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    You don't seem to get it. If you didn't fall in love with Obama then you obviously have an agenda and hate black people.
    It all makes sense now.

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    It seems that PeeWee and the writer of this letter both have ulterior motives - pretend to like Obama and then regurgitate wing-nut talking points...Yes, anyone who questions if past U.S. foreign policy might have led to the 911 attacks is anti-American
    And Dan keeps on scrambling... he still doesn't really know how to get his arms around the "maybe Obama is a politican after all" revelation... the left-wing blogs haven't developed their talking points for it yet... dan hasn't been instructed what to think

    I think the deeper issue here is that what we are saying to everyone, and especially our future leaders, watch what you say and who you congregate with, no matter what you may believe, because it can and will be used against you by the your enemies M$M....now that's an Amerika to be proud of...
    I know, you prefer an Amerika where left-wing politicans can create unvettable images of themselves, rather than an America where we can find out what they really are like, absorb the knowledge, and make an informed judgment about how they will govern.

    You don't want America to deconstruct the spin. You want America to swallow your Kool-Aid. Now scurry along and receive your new talking points to regurgitate.

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    If Nbadan disavows guilt by association, how will he be able to post?
    IOKIYAD.

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    This is where he conveniently claims he isn't a D.

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    This is where he conveniently claims he isn't a D.
    IOKIYAAADPR.

    (It's OK If You're An Anti-American less "Progressive" Radical).

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    .... now that's an Amerika to be proud of...
    Are you Greek too?

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    You don't seem to get it. If you didn't fall in love with Obama then you obviously have an agenda and hate black people.
    Why do all latinos hang from Hillary's nuts?

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    And Dan keeps on scrambling... he still doesn't really know how to get his arms around the "maybe Obama is a politican after all" revelation... the left-wing blogs haven't developed their talking points for it yet... dan hasn't been instructed what to think
    Attacking the messenger cause you can't debate logically is weak...







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    Attacking the messenger cause you can't debate logically is weak...

    Get ready for the slap, here it comes, here it comes...

    But of course they're right that it'll hurt him electorally because Obama's going to have a hard time explaining that I take to be the truth, namely that his relationship with Trinity has been a bit cynical from the beginning. After all, before Obama was a half-black guy running in a mostly white country he was a half-white guy running in a mostly black neighborhood. At that time, associating with a very large, influential, local church with black nationalist overtones was a clear political asset (it's also clear in his book that it made him, personally, feel "blacker" to belong to a slightly kitschy black church). Since emerging onto a larger stage, it's been the reverse and Obama's consistently sought to distance himself from Wright, disinviting him from his campaign's launch, analogizing him to a crazy uncle who you love but don't listen to, etc. The closest analogy would probably be to Hillary Clinton's inconsistent accounting of where she's from (bragging about midwestern roots when trying to win in Iowa, promptly forgetting those roots when explaining away a loss in Illinois, developing a sporadic affection for New York sports teams) -- banal, mildly cynical shifts of association as context changes.
    OH! DAMN!

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    Matthew Yglesias? Isn't he hanging from Hillary's nuts with the rest of his Latino compadres?

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    Matthew Yglesias? Isn't he hanging from Hillary's nuts with the rest of his Latino compadres?
    I think he's actually a Jew of Spanish lineage.

    OMG THAT'S EVEN WORSE!!!! IT'S THE JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZ!!!!

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    I think he's actually a Jew of Spanish lineage.

    OMG THAT'S EVEN WORSE!!!! IT'S THE JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZ!!!!
    He's probably hanging from Hillary's Matzo Balls then.

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    Tomorrow will be Obama's most important speech of his political career. For me it won't be a turning point since I believe him when he says he doesn't agree with the statements of Rev. Wright. But when you support someone, as I do Obama, you tend to give them the benefit of the doubt.
    But when the doubts of many have raised, over and over and over again on FoxNews, it is much harder to change to those doubts.
    Just like Romney gave an excellent speech about religion it was not enough to convince those that have doubts about the Mormon faith.
    I can only hope and pray for Obama and the rest if up to the American people. I live in the real word and realize that Senator Obama's presidential campaign may just be on the down slide and that is a fact that I cannot deny.
    On one hand I have this feeling that Yes, the American people will see the man Obama truly is.
    On the other hand I've seen how politcs can turn in an instant and recovering can almost be impossible. But I'm keeping my fingers crossed on both hands that they can come together and form a bond that is not left or right but as one.

    And I will take all the bashing from you all can dish out as it is well deserved considering the evidence. But I also feel that the facts don't always tell the entire story.

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    I find it hard to believe this Pastor/Minister hasn't said such controversial things in the past when Obama boy was in attendance, therefore if he did and continued to attend this ers services then I would have a big problem. In other words You Hussein Obama!
    Amazing how many people still fill the pews at Hagee's services. Granted John Boy wasn't there but he's heard Hagee's words none the less and so have many members of Hagee's church and they are still there.

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    Joe, you've got a lot to learn about McCain...there's a reason why he's been swiftboated by Republicans more often than Monica Lewingski...they know that after eight years of Dubya, their chances of winning with a McCain/Jesus ticket in 08' would be slim to none...so give the old man his run...watch him lose, hope that the 'other' Republican running as a Demo wins, Hitlary, and then maybe crazy mcCain will go away
    I know enough about McCain to know he is a man of honor and integrity. His actions regarding this issue is solid proof of that.
    And at this point, in all honesty, I see McCain kicking democratic ass in November. He is looking so Presidential right now.

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    Why do all latinos hang from Hillary's nuts?

    Because her nuts are bigger than anyone who hails from Argentina..Ole!

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    Tomorrow will be Obama's most important speech of his political career. For me it won't be a turning point since I believe him when he says he doesn't agree with the statements of Rev. Wright. But when you support someone, as I do Obama, you tend to give them the benefit of the doubt.
    But when the doubts of many have raised, over and over and over again on FoxNews, it is much harder to change to those doubts.
    Just like Romney gave an excellent speech about religion it was not enough to convince those that have doubts about the Mormon faith.
    I can only hope and pray for Obama and the rest if up to the American people. I live in the real word and realize that Senator Obama's presidential campaign may just be on the down slide and that is a fact that I cannot deny.
    On one hand I have this feeling that Yes, the American people will see the man Obama truly is.
    On the other hand I've seen how politcs can turn in an instant and recovering can almost be impossible. But I'm keeping my fingers crossed on both hands that they can come together and form a bond that is not left or right but as one.

    And I will take all the bashing from you all can dish out as it is well deserved considering the evidence. But I also feel that the facts don't always tell the entire story.
    Rezko's around the corner. Obama revealed on Friday that Rezko and he were more involved than previous admitted. It's just that Rev. "I-hate-white-people" Wright ate the news cycle.

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    Rezko's around the corner. Obama revealed on Friday that Rezko and he were more involved than previous admitted. It's just that Rev. "I-hate-white-people" Wright ate the news cycle.
    Yeah, I've heard about that too. But nothing has been proven he did anything illegal. The Chicago media has been investigating it for almost 2 years now. But I could be wrong.

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    And keep in mind that at no time, that I am aware of, has Obama ever made any type of statement or remarks such as Rev. Wright's. And his message since his 2004 break out speech has always been about unity.

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    And keep in mind that at no time, that I am aware of, has Obama ever made any type of statement or remarks such as Rev. Wright's. And his message since his 2004 break out speech has always been about unity.
    Of course, that couldn't be because he had political aspirations.

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    Yeah, I've heard about that too. But nothing has been proven he did anything illegal. The Chicago media has been investigating it for almost 2 years now. But I could be wrong.
    You hang on, Joe. I'm hopeful for you...

    You really think voters are going to care if it's been proven? This is the court of public opinion not a court of law.

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    Of course, that couldn't be because he had political aspirations.
    It could also be that he truly feels that way. I may dislike Bush and McCain's political beliefs but I don't question that they truly believe they are doing what they feel is best for the country.
    Of course he had political aspirations. Don't they all?

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    You hang on, Joe. I'm hopeful for you...

    You really think voters are going to care if it's been proven? This is the court of public opinion not a court of law.
    That is a correct statement. And yes, I am hopeful that there are better days to come for us all.

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    That is a correct statement. And yes, I am hopeful that there are better days to come for us all.
    Looks like the AP is on your side, Joe.

    The AP Style Guide on Defending Barack Obama

    That's right, the Associated Press steps up for Obama.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    You hang on, Joe. I'm hopeful for you...

    You really think voters are going to care if it's been proven? This is the court of public opinion not a court of law.



    what I mean't to say was this is right of the GOP playbook..

    see the smear vets...
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