player in any way shape or form. And he never has been.
marion is upset at always beign in trade talks
I would want out to!
Bull. Marion is the one that has been causing chemistry problems for years. Ask Steve Nash or anyone associated wtih the Suns.
He's a whiny . He's been whining and ing for years. He's amazingly insecure and completely jealous of his teammates.
What did he say about cheerleaders' skirts? He might have had a point there.
I think shes referencing the story from the Suns book.
Wich if true, is one of the wackiest things I've ever heard.
marion wants more credit to yes
but I have read amare is the one that thinks the suns should be his team not nashes team
He threw a fit because the cheerleaders wore Amare/Nash jerseys in a half time skit and not his.What did he say about cheerleaders' skirts? He might have had a point there.
EDIT: whoops, my bad.
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Actually...he'll probably be option #2 when he's on the court....after Amare....since Nash wants to distribute first.
Anyone that doesn't think this makes the Suns exponentially better in their half court offense is freakin insane.
My initial reaction was this trade was a horrible trade for the Suns. Shaq for three years and $60M while at the same time giving up Marion? Sounds bad.
But now after thinking about it some more, I see how it makes sense. The Suns, how they are built now, aren't going to win a championship. As constructed, they've already peaked and are on the way down. The chemistry is bad and getting worse. Not only that, with the Lakers getting Gasol -- that moved them past the Suns in the championship contender list. The Suns couldn't guard Bynum alone ... how would they guard Bynum and Gasol? Out of everyone in the West, the Gasol trade hurt the Suns the most.
Now obviously Shaq is past is prime and has gotten injured a lot ... but you have Shaq on your team, you have a chance at a championship. Period. Even if Shaq can be 75% of what he was, he can still be a dominant force. Put him on a team with a point guard that can get him the ball, a power forward that will make it impossible to double-team him with a big and solid veteran role players and the Suns will be legit championship contenders. Plus they'd be losing Marion who is probably the most overrated player of this generation.
People can question Shaq all they want but a motivated Shaq is the last player I want the Spurs to go against in a seven game series. He can guard Duncan as well as anyone ever has. When motivated, he has always been underrated as far as clogging up the lane by himself defensively. Parker and Manu will have a tough time getting to the rim and scoring with Mt. Shaq taking up so much room.
And the most underrated aspect of this trade would be the automatic chemistry improvement this would bring the Suns. Shaq is an unconventional leader and teammate but everyone who has ever played with him who wasn't an egomaniac (Kobe) has loved Shaq and would take a bullet for Shaq. If he came in and was healthy enough to contribute, the Suns would go from having bad chemistry to having great chemistry. Nash tries to lead that team but he doesn't demand as much respect as Shaq would. A motivated, 75% effective Shaq would do whatever he could to help the Suns win a championship and his teammates would follow.
As a Spurs fan I wouldn't like this trade because the Spurs show they can beat the Suns how they are ... and the Spurs over the years have lost all their players who could guard Shaq. Oberto and Elson can't even guard a 50% Shaq. In the matchup between the Spurs and the Suns, the Suns would all of a sudden become the bigger, stronger team.
It'd definitely be a risky trade but if you are the Suns and you are dangling Marion, Shaq is the only player you could get who would give you a chance to win a championship. The Suns don't need yet another athlete or role player to put next to Nash. The Suns need a dominant player with a dominant personality to put that team on his shoulders ... if only for moments at a time. Nash is a great player but he can't do that no matter if you put another athletic All-Star around him. D'Antoni can't do that. Shaq can.
Marion said in a magazine that Nash might have won MVP of the league, but that he is the MVP of the team.
And you think Amare is the problem?
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