The Spurs are Fine

[Brutalis]

Why are people apologizing and fukin crying in here tonight? Grab your sack and bring it, damn, what a bunch of wusses....

Yup.

I'm learning we don't deal with hard times very well anymore. Too many excuses.

ps- we fight everywhere else outside this thread, that dont change

[Brutalis]

You are posting on a Spurs board and you can't take some friendly ribbing? And then you go emo on me and won't answer a question.

Classic.

That there is a weaksauce reply. Not trying to get banned but it's clear not to only me either.

[peacemaker885]

Just finished watching this on DVR. Sad, frustrated all sorts of emotions. Thanks timvp. I needed this!

[SequSpur]

I think it was Jimcs50.

What a .

[timvp]

Maybe he's intimidated or doesn't want to get banned timvp? Seriously you have a bully demeanor being a man with power and presence of popularity here and he is aware of that.

I can't even remember the last time I banned someone. I'm not even sure I know how to ban someone. And I've never banned someone for anything said about me. In fact, I'm not sure I've ever banned anyone . . .

I'll read the rest later but pulling out the ban card was pretty weak.

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

Maybe he's intimidated or doesn't want to get banned timvp? Seriously you have a bully demeanor being a man with power and presence of popularity here and he is aware of that.

Not saying that's exactly why but what I am saying is you provoke a fight or an argument over what he believes he sees. And he's right, that's the thing. The kid is ing right and you shouldn't shave him over it just because of tonight, or cir stances, or your mood, or whatever.

We all have flaws as regulars here and at times they are called out. People called me out recently, I handled it alright I think and moved on. TPark got called out for his disowning the team. I can go on but that's my point. You are seldom wrong or take right of it. You have to take good with the bad, I learned that being here, and so did um, almost every other reg. So should you. Step back, re-read his replies and the convo and try to relate in a different way that he isn't trying to say he knows more or any homer stuff like we suck or anything. He's being legit and might feel threatened by your position.

Sometime I think we all need to relax and give more credit than we'd like. Although I'm sure that will never happen.

And you're just now commenting to me when I've directed several posts to you. And about something to someone else even. So what gives man? I lurk all over this forum and only post in mainly 3 areas, I don't understand why you ducked shoog earlier either.Just understand not only can people believe, they can vent and comment and flat out diss the Spurs for all the right reasons. They are playing sickly, and Pop is coaching flat in his rotations and starters.

I understand we have had injuries, new players, and all that. But so does everyone else. We get called out then we answer.

As I stated before you have shown as well as other this egotistical view that we are better than other fans or teams when we are not. This is not last year, this is not 4 les speaking. This is the 07-08 Spurs and I feel like it trickles down to the fans even, not just the franchise who needs to get with it for a change.

i havent seen ego tonight. just positive reinforcement. i think you're the one thats pissed about somethin else in yer life

[Ladyspur .]

Somebody get me a banstick!!!

[Holt's Cat]

Don't troll and don't get banned. RubADub isn't exactly at risk of that. Unless it is also posting under 'Princess Pimp.'

[Brutalis]

I can't even remember the last time I banned someone. I'm not even sure I know how to ban someone. And I've never banned someone for anything said about me. In fact, I'm not sure I've ever banned anyone . . .

I'll read the rest later but pulling out the ban card was pretty weak.

I don't know that. How am I supposed to know that? Have I ever directly spoken to you, and you me, more than 5 times in three years? No.. I don't know how you operate and pay little attention other than your game review threads I read.

You are pulling feathers on a bird that has billions of them. If this is how you always are in heated discussions, the only thing weak is you.

I'm not trying to pick a fight either. I'm trying to justify how you're reacting.

And speaking of cards, pulling that emo card was what is seriously weak. Might as well say he's ugly or his mom's fat LJ.

[DubMcDub]

How am I backtracking by asking you which specific parts of the post you disagree with? Throwing a blanket statement at an entire post and then refusing to answer follow up questions is rather arrogant.

Yeah, and either you are acting emo and now your feelings are hurt and you don't want to answer the question ... or you don't want to answer the question because you can't.

If me poking fun at the Mavs made you want to pick up your basketball and go home, that's fine. But staying here whining about a comment seven pages ago when you have a dozen posts since then is pretty lame.

You're backtracking because your natural inclination was to retort that I didn't know what I was talking about, and now you're trying to play it off like you were "just kidding."

And you continue to be dismissive by assuming I'm either a) deeply hurt or b) unable to respond. As much as your ever-growing ego would enjoy the prospect of me being greatly saddened by your words, or of me lacking the prowess to respond to your purportedly "objective" analysis, it's simply not the case.

I've continued to post in this thread because you've continued to respond to me. I enjoy the dialogue (contrary to what you have assumed, I'm certainly not listening to Good Charlotte and slitting my wrists as of yet).

[whottt]

Brutalis...



1994 - Rockets win 58 games championship.
1995 - Rockets win 47 games repeat.


1996 - Bulls win 72 games Championship.
1997 - Bulls win 69 games Repeat.


1998 Spurs - 35 something games repeat.
1990 Spurs won 55 games no repeat.


2000 Lakers - 67 games championship.
2001 Lakers - 56 games repeat

2003 - Spurs 60 games championship.
2004 Spurs - 57 wins...but they finished the season as the hottest team in the league. No repeat.


2005 Spurs - 58 wins championship
2006 Spurs - 63 wins for a team record. Beaten by the Mavs. No repeat.

2004 Pistons - 54 wins championship
2005 Pistons - 54 wins no championship.




100% of the championship teams since 1994 that won as many games or better in the regular season, failed to repeat.

Every single one of the teams that won fewer repeated. With the exception of the 04 Spurs...who finished the season as the hottest team in the league.



Don't tell me I don't know what I am talking about...history is clearly on my side on this.


You're the guy for every one of those teams saying they wouldn't repeat...you're the guy who doesn't know what he's talking about.


But go watch the DVD again..maybe that'll help.


Being a champion is different...and this is the first Spurs team that has actually played like it remembers it was the champion. Like it's gotten laid before...

[Brutalis]

i havent seen ego tonight. just positive reinforcement. i think you're the one thats pissed about somethin else in yer life

Trust me I am. (about pissed at something in life)

But I keep that there, and this here. Like when I play ball, I am an asshole. But, once we leave that court. I'm the best friend you could have.

Arrogance, ego's and positive reinforcement have a thin line. The bottom line, is however, facing the facts and dealing with the down time as well as the good times. And we as Spurs fans and on Spurstalk.com are weak as in the down times.

As professional and responsible, just flat out human our franchise runs. Down to earth... no bull .. just team.. etc etc etc... you'd think our fans had more nuts than we show sitting in a tree.

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

Trust me I am. (about pissed at something in life)

But I keep that there, and this here. Like when I play ball, I am an asshole. But, once we leave that court. I'm the best friend you could have.

Arrogance, ego's and positive reinforcement have a thin line. The bottom line, is however, facing the facts and dealing with the down time as well as the good times. And we as Spurs fans and on Spurstalk.com are weak as in the down times.

As professional and responsible, just flat out human our franchise runs. Down to earth... no bull .. just team.. etc etc etc... you'd think our fans had more nuts than we show sitting in a tree.

fair enough. as long as you can see why i have faith in the sporks

[duncan228]

Kori says she won't post until the Spurs win again. She's

Kori is saving it up for her epic 55,555 post.

[DubMcDub]

Brutalis...

Bulls:
1992- The Bulls win 67 games and the NBA championship.
1993 - Bulls win 57 games and repeat.

1994 - Rockets win 58 games championship.
1995 - Rockets win 47 games repeat.


1996 - Bulls win 72 games Championship.
1997 - Bulls win 69 games Repeat.


1998 Spurs - 35 something games repeat.
1990 Spurs won 55 games no repeat.


2000 Lakers - 67 games championship.
2001 Lakers - 56 games repeat

2003 - Spurs 60 games championship.
2004 Spurs - 57 wins...but they finished the season as the hottest team in the league. No repeat.


2005 Spurs - 58 wins championship
2006 Spurs - 63 wins for a team record. Beaten by the Mavs. No repeat.

2004 Pistons - 54 wins championship
2005 Pistons - 54 wins no championship.




100% of the championship teams since 1992 that won as many games or better in the regular season, failed to repeat.

Every single one of the teams that won fewer repeated. With the exception of the 04 Spurs...who finished the season as the hottest team in the league.



Don't tell me I don't know what I am talking about...history is clearly on my side on this.


You're the guy for every one of those teams saying they wouldn't repeat...you're the guy who doesn't know what he's talking about.


But go watch the DVD again..maybe that'll help.


Being a champion is different...and this is the first team that has actually played like it remembers it was the champion.

You left out 2002, when the Lakers won more games than 2001 and did, in fact, win another le.

Also, your analysis is weak because it ignores the fact that this year is unlike any other in terms of the parity of the conference.

[Admidave50]

some Spurs fans should be ashamed to abandon the ship that quickly!

[Brutalis]

100% of the championship teams since 1992 that won as many games or better in the regular season, failed to repeat.

Every single one of the teams that won fewer repeated. With the exception of the 04 Spurs...who finished the season as the hottest team in the league.



Don't tell me I don't know what I am talking about...history is clearly on my side on this.


You're the guy for everyone of those teams saying they wouldn't repeat...you're the guy who doesn't know what he's talking about.


But go watch the DVD again..maybe that'll help.

What point of mine are you countering to begin with?

last year, much less 20 years ago fellow Spurs brother. Times, trials and defeats and wins and blah blah are different each year.

All I know to say is you went on about the game was not a must win, Pop didn't care to lose it. And all that crap. Who are you kidding with that? And what care do I have about your history lessons when it relates nothing to your own statements I reply to? Enjoy the damn dvd.

[Admidave50]

you should bump the game thread in a few months, most of the people here have gone insane!!

[whottt]

You left out 2002, when the Lakers won more games than 2001 and did, in fact, win another le.

Was a 3 peat team. Not a repeat.

We'll look at the 3 peaters when it's time to 3 peat.

I also left out a 3rd bulls team that won less and 3 peated.

Also, your analysis is weak because it ignores the fact that this year is unlike any other in terms of the parity of the conference.

My analysis is nearly 90% dead on going back nearly 15 years.

You OTOH...don't even know what it's like to win a championship, so how could you possibly have my perspective on it...


I've got the perspective, I've got the facts...you OTOH, have absolutely nothing except specualtion.

[Brutalis]

fair enough. as long as you can see why i have faith in the sporks

I have the same faith but it does not go protected. Just mean I will provoke any crap my team is doing and be aware of it. Not saying you do this- but I don't reach for my blanket when we lose. I figure out why, vent on it and hope we come out on top next time. Trying to face the cereal in my bowl is all.

[whottt]

What point of mine are you countering to begin with?

last year, much less 20 years ago fellow Spurs brother. Times, trials and defeats and wins and blah blah are different each year.

All I know to say is you went on about the game was not a must win, Pop didn't care to lose it. And all that crap. Who are you kidding with that? And what care do I have about your history lessons when it relates nothing to your own statements I reply to? Enjoy the damn dvd.

You're melting down over the regular season.


Season isn't over...it hasn't even begun.


One of us is right...and one of us is overeacting.

[Brutalis]

You left out 2002, when the Lakers won more games than 2001 and did, in fact, win another le.

Also, your analysis is weak because it ignores the fact that this year is unlike any other in terms of the parity of the conference.

Wow I didn't even catch that great point and one fatal error by whottt.

[DubMcDub]

Was a 3 peat team. Not a repeat.

We'll look at the 3 peaters when it's time to 3 peat.






My analysis is nearly 90% dead on going back over 15 years.

You OTOH...don't even know what it's like to win a championship, so how could you possibly have my perspective on it...

I've got the perspective, I've got the facts...you OTOH, have abosolutely nothing except specualtion.

That's just so ing unreal. Really. I'm impressed.

Tell me, do you know what it's like to win a championship? Which position did you play? Which le teams were you on? Oh my god, were you David Robinson?!?!!?!?

Or were you just talking about watching it on TV? Believe it or not, I did that too. Guess we're in the same boat after all.

[timvp]

Not saying that's exactly why but what I am saying is you provoke a fight or an argument over what he believes he sees. And he's right, that's the thing. The kid is ing right and you shouldn't shave him over it just because of tonight, or cir stances, or your mood, or whatever.

If you think he's right, that's fine. I agree with what he said, actually. Fans of basketball have a right and the wherewithal to give their opinion on which teams can win championships.

So if I agree with him and you agree with him, that means you agree with me. I seriously don't understand what you are getting at. I ribbed him for being a Mav Fan and he got upset. I can understand that. I'll apologize if that's what he wants.

But I don't really understand what you are saying he's right about ... because I've already said he's right.

We all have flaws as regulars here and at times they are called out. People called me out recently, I handled it alright I think and moved on. TPark got called out for his disowning the team. I can go on but that's my point. You are seldom wrong or take right of it. You have to take good with the bad, I learned that being here, and so did um, almost every other reg. So should you. Step back, re-read his replies and the convo and try to relate in a different way that he isn't trying to say he knows more or any homer stuff like we suck or anything. He's being legit and might feel threatened by your position.

I don't mind being wrong. I don't mind being flamed. If I minded being flamed, I would have dusted off my ban button and banned whottt a long time ago. That guy flames me every chance he has.

Regarding the Mav Fan, the only thing that got him pizzed was me calling him a Mav Fan in a manner that he perceived as facetious. But then again, if every Spurs fan got flamed for flaming a Mav Fan, SpursTalk would be an empty place.

And you're just now commenting to me when I've directed several posts to you. And about something to someone else even. So what gives man?

I wasn't sure what angle you were coming from. You agreeing with something I've already agreed with shouldn't really warrant a response from me.

As I stated before you have shown as well as other this egotistical view that we are better than other fans or teams when we are not. This is not last year, this is not 4 les speaking. This is the 07-08 Spurs and I feel like it trickles down to the fans even, not just the franchise who needs to get with it for a change.

The beautiful thing about the NBA is we'll see if I was being too positive about the Spurs at the moment. If they continue swirling and end up crashing and burning, then yeah I was wrong. I'll admit it. I just honestly don't see it that way. If others do, that's fine. If others think the Spurs could possibly win it but don't agree with my outlook, that's also fine.

We'll find out in the end what this four-game losing streak truly meant.

[Findog]

Not to defend whottt but I'd say Spurs fans have the advantage in trying to predict which Spurs teams are contenders and which Sprus teams will be exposed in the playoffs. As Spurs fans, we've seen many examples of both.

Saying Spurs fans aren't qualified to offer up their opinion on this subject based on four successes and many more failures is a bit arrogant on your part. We've all seen this movie many times ... we are just trying to figure out how this one will end.

Spurs fans are typically more knowledgeable about the Spurs than fans of other teams, because they watch all the games and follow them more closely, just as Mavs fans tend to have more insight into the Mavs than other fans, etc...but you don't have to have a certain team affiliation to understand what works in the playoffs and what doesn't. The Spurs will probably get in to the playoffs and from there they have as good a chance as anybody.

I would defer to you or any other hardcore Spurs fan because you've seen about 45 more Spurs games this year than I have, but you don't necessarily have some sort of insight about what it takes to win a le than a fan of another team.